Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 53, Issue 24

2008-07-10 Thread Mak Dara
Ok, thank everybody for all experience . --- On Wed, 7/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 53, Issue 24 To: mailman-users@python.org Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:32 PM Send Mailman-Users mailing list

[Mailman-Users] Easier list administration

2008-07-10 Thread Walter Leibbrandt
Hi, This is just to introduce a little (Mailman-related) project of mine to all list administrators that might find it useful. I hope that it is not inappropriate for me to be posting it on this list, but here goes. After recently being made administrator of 19-odd mailing lists I've

[Mailman-Users] Hard drive is full

2008-07-10 Thread Maickel Pandie
Hi... It's been 3 weeks since I launched my mailing list server using Mailman + Postfix, 2 days ago my server stoped sending mail, when I search the problem from log it telling me that the problem is disk drive is full. When I restart my server I can't login into server because there are no free

[Mailman-Users] Specific Users Members Mail Not Going Out

2008-07-10 Thread McNutt Jr, William R
I have an issue I am having difficulty tracking down. I have two users, one of whom is my boss, whose messages are not showing up on the list. Instead, I get an uncaught bounce notification with the message attached in my mailman_admin box. The error text reads: The attached message was

Re: [Mailman-Users] Specific Users Members Mail Not Going Out

2008-07-10 Thread Terri Oda
On 10-Jul-08, at 12:36 PM, McNutt Jr, William R wrote: I have two users, one of whom is my boss, whose messages are not showing up on the list. Instead, I get an uncaught bounce notification with the message attached in my mailman_admin box. Are they, perchance, sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Mailman-Users] Specific Users Members Mail Not Going Out

2008-07-10 Thread Dragon
McNutt Jr, William R wrote: I have an issue I am having difficulty tracking down. I have two users, one of whom is my boss, whose messages are not showing up on the list. Instead, I get an uncaught bounce notification with the message attached in my mailman_admin box. The error text reads:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hard drive is full

2008-07-10 Thread Simon
On 7/10/2008 4:31 AM, Maickel Pandie wrote: It's been 3 weeks since I launched my mailing list server using Mailman + Postfix, 2 days ago my server stoped sending mail, when I search the problem from log it telling me that the problem is disk drive is full. When I restart my server I can't login

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Brad Knowles
Cyndi Norwitz wrote: P.S. I still don't understand why they insist on an invite model. Because all it takes is one listowner that doesn't understand and does a mass subscribe of a number of people, some of those people complain and then the entire ISP gets blacklisted. And some blacklists

Re: [Mailman-Users] Using Mailman at School

2008-07-10 Thread Brad Knowles
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EXAMPLE From those 1000 address I tag/mark all the 8th grade parents addresses and call that list Grade08. Then I tag/mark some more addresses as 12th grade parents and call that list Grade12, and so on. We could make a third list called Soccer Team and tag some

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hard drive is full

2008-07-10 Thread Brad Knowles
Maickel Pandie wrote: First time this server work, it only consume 6 GB. Now my 40 GB hard drive is full. For a server, especially a mailing list server, 40GB is ... very small. Most servers I know of would probably have hundreds of GB available for the OS, the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Michael Welch
Hi friends. I think that bulk adding is a dangerous thing to allow, from the host's viewpoint at a minimum. Who's to say what unscrupulous a-holes are ready to take advantage of that ability. That said, my own need calls for the ability to do just that. We are qualifying individual supporters

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Cyndi Norwitz
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:20:01 -0500 From: Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cyndi Norwitz wrote: P.S. I still don't understand why they insist on an invite model. Because all it takes is one listowner that doesn't understand and does a mass subscribe of a number of people,

[Mailman-Users] Strange problem with one mailman list

2008-07-10 Thread Brian Carpenter
Hi Everyone: I am seeing a strange problem with a particular list on our server. We run mailman on a cpanel box in a virtual host environment. The MTA is exim. We are having a problem with one list on this server. It seems whenever the list sends out a welcome message or an unsubscribe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Brad Knowles
Michael Welch wrote: That said, my own need calls for the ability to do just that. And I've used it myself on numerous occasions. This is why I haven't made too much noise about stripping this function, or even turning it off by default. I trust myself to use it, and I'm willing to trust

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Brad Knowles
Cyndi Norwitz wrote: I thought Mark's suggestion of limiting direct adds to a small number per time unit, or my ISP's suggestion of being able to give particular lists or listowners the ability to do direct adds (overruled by his superviser it seems), to be quite reasonable. Agreed. Of

[Mailman-Users] Stumped on a archive move

2008-07-10 Thread Melinda Gilmore
Ok, I move an example list and the archive called zos to a new mailman server. When I copy the archive over zos.mbox and then try to run the bin/arch, I am getting an error of: Cannot open mbox file archives/private/zos.mbox/zos.mbox: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Michael Welch
Right, Brad. Did you note that on our subscribe page, the default radio box is subscribe and not invite? I do not know if that is a site admin setting, but it seems to me it should be the opposite. Brad Knowles wrote at 11:58 AM 7/10/2008: Michael Welch wrote: That said, my own need calls

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Dragon
Cyndi Norwitz wrote: I really really hate having my ability to effectively run lists (or websites or chats) curtailed because of the huge numbers of greedy jerks out there. I realize it can't be ignored but I am hoping there could be some middle ground. End original message.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Larry Stone
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Brad Knowles wrote: Michael Welch wrote: That said, my own need calls for the ability to do just that. And I've used it myself on numerous occasions. This is why I haven't made too much noise about stripping this function, or even turning it off by default. I trust

Re: [Mailman-Users] Stumped on a archive move

2008-07-10 Thread Terri Oda
On 10-Jul-08, at 3:05 PM, Melinda Gilmore wrote: Ok, I move an example list and the archive called zos to a new mailman server. When I copy the archive over zos.mbox and then try to run the bin/arch, I am getting an error of: Cannot open mbox file archives/private/zos.mbox/zos.mbox:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Stumped on a archive move

2008-07-10 Thread Brad Knowles
Melinda Gilmore wrote: Ok, I move an example list and the archive called zos to a new mailman server. When I copy the archive over zos.mbox and then try to run the bin/arch, I am getting an error of: Cannot open mbox file archives/private/zos.mbox/zos.mbox: [Errno 2] No such file or

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Brad Knowles
Larry Stone wrote: Brad, I'm glad you added that. But it raises an interesting topic of discussion which is why is e-mail held to a different standard than other means of communication. This is a lot like another case where there is only harm perceived when someone claims that they've been

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Hank van Cleef
The esteemed Brad Knowles has said: Personally, I would be happy to see the mass subscribe feature go away completely from the web interface of Mailman, or at least disabled by default. But then I've been fighting spam since the time I was the Sr. Internet Mail Administrator at AOL in

[Mailman-Users] Moderation in mass subscribes, and moderator member list view

2008-07-10 Thread Michael Welch
Hi friends. A couple of questions. I do not have shell access, only access through the admin page automatically set up by my host. On one of my lists, I want to put some folks, but not others, on moderation as I invite them. Is there some coding I can add to the end of their entry in the mass

[Mailman-Users] Export list of subscribers?

2008-07-10 Thread Bill Honneus (honneus)
Hi, Is there a way to export the current list of subscribers of a mailing list to a text file, either through the web administrator interface or through a command line option? Much appreciated! Thanks, Bill -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread hone+mailman
--On Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:42 PM -0600 Hank van Cleef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two mail subscription ports (-join, -subscribe) are disabled. How can the Mass Subscriptions options for all new lists be changed to only Invite? I'd like to eliminate the Subscribe option. I looked in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Export list of subscribers?

2008-07-10 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hi there, Bill Honneus (honneus): Hi, Is there a way to export the current list of subscribers of a mailing list to a text file, either through the web administrator interface or through a command line option? Command line will work best. Take a look at bin/list_members HTH -- Zbigniew

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Brad Knowles
Hank van Cleef wrote: I am going to go on record as very strongly OPPOSED to removal of the mass subscribe feature. We used it as the only method a new user can subscribe to the list. I know there are people who use it responsibly, which is why I don't advocate too strongly for its

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderation in mass subscribes, and moderator member list view

2008-07-10 Thread Brad Knowles
Michael Welch wrote: On one of my lists, I want to put some folks, but not others, on moderation as I invite them. Is there some coding I can add to the end of their entry in the mass subscribe box or something I am missing? There is no feature for this kind of thing in Mailman. You can

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Cyndi Norwitz
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:12:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] When someone applies for games, I use mass subscribe to add them. I think it's reasonable to conclude that by applying, they have an expectation that I'll use the address they've provided to send them

[Mailman-Users] Yum install of mailman on CentOS 5

2008-07-10 Thread Duncan Drury
I am trying to get mailman working via a yum install on CentOS 5, which is based on a RedHat rpm of mailman 2.1.9. I am unable to get the mailman cgi-bin scripts to run via Apache. Rather than running the scripts, Apache will send the listinfo file to my browser. I am able to get scripts in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Yum install of mailman on CentOS 5

2008-07-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
Duncan Drury wrote: I am trying to get mailman working via a yum install on CentOS 5, which is based on a RedHat rpm of mailman 2.1.9. I am unable to get the mailman cgi-bin scripts to run via Apache. Rather than running the scripts, Apache will send the listinfo file to my browser. What

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hard drive is full

2008-07-10 Thread Maickel Pandie
can I just use cleanarch from /var/lib/mailman/bin/cleanarch to delete all archive? 2008/7/11 Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maickel Pandie wrote: First time this server work, it only consume 6 GB. Now my 40 GB hard drive is full. For a server, especially a mailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hard drive is full

2008-07-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
Maickel Pandie wrote: Hi... It's been 3 weeks since I launched my mailing list server using Mailman + Postfix, 2 days ago my server stoped sending mail, when I search the problem from log it telling me that the problem is disk drive is full. When I restart my server I can't login into server

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can the Mass Subscriptions options for all new lists be changed to only Invite? I'd like to eliminate the Subscribe option. I looked in the Defaults.py file but did not find this. There are no settings for it nor for defaulting subscribe/invite to invite (although

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hard drive is full

2008-07-10 Thread Bill Christensen
At 1:19 PM -0400 7/10/08, Simon wrote: This doesn't help you much now, but this is why it is a good idea to keep anything that stores data (mail, temp directories, etc) on a separate partition from your / directory. On that note... is there anything to look out for with moving the