Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/29/2018 11:01 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: > > So for the general case where you might have gotten a message directly, > and through list A, and through list B, the result is random unless you > pay careful attention to how you got this particular copy of the message. If you received the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 2018-01-29 23:51, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: ... [ Reply-To ] should have a checkbox "same as my From address." Oh, great, now I'll rreecceeiivvee eevveerryytthhiinngg ttwwiiccee.. Dima -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sample of an Uncaught bounce notification

Mark Sapiro wrote: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:10:34 -0800 > On 01/12/2018 07:43 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Is this live sample of an Uncaught bounce notification useful to > > forward to developers to extend pattern matching. > > > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

[ Feh.  My biggest MUA<->ML nuisance is that I don't have a way to force replies to use the custom From address that I use for that mailing list.  Grant, sorry for the dup. ] On 1/30/2018 3:42 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > On 01/30/2018 03:11 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: >> There are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/30/2018 04:53 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: > > (that is, first_strip_reply_to=No, reply_goes_to_list=This List) > > Then if user A sends a message to the list without a Reply-To, replies > will go to the list, but if user B sends a message to the list with > "Reply-To: " replies will go to user

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/30/2018 05:53 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: [ Feh. My biggest MUA<->ML nuisance is that I don't have a way to force replies to use the custom From address that I use for that mailing list. I'm assuming that you're talking about the address that address that direct replies go to. My

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/30/2018 07:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: No. In the User A case messages from the list will have a Reply-To with the list address and replies (ignoring the pathological recent Thunderbird) will go to the list as you say, but in the User B case, messages from the list will have a Reply-To

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/30/2018 06:46 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > > I wonder if that hints at another option when munging the From: (i.e. > for DMARC reason).  Add the author (read: the original From:) as a > Reply-To and set the mailing list as From:.  That would provide the > original author

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 1/30/2018 6:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 01/30/2018 04:53 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: >> (that is, first_strip_reply_to=No, reply_goes_to_list=This List) >> >> Then if user A sends a message to the list without a Reply-To, replies >> will go to the list, but if user B sends a message to the list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/30/2018 02:33 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > ...  I'm also > not aware of much that Thunderbird can do. There is/was a plug-in for finding duplicates. It only works if you have both, if you already deleted the off-list copy that's no different from what you get with procmail.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/28/2018 09:40 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: OK. But I'm not saying "always." I'm saying that this would DTRT for me a very large proportion of the time, and for AOLers, about 100% of the time to 6 sigmas. I think that's a question of corpus. DTRT for you is different from DTRT for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sample of an Uncaught bounce notification

On 01/30/2018 07:48 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Mark Sapiro wrote: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:10:34 -0800 >> >> Thank you for your report. In this case, the message that is an >> "unrecognized bounce" is not an actual bounce of a list message. It is a >> message (looks like spam) > > Thanks Mark,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/26/2018 09:41 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: I was suggesting that one way to address that complaint would be for your mail client to detect the duplication and hide the duplicate copies. That sounds good in theory. But the practice that I'm exposed to doesn't work out well. I usually

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

To answer my own question, the one I got back from the list has the same message id that was sent out so a t least in this particular delivery chain nothing mangled it. In that case keeping a list of the N last delivered message ids and discarding ones already on the list shouldn't be too

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/30/2018 03:09 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: To answer my own question, the one I got back from the list has the same message id that was sent out so a t least in this particular delivery chain nothing mangled it. ;-) In that case keeping a list of the N last delivered message ids and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/30/2018 03:11 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: There are those who would consider it a problem if your mailing list is (mis:-)configured to add "Reply-To: " if there is no existing "Reply-To". I don't see how the MLM's behavior (good / bad / indifferent) has anything to do with this being a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/30/2018 01:43 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: Dep. on your MDA setup, list replies could go to list folder and off-list copies: to main inbox. In which case I think that thunderbird plug-in would not work either, even if you still have both on disk. That's the exact scenario (save for the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 1/30/2018 11:46 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > The more we discuss this and the longer that this thread goes on, > makes me think that this should be a user configurable action that the > MUA prompts the user for what they want to reply to in the ambiguous case. Even getting

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/29/2018 10:14 AM, Chip Davis wrote: I have a constant problem with well-meaning, but essentially ignorant, email users who, upon seeing a "Reply To:" field in their MUA's setup screen, dutifully fill it in with their email address. I too have seen people fill in the Reply-To in the MUA

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/30/2018 03:27 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > About the only thing that I can think to do would be to have my LDA > deliver a copy of the post from the mailing list to a script that would > search the Inbox for messages with the same Message-ID and then > retroactively remove

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/30/2018 03:04 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: Even getting agreement on what constitutes an ambiguous case might be tough. Agreement between people may be problematic. I think it will be quite simple to get people to define what they like and dislike. Which will likely differ from what other

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sample of an Uncaught bounce notification

Hi, Reference: > From: Mark Sapiro > Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:36:50 -0800 Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 01/30/2018 07:48 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > Mark Sapiro wrote: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:10:34 -0800 > >> > >> Thank you for your report. In this case, the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 1/30/2018 1:33 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > So I'm curious how the Reply-To: being set to the same thing as the > From: causes any problems here. There are those who would consider it a problem if your mailing list is (mis:-)configured to add "Reply-To: " if there is no existing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

And PPS my maildropex(7) has ''' Check if the Message-ID: header in the message is identical to the same header that was recently seen. Discard the message if it is, otherwise continue to filter the message: ‘reformail -D 8000 duplicate.cache‘ if ( $RETURNCODE == 0 )

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 1/30/2018 2:09 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > The only problem then is list mail will seldom land in the list > sub-folders as the direct replies should almost always come first and > land in inbox. That depends entirely on how you design your filters.  My Mailman filter looks for From, To, CC,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/30/2018 03:02 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: Does it ave the same Message-ID though? I suppose if I reply-both on this one, you'll have an easy way to check. Yes, they frequently do have the same Message-ID. About the only time they don't is if the MLM changes the Message-ID. (sending to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/30/2018 02:43 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > On 01/30/2018 03:02 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: >> Does it ave the same Message-ID though? I suppose if I reply-both on >> this one, you'll have an easy way to check. > > Yes, they frequently do have the same Message-ID.  About the