Re: [Mailman-Users] Microsoft Outlook and footer/signatureattachments

2009-09-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: There should be an option(s?) for the membership list to be entirely list-admin controlled, (the Hotel California option[1][2]), in which case the irrelevant headers should be suppressed. Definitely. Although I don't have tests for it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Microsoft Outlook and footer/signatureattachments

2009-09-12 Thread Christopher C. Wright
Mark Sapiro wrote: If I understand correctly the requirement 'ordained', Mailman is already doing exactly that. The only way to keep the HTML part 'intact' while adding the footer is to add the footer as a separate MIME part which is what Mailman does. If this then results in a message which

Re: [Mailman-Users] Microsoft Outlook and footer/signatureattachments

2009-09-12 Thread LuKreme
Oh I know WHY it was done. However, being a [CENSORED] I would have said Get a real client or report the bug to the mothership and hope [HAHAHA CACKLE CACKLE SNORT] they get around to fixing it. You can't give those bastards an inch. -- Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2009, at 15:48, Barry

Re: [Mailman-Users] Microsoft Outlook and footer/signatureattachments

2009-09-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christopher C. Wright wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9. It is clear that options 3 and 4 don't work for you. If neither option 1 or 2 works either, you can see the note at the bottom which will lead you to a patch which we don't recommend for the reasons

Re: [Mailman-Users] Microsoft Outlook and footer/signatureattachments

2009-09-11 Thread Kirke Johnson
I am fighting a variation of this right now. We have several automated lists from which members can not remove themselves. Due to complaints about subscription headers that would not work, I removed them. The only way I found to do that was by turning off include_rfc2369_headers.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Microsoft Outlook and footer/signatureattachments

2009-09-11 Thread LuKreme
On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:44, Kirke Johnson kjohn...@pcc.edu wrote: Due to complaints about subscription headers that would not work, I removed them. The only way I found to do that was by turning off include_rfc2369_headers. I would think the proper solution is to fix them, not remove them.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Microsoft Outlook and footer/signatureattachments

2009-09-11 Thread Kirke Johnson
The headers would work, but the subscription would automatically be restored the next night. Folks find that frustrating and would rather not be reminded about it. There will always be a percentage who do not want to receive information that is considered critical to the organization providing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Microsoft Outlook and footer/signatureattachments

2009-09-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
LuKreme writes: On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:44, Kirke Johnson kjohn...@pcc.edu wrote: Due to complaints about subscription headers that would not work, I removed them. The only way I found to do that was by turning off include_rfc2369_headers. I would think the proper solution is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Microsoft Outlook and footer/signatureattachments

2009-09-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kirke Johnson wrote: I am fighting a variation of this right now. We have several automated lists from which members can not remove themselves. Due to complaints about subscription headers that would not work, I removed them. The only way I found to do that was by turning off

Re: [Mailman-Users] Microsoft Outlook and footer/signatureattachments

2009-09-11 Thread LuKreme
On 11-Sep-2009, at 11:41, Mark Sapiro wrote: Yes, that's the way it works, but maybe it shouldn't. What do people think about changing this? Well, I'd be in favor of forcing the rfc2369 headers to always be there, myself. I hate it when lists don't have them. I think the solution to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Microsoft Outlook and footer/signatureattachments

2009-09-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:16 PM, LuKreme wrote: On 11-Sep-2009, at 11:41, Mark Sapiro wrote: Yes, that's the way it works, but maybe it shouldn't. What do people think about changing this? Well, I'd be in favor of forcing the rfc2369 headers to always be there, myself. I hate it when lists

Re: [Mailman-Users] Microsoft Outlook and footer/signatureattachments

2009-09-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Kirke Johnson wrote: I am fighting a variation of this right now. We have several automated lists from which members can not remove themselves. Due to complaints about subscription headers that would not work, I removed them. The only way I found to do that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Microsoft Outlook and footer/signatureattachments

2009-09-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Kirke Johnson wrote: The only way I found to do that was by turning off include_rfc2369_headers. Maybe we just need a new option to control the List-Subscribe and List- Unsubscribe headers? I think that if