[Mailman-Users] Using mailman to take care of mailer-demons
Hi, At my company, we have a rather big amount of websites where users can subscribe to newsletters and more. Now we are having the problem that more than 3000 messages are coming back as mailer demons, and a person has to delete these e-mails automatically. All the e-mail addresses lies in an Oracle database. Question: Is it possible to set up Mailman to do this?: 1) When a mailer-demon is received for the Xth time, Mailman executes a program to delete the user from our Oracle database (and delete it from Mailmans database) 2) All e-mails not being mailer-demons, should still go through to the right person. That is, if an e-mail is being sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then mailer-demons should be filtered of, and normal e-mails should still be sent to the appropriate person. Thanks in advance. - Morten. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Member Passwords
Title: Member Passwords Hi! Is there a way that I can force to send the Monthly Reminder before the end of the month? I tried to change the server's date/time, nothing happened. :) I really just want to send all the member of our list their passwords. Thanks in advance. fritz www.mesedilla.com senior systems administrator summit interactive, inc. www.fhm.com.ph | www.femalenetwork.com | www.candymag.com --- +basta ikaw Lord
RE: [Mailman-Users] Member Passwords
Title: RE: [Mailman-Users] Member Passwords Oh I'm sorry. I think I sent the last message in html mode. I really am sorry folks. fritz www.mesedilla.com senior systems administrator summit interactive, inc. www.fhm.com.ph | www.femalenetwork.com | www.candymag.com --- +basta ikaw Lord -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 14 January 2002 11:22 PM To: Mailman Mailing List (E-mail) Subject: [Mailman-Users] Member Passwords Hi! Is there a way that I can force to send the Monthly Reminder before the end of the month? I tried to change the server's date/time, nothing happened. :) I really just want to send all the member of our list their passwords. Thanks in advance. fritz www.mesedilla.com senior systems administrator summit interactive, inc. www.fhm.com.ph | www.femalenetwork.com | www.candymag.com --- +basta ikaw Lord
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member Passwords
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way that I can force to send the Monthly Reminder before the end of the month? I tried to change the server's date/time, nothing happened. :) Monthly reminders run once am onth, based on your crontask. By default this is at 5AM on the first of each month: # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders. 0 5 1 * * /usr/bin/python -S /people/mailman/cron/mailpasswds Change that to whatever time and day you want (read 'man crontab'). -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] Member Passwords
Title: RE: [Mailman-Users] Member Passwords Oh thank you! Thank you! Thank you so much!!! You have helped me a lot! Thanks again. I think it is sending right now. I just set it to send right now. :) Thanks again!!! fritz www.mesedilla.com senior systems administrator summit interactive, inc. www.fhm.com.ph | www.femalenetwork.com | www.candymag.com --- +basta ikaw Lord -Original Message- From: Ashley M. Kirchner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 14 January 2002 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mailman Mailing List (E-mail) Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Member Passwords [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way that I can force to send the Monthly Reminder before the end of the month? I tried to change the server's date/time, nothing happened. :) Monthly reminders run once am onth, based on your crontask. By default this is at 5AM on the first of each month: # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders. 0 5 1 * * /usr/bin/python -S /people/mailman/cron/mailpasswds Change that to whatever time and day you want (read 'man crontab'). -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. . 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A.
RE: [Mailman-Users] Member Passwords
Title: RE: [Mailman-Users] Member Passwords Oh thank you! Thank you! Thank you so much!!! You have helped me a lot! Thanks again. I think it is sending right now. I just set it to send right now. :) Thanks again!!! fritz www.mesedilla.com senior systems administrator summit interactive, inc. www.fhm.com.ph | www.femalenetwork.com | www.candymag.com --- +basta ikaw Lord -Original Message- From: Ashley M. Kirchner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 14 January 2002 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mailman Mailing List (E-mail) Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Member Passwords [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way that I can force to send the Monthly Reminder before the end of the month? I tried to change the server's date/time, nothing happened. :) Monthly reminders run once am onth, based on your crontask. By default this is at 5AM on the first of each month: # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders. 0 5 1 * * /usr/bin/python -S /people/mailman/cron/mailpasswds Change that to whatever time and day you want (read 'man crontab'). -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. . 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A.
[Mailman-Users] Sync mailman passwords to .htaccess ?
Hi, Is there a way to syncronize mailman passwords with an .htaccess file ? I want the email and password to be used as a valid user thru a private site. -- Cheers, Vitor Domingos -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Designing a PHP interface
I know this isn't a PHP support forum, but I thought that some of you
might have some ideas for me. I'm working on a PHP front end to the
command line commands for Mailman. I've been working on this for quite a
while and can't seem to get it, must be missing something. I've tried
using the backtick, the system() and exec() functions and more, but this
just doesn't seem like it's working because the list is never created, I
haven't even gotten to the aliases part... What I'd like to do is run
the command:
/bin/su -c /home/mailman/bin/newlist $list_name $owner $passwd1 | grep
: | grep -v file:
I also need to send a \r (CR) after $passwd1 before the first grep and I
need to capture the output of it and append all that to a sendmail
aliases file. It would be nice to be able to remove the list as well it
involves running: /bin/su -c /home/mailman/bin/rmlist -a $list_name
and then removing the aliases (for that list) from the sendmail file.
PERL snippits that accomplish this are included below.
Thanks for your help! --Ben
The PERL code (for adding) is below:
sub createNewList {
if ($_[2] eq ) {
error($text{erArgs});
}
$listName = $_[0];
$adminEmail = $_[1];
$listPassword = $_[2];
#this command is a cludge, if they change the output it may
#mess the whole thing up
$commandLine = su -c '.$config{newlist_exec}. $listName
$adminEmail
$listPassword' .$config{exec_as_user}.| grep : | grep -v file:|;
#this will only add the newlist to mailman, we still need to
#add the aliases
open(RESULT, $commandLine ) || return 0;
print $text{txtAlias}.br\n;
while (RESULT) {
$line = $_;
$line =~ s/\/\/;
$line =~ s/\\n/\/;
$line =~ s/\n//;
system(echo \'$line\' $config{aliases_file} );
print $linebr;
}
close(RESULT);
system(su -c '$config{newaliases_command}' );
# system($config{newaliases_command});
}
The PERL code (for removing) is below:
sub deleteList {
if ($_[0] eq ) {
error($text{erListName});
}
$listName = $_[0];
$delArchives = $_[1];
if ($delArchives) {
$cmdLine = su -c '$config{rmlist_exec} -a $listName'
$config{exec_as_user};
} else {
$cmdLine = su -c '$config{rmlist_exec} $listName'
$config{exec_as_user};
}
open(OUTPUT, $cmdLine | )||error($text{erExecution});
while (OUTPUT) {
print $_br;
}
close(OUTPUT);
$cmdLine = cat $config{aliases_file} |grep -v $listName:| grep
-v
$listName-owner:|grep -v $listName-request:|grep -v $listName-admin:
$config{aliases_file};
#we need to backup our old alias file
system(cp $config{aliases_file} $config{aliases_file}.backup);
system($cmdLine);
system(su -c '$config{newaliases_command}'
$config{exec_as_user});
# system($config{newaliases_command});
print $text{txtBackup}.$config{aliases_file}.backup;
}
--
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[Mailman-Users] Errors from qrunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I get the following error messages, I don't have any idea where from: Found in log/error Jan 14 17:50:02 2002 qrunner(22552): Traceback (most recent call last): Jan 14 17:50:02 2002 qrunner(22552): File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 282, in ? Jan 14 17:50:02 2002 qrunner(22552): kids = main(lock) Jan 14 17:50:02 2002 qrunner(22552): File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 202, in main Jan 14 17:50:02 2002 qrunner(22552): os.unlink(root+'.db') Jan 14 17:50:02 2002 qrunner(22552): OSError : [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/spool/mailman/qfiles/d26ff2d4aa0d631a70a3a03a4662d24a07ecbab0.db' can anybody help gregor - -- Gregor Hlawacek Austria http://www.unileoben.ac.at/~m9327555/May the source be with you! This posting is 100% M$ free. Guaranteed by Tux, the friendly penguin. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Weitere Infos: siehe http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxDE2QACgkQer3X+/vN824uPACgkTtUYaulmOaCU4B6sdJ/LqZV sN8AnA2eVI6NNg5anWALHFAClCXAjvV7 =KO/9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Using mailman to take care of mailer-demons
So the problem is that you want a list of the email addresses that are undeliverable, so they can be removed from the database (either manually or via a script). Mailman does some of this. You can read the ~mailman/logs/bounce log file and see some of the mails that are bouncing (and why). Mailman handles these bounces automatically for you (based on the values that put in config for the list) - removing the bad addresses from Mailman's database. Other bounces (that come back in a non-standard format that Mailman can't interpret), will be posted to the admin for handling (assuming you have the list set so that only members or admin's can post). These messages are stored in ~mailman/data/.. You should be able to scan the bounce log file daily and pluck out email addresses that are bad. You should also be able to scan the held messages in ~mailman/data/.. and pluck out the ones that are bounces. The syntax of a script to do that on a daily basis is pretty simple. You could then feed that list of bad addresses into a script that flags them in your oracle database. Note: some folks have reported that Mailman drops certain bounces. In otherwords, they just disappear. I haven't seen that kind of behavior, but if it is true, then you will miss some of the bounces that come back, and you will do better to simply run a email checking program. There are several versions available. You feed the program a list of email addresses, and it gives you back a list of bad email addresses and good email addresses. The address checking program opens up a message envelope with a mail server and act as though it is going to drop off a piece of mail for the user in question. If the server okays it, then the program simply stops talking to the server and no message is sent. If the server rejects the address, the program marks the address as bad. Again no message is sent. You will get some false positives from this, but it does works for a majority of bad addresses. Hope this helps - Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Morten Brix Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Using mailman to take care of mailer-demons Hi, At my company, we have a rather big amount of websites where users can subscribe to newsletters and more. Now we are having the problem that more than 3000 messages are coming back as mailer demons, and a person has to delete these e-mails automatically. All the e-mail addresses lies in an Oracle database. Question: Is it possible to set up Mailman to do this?: 1) When a mailer-demon is received for the Xth time, Mailman executes a program to delete the user from our Oracle database (and delete it from Mailmans database) 2) All e-mails not being mailer-demons, should still go through to the right person. That is, if an e-mail is being sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then mailer-demons should be filtered of, and normal e-mails should still be sent to the appropriate person. Thanks in advance. - Morten. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Import Newsletter E-mails first time - How?
Hello, We have our customers e-mails in an Microsoft SQL database, and we would like to start a newsletter. Is there a way we can export the data from SQL to some type of file, and import it into a mailman list? What would be the format of the file and the command to do that? Thanks! Jim
[Mailman-Users] Tell if a recipient reads the newsletter?
Hello, We are hoping to start a newsletter to our customers. One of the questions that came up was could we determine if a customer actually READ the newsletter. Is there a way to put something in a newsletter so that it logs some type of "CUSTOMER READ NEWSLETTER" in a database through a web service, or something like that? Thanks! Jim
Re: [Mailman-Users] Just some simple operations
Check out the archives. A fellow just did this (and very cleverly) last week. He dumped the list members out to file, then deleted all the users, then added them back with the default being text... Of course this loses all password information. You can use dumpdb to list out the users, their passwords, and their preferences. The FAQ has some examples: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.007.htp Somewhere in the archives, I detailed the config file and what the numbers for the users options mean. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Christopher Mende [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Just some simple operations Can anyone help me figure out how to do something simple like get a dump on the commandline of 1) all users on a list 2) with regular subscription or 3) digest subscription? Or just a way to switch one property for all users? For example, if they're a digest member, switch their digest preference from mime to non-mime. I've gotten some great input on using the withlist binary... and have successfully used the examples given me and by the manpages. However, I have no idea what the db structure is, nor can I seem to find any decent documentation on it in order to do what I actually am attempting. My greenness with python doesn't help either. Currently when digests go out it sends it with every single post as a mime attachment! An email with 80 attachments. Ugh. So you can probably see why I want to switch. If figure if I can just dump all regular subscribers to a text file, and digestsubscribers, I'll just recreate the same list, and have the correct default digestoptions set before I mass-subscribe the digest guys. Just trying to figure out the easiest way of doing this, and not finding the support I need. If there is somewhere I can go, please let me know! :-) ~C -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Import Newsletter E-mails first time - How?
James Radke wrote: We have our customers e-mails in an Microsoft SQL database, and we would like to start a newsletter. Is there a way we can export the data from SQL to some type of file, and import it into a mailman list? What would be the format of the file and the command to do that? Well, ~mailman/bin/*_members [1] need a flat text file containing (only) email addresses. If you can get MSSQL to export that data for you (which I'm sure you can), you're set. [1] add_members remove_members sync_members -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I?
You are not using and of the features of Mailman, so you might want to use something like Majordomo instead. Majordomo does not explicitly use passwords for the users. It can be setup so that it is very easy to unsubscribe from. To send out Newsletters to your Mailman lists, simply send a message to the email address you setup when you created the list. You will need to have the right to post to the list. Look in the web-admin interface and you will see that posting can be restricted to admins only. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Al Sousa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] How do I? I need Mailman to do a few things and I am having trouble finding them. I have a subscriber list of 240,000 users that recieve mail everyday from my humor site. They don't post, they don't read archives, they don't do anything but get the mail. Whay I need this to do is the following. Enter subscribers: I fgured that out. An automated place to unsubscribe for people: I saw that but it seemed complicated for users. Is there something that they can do one step? like using a form to send to Mailman with just an email and an unsubscribe button. As above but for subscribing. How do I send out newsletters? Al www.wowfunny.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Tell if a recipient reads the newsletter?
James Radke wrote: We are hoping to start a newsletter to our customers. One of the questions that came up was could we determine if a customer actually READ the newsletter. Is there a way to put something in a newsletter so that it logs some type of CUSTOMER READ NEWSLETTER in a database through a web service, or something like that? That depends on how you want to do it really. One method I see being used quite often is when someone is sending HTML mail. You can embed a tag in the HTML that will refer back to a link on your site that will automatically update the DB. Problem is, you have to send out HTML. Another method is to make use of Return Receipts. You'd have to read up on that to understand how it works. For example, if I only wanted to know whether someone received my email, I would request a DSN (Delivery Status Notification). If I wanted to know if the recipient actually read (or at least displayed) the message, I would request a MDN (Message Disposition Notification). All of this (requesting) happens within the SMTP protocol, so you have to construct your messages as such - I'm not sure Mailman can do this right out of the box. I didn't think it does, but then I haven't played with 2.1 yet, so I can't tell you what it can or can't do. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: on behalf of
This is an exim specific question, it's possible that you already got an answer, but if not: 1) Ask the Exim mailing list. 2) Use Google: http://www.google.com and search for the answer: http://www.exim.org/pipermail/exim-users/Week-of-Mon-19981221/010607.html HtH - Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Rob Ruth To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:08 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: "on behalf of " I have installed Mailman using Exim as the MTA and messages come through @ list on behalf of sender. How can I change this to come through w/o the on behalf of and just as the sender? -Rob
[Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync
Hello, I am having difficulty keeping my news server and lists in sync. When a message is posted the the list, mailman updates the newsgroup just fine. However, if a post is made to the newsgroup, the list is not updated. There is an option in the admin pages of mailman that says this should happen for me: Should new posts to the newsgroup be sent to the mailing list? What am I doing wrong here? Thank you all for any help! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync
Since it is posting to the News server, the News server information must be correct. - What version of Mailman are you using? - Look in the log files ~mailman/logs/.. and tell us if you see any errors or warnings Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Terry Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:42 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync Hello, I am having difficulty keeping my news server and lists in sync. When a message is posted the the list, mailman updates the newsgroup just fine. However, if a post is made to the newsgroup, the list is not updated. There is an option in the admin pages of mailman that says this should happen for me: Should new posts to the newsgroup be sent to the mailing list? What am I doing wrong here? Thank you all for any help! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I?
For real digesting, you can integrate MonArch with mailman fairly easily (or so I'm told). Pipermail comes with Mailman, but is not too nifty in this modern age of Mime. My preference over archiving is to port the list to a local News server. You get pretty much the same effect as archiving and searching becomes much easier. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Michael Johnson (firewing) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I? On that note, can someone point me a link to some info that does a systematic comparison between Mailman and Majordomo. I've been having major digest issues with Mailman on one of my webhosts and am trying to evaluate my options. At 01:17 PM 1/14/2002 -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: You are not using and of the features of Mailman, so you might want to use something like Majordomo instead. Majordomo does not explicitly use passwords for the users. It can be setup so that it is very easy to unsubscribe from. To send out Newsletters to your Mailman lists, simply send a message to the email address you setup when you created the list. You will need to have the right to post to the list. Look in the web-admin interface and you will see that posting can be restricted to admins only. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Al Sousa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] How do I? I need Mailman to do a few things and I am having trouble finding them. I have a subscriber list of 240,000 users that recieve mail everyday from my humor site. They don't post, they don't read archives, they don't do anything but get the mail. Whay I need this to do is the following. Enter subscribers: I fgured that out. An automated place to unsubscribe for people: I saw that but it seemed complicated for users. Is there something that they can do one step? like using a form to send to Mailman with just an email and an unsubscribe button. As above but for subscribing. How do I send out newsletters? Al www.wowfunny.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I?
Actually, I was talking mostly about dispatching _mail_ to users who want to recieved daily digests (as opposed to web archive functionality.) At 03:45 PM 1/14/2002 -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: For real digesting, you can integrate MonArch with mailman fairly easily (or so I'm told). Pipermail comes with Mailman, but is not too nifty in this modern age of Mime. My preference over archiving is to port the list to a local News server. You get pretty much the same effect as archiving and searching becomes much easier. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Michael Johnson (firewing) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I? On that note, can someone point me a link to some info that does a systematic comparison between Mailman and Majordomo. I've been having major digest issues with Mailman on one of my webhosts and am trying to evaluate my options. At 01:17 PM 1/14/2002 -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: You are not using and of the features of Mailman, so you might want to use something like Majordomo instead. Majordomo does not explicitly use passwords for the users. It can be setup so that it is very easy to unsubscribe from. To send out Newsletters to your Mailman lists, simply send a message to the email address you setup when you created the list. You will need to have the right to post to the list. Look in the web-admin interface and you will see that posting can be restricted to admins only. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Al Sousa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] How do I? I need Mailman to do a few things and I am having trouble finding them. I have a subscriber list of 240,000 users that recieve mail everyday from my humor site. They don't post, they don't read archives, they don't do anything but get the mail. Whay I need this to do is the following. Enter subscribers: I fgured that out. An automated place to unsubscribe for people: I saw that but it seemed complicated for users. Is there something that they can do one step? like using a form to send to Mailman with just an email and an unsubscribe button. As above but for subscribing. How do I send out newsletters? Al www.wowfunny.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] RH 7.2 RPM Install Question on RH. - Access Forbiden to Web Page
Hello, I'm trying to set up mailman on a RH system, but get the following error 403: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /mailman/ on this server. Apache/1.3.22 Server at my.server.org Port 80 I assume that this is because the permissions aren't set as readable by the web, however I can't find where to change the permissions. I have a /home/mailman/ directory with appropriate permissions, but don't think this is it. I'm using mailman-2.0.8 I've followed README.REDHAT, and didn't get any errors on the install process. Please don't tell me to use the tarball. It isn't an option for the destination server. This is the relevant part of my permissions: [root@learningpartnership mailman]# cat /etc/passwd SNIP mailman:x:1048:1048:Mailman Mailinglist:/var/www:/bin/false [root@learningpartnership mailman]# cat /etc/group SNIP www:*:502:mailman,mike (are the numbers way wrong?) # ls /var/mailman/ -la total 64 drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 . drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 .. drwxrwsr-x8 root root 4096 Jan 14 16:02 Mailman drwxrwsr-x4 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:43 archives drwxrwsr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:57 bin drwxrwsr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 cgi-bin drwxr-sr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:43 cron drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:59 data drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:43 filters drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Dec 11 15:54 lists drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 16:47 locks drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:44 logs drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:43 mail drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Dec 11 15:54 qfiles drwxrwsr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 scripts drwxrwsr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 templates [root@learningpartnership mailman]# ls /home/mailman/ -la total 8 drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 16:39 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 Jan 14 16:39 .. Any suggestions would be appreciated.. Mike ps. I do love the digest function, but if you reply to this please cc me. -- Mike Gifford, OpenConcept Consulting, http://www.openconcept.ca Supporting progressive organizations in online campaigns and tools. Feature: Women's Learning Partnership http://learningpartnership.org Truth is that which confirms what we already believe. Northrop Frye -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] RH 7.2 RPM Install Question on RH. - AccessForbiden to Web Page
Mike, What you need to do is modify your apache httpd.conf file to create a script alias for mailman, like such: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/ I believe there's a file called README.linux or redhat to that effect. You should also be able to find the info on the web. There are other entries you'll have to add for additional web functionality as well (ie: pipermail). My installation is running RH7.2 as well. ~C On 14 Jan 2002, Mike Gifford wrote: |Hello, | |I'm trying to set up mailman on a RH system, but get the following error |403: | |Forbidden |You don't have permission to access /mailman/ on this server. | |Apache/1.3.22 Server at my.server.org Port 80 | |I assume that this is because the permissions aren't set as readable by |the web, however I can't find where to change the permissions. I have a |/home/mailman/ directory with appropriate permissions, but don't think |this is it. | |I'm using mailman-2.0.8 | |I've followed README.REDHAT, and didn't get any errors on the install |process. | |Please don't tell me to use the tarball. It isn't an option for the |destination server. | |This is the relevant part of my permissions: |[root@learningpartnership mailman]# cat /etc/passwd |SNIP |mailman:x:1048:1048:Mailman Mailinglist:/var/www:/bin/false | |[root@learningpartnership mailman]# cat /etc/group |SNIP |www:*:502:mailman,mike | |(are the numbers way wrong?) | |# ls /var/mailman/ -la |total 64 |drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 . |drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 .. |drwxrwsr-x8 root root 4096 Jan 14 16:02 Mailman |drwxrwsr-x4 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:43 archives |drwxrwsr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:57 bin |drwxrwsr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 cgi-bin |drwxr-sr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:43 cron |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:59 data |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:43 filters |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Dec 11 15:54 lists |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 16:47 locks |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:44 logs |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:43 mail |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Dec 11 15:54 qfiles |drwxrwsr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 scripts |drwxrwsr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 templates | |[root@learningpartnership mailman]# ls /home/mailman/ -la |total 8 |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 16:39 . |drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 Jan 14 16:39 .. | |Any suggestions would be appreciated.. | |Mike | |ps. I do love the digest function, but if you reply to this please cc |me. | -- ---- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neubayern.net 719.210.6868 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Trouble using Mailman mailing lists
Sir, My Guru's website by the name of GurujiOfGurgaon.com is hosted on the iconic server. This is a purely devotional site without any commercial interests. This server has given me an option of creating mailing lists for the users. The mailing list is powered by Mailman. The trouble is that I can't figure out a way to create a link in the website, so that the users can directly register in the mailing list AT THEIR OWN WILL. Please explain the steps, giving the correct HTML code to incorporate in my site, to be able to use this option. Eagerly waiting for your reply. Yours sincerely, Bhanu Pratap Jain
[Mailman-Users] urgent
Hello, i'm using your mailman service.and i have some problems or let's call them questions. first i have hosted my domain with a new host who is using your mailing list. and i already have old e-mails and i need to import them to my new host but i don't know how? they are in text file 2nd question is: how can i send email to my people in the mailing list? also if i import or add the old list i had. can i add them to be member automatically so they can receive my new news? thank you -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] bsddb2 and SuSE 7.3 Pro
Hello, Has anyone been successful at getting Mailman 2.1a4 running under SuSE 7.3 Pro? I'm running into a Python problem. Most of the Mailman command line commands return: File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 37, in ? import bsddb3 as bsddb ImportError: No module named bsddb3 I've tried to download the bsddb3 module and install it into python but I get: gcc -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DHAVE_LARGEFILE_SUPPORT -O2 -mcpu=i48 6 -march=i486 -fPIC -I/usr/include/db3 -I/usr/include/python2.1 -c src/_db.c -o build/temp.linux-i686-2.1/_db.o src/_db.c: In function `newDBObject': src/_db.c:627: structure has no member named `app_private' src/_db.c: In function `DBEnv_set_lk_max_locks': src/_db.c:3010: structure has no member named `set_lk_max_locks' src/_db.c: In function `DBEnv_set_lk_max_lockers': src/_db.c:3027: structure has no member named `set_lk_max_lockers' src/_db.c: In function `DBEnv_set_lk_max_objects': src/_db.c:3044: structure has no member named `set_lk_max_objects' src/_db.c: In function `DBEnv_lock_stat': src/_db.c:3246: structure has no member named `st_maxlockers' src/_db.c:3247: structure has no member named `st_maxobjects' src/_db.c:3248: structure has no member named `st_nlocks' src/_db.c:3249: structure has no member named `st_maxnlocks' src/_db.c:3252: structure has no member named `st_nobjects' src/_db.c:3253: structure has no member named `st_maxnobjects' error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 Is there a bsddb module (or rpm) available for SuSE 7.3? Any help is greatly appreciated. Scott Cleary -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Mailman with AOLServer
Hi everybody, Has anyone managed to get Mailman to work with AOLServer? If so, are there any special issues that should be taken into consideration? E.g. which MTA should work best? Thanks, Jarkko -- Jarkko Laine[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tampere University of Technology Industrial Engineering and Management +358-(0)50-3588858 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] a few questions
ok, here it is, I spent some time on this so far so any help would be appreciated. It still looks to me like make doesn't finish. Thanks for your help! On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, C. Bensend wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Justin Zygmont wrote: this is a new install, straight from tar.gz and it still doesn't create the wrapper program and who knows what else. Time to see _exactly_ what's happening... Could you use 'script' to document the steps (and all output) you're taking from tarball, right up to where you do an 'ls -l' and don't see a 'wrapper'? Ie, the untarring, the build, and everything. Something isn't quite logical here. Benny ~~ A 'good' landing is one from which you can walk away. A 'great' landing is one after which they can use the plane again. --Rules of the Air, #8 Script started on Sat Jan 12 19:53:50 2002 [mailman]# finger mailman Login: mailman Name: (null) Directory: /home/mailmanShell: /bin/bash Never logged in. Mail last read Tue Jan 1 22:49 2002 (EST) No Plan. [mailman]# cat /etc/passwd |grep mailman mailman:x:650:650::/home/mailman:/bin/bash [mailman]# cat /etc/passwd |grep mailman mailman:x:650: [mailman]# whoami root [mailman]# ls mailman-2.0.8.tgz typescript [mailman]# chgrp mailman . [mailman]# chmod a+rx,g+ws . [mailman]# ls -la total 416 drwxrwsr-x2 mailman mailman 4096 Jan 12 19:53 . drwxr-xr-x 154 root root 4096 Jan 12 17:34 .. -rw-r--r--1 root root 412751 Dec 26 00:27 mailman-2.0.8.tgz -rw-r--r--1 root mailman 0 Jan 12 19:53 typescript [mailman]# cat /etc/sendmail.cf | grep DefaultUser O DefaultUser=mail:mail [mailman]# cat /etc/sendmail.cf | grep mail mail::12:mail mailnull:x:47: mailman:x:650: [mailman]# tar -xzvf mailman* mailman-2.0.8/ mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/ mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Archiver/ mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Archiver/Makefile.in mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Archiver/__init__.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Autoresponder.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncer.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Crypt.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Defaults.py.in mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Deliverer.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Digester.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/EncWord.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Errors.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/GatewayManager.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/ListAdmin.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/LockFile.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/MailList.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Mailbox.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Makefile.in mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Message.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Pending.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/SecurityManager.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Utils.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Version.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/__init__.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/aliases.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/htmlformat.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/mm_cfg.py.dist.in mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/versions.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/ mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/BouncerAPI.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/Caiwireless.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/Catchall.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/Compuserve.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/DSN.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/Exim.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/GroupWise.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/Makefile.in mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/Microsoft.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/Netscape.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/Postfix.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/Qmail.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/SMTP32.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/SimpleMatch.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/Smail.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/Yahoo.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Bouncers/__init__.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Cgi/ mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Cgi/Auth.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Cgi/Makefile.in mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Cgi/__init__.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Cgi/edithtml.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Cgi/handle_opts.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Cgi/options.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Cgi/private.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Cgi/roster.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Handlers/ mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Handlers/Acknowledge.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Handlers/AfterDelivery.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Handlers/Approve.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Handlers/Cleanse.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py mailman-2.0.8/Mailman/Handlers/Makefile.in
[Mailman-Users] Query
Dear Sir or Madam, I am a user of mailman 2.0.7 system. These a couple of days, I lost quite a lot of pending administrative requests. The server always notifies me there are some requests, however, while I log in, the system always says the pending requests lost due to some errors. What's the reason for this problem? Thanks a lot in advance. Best regards, Tao WU - Mr. Tao WU School of Chemical, Environmental and Mining Engineering The University of Nottingham University Park, Nottingham NG7 2RD United Kingdom Tel: (+44) 0115 84 66710 (Office) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync
Jon Carnes wrote: Since it is posting to the News server, the News server information must be correct. - What version of Mailman are you using? - Look in the log files ~mailman/logs/.. and tell us if you see any errors or warnings Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Terry Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:42 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync Hello, I am having difficulty keeping my news server and lists in sync. When a message is posted the the list, mailman updates the newsgroup just fine. However, if a post is made to the newsgroup, the list is not updated. There is an option in the admin pages of mailman that says this should happen for me: Should new posts to the newsgroup be sent to the mailing list? What am I doing wrong here? Thank you all for any help! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Thank you for your reply! I am using version 2.0.7. The error log shows nothing. The usenet log shows this every 5 minutes: Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test: [1..3] Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list test Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test watermark: 7 Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups: [1..3] Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list customers-ups Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups watermark: 3 However, there are new posts in the test newsgroup that did not get put on the test list. I have the information in mailman setup correctly, just verified. It may be working intermittently because the customers.ups group had a few posts that made it to the customers-ups list. I am not certain as to why that one worked however. It also seems as if it took a while for them to appear on the list as well. I hope this helps. Thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] RH 7.2 RPM Install Question on RH. - AccessForbiden to Web Page
Hello Christopher, Thanks for the quick reply. On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 17:07, Christopher Mende wrote: What you need to do is modify your apache httpd.conf file to create a script alias for mailman, like such: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/ I've added this: #Added by Mike for mailman ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/ Alias /pipermail/ /var/mailman/archives/public/ Directory /var/mailman/archives Options +FollowSymlinks /Directory It didn't say where to add it, I added it somewhere round the middle.. Outside of an if statement (I believe).. I'll try to move this and see if that works... Nope.. Moved it right above the Virtual VirtualHost MyIP Restarted the server (again) and still got the same error I believe there's a file called README.linux or redhat to that effect. I was able to find this.. /usr/share/doc/mailman-2.0.8/INSTALL You should also be able to find the info on the web. I could find some for installing mailman from a tarball, but not as an rpm. There are other entries you'll have to add for additional web functionality as well (ie: pipermail). My installation is running RH7.2 as well. Is there an rpm for pipermail? I couldn't find it, but hadn't noticed the Alias int he http.conf fragment above. However, mailman must be working as otherwise I'd get a 404 error rather than a 403 error.. Mike On 14 Jan 2002, Mike Gifford wrote: |Hello, | |I'm trying to set up mailman on a RH system, but get the following error |403: | |Forbidden |You don't have permission to access /mailman/ on this server. | |Apache/1.3.22 Server at my.server.org Port 80 | |I assume that this is because the permissions aren't set as readable by |the web, however I can't find where to change the permissions. I have a |/home/mailman/ directory with appropriate permissions, but don't think |this is it. | |I'm using mailman-2.0.8 | |I've followed README.REDHAT, and didn't get any errors on the install |process. | |Please don't tell me to use the tarball. It isn't an option for the |destination server. | |This is the relevant part of my permissions: |[root@learningpartnership mailman]# cat /etc/passwd |SNIP |mailman:x:1048:1048:Mailman Mailinglist:/var/www:/bin/false | |[root@learningpartnership mailman]# cat /etc/group |SNIP |www:*:502:mailman,mike | |(are the numbers way wrong?) | |# ls /var/mailman/ -la |total 64 |drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 . |drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 .. |drwxrwsr-x8 root root 4096 Jan 14 16:02 Mailman |drwxrwsr-x4 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:43 archives |drwxrwsr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:57 bin |drwxrwsr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 cgi-bin |drwxr-sr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:43 cron |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:59 data |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:43 filters |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Dec 11 15:54 lists |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 16:47 locks |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:44 logs |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 15:43 mail |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Dec 11 15:54 qfiles |drwxrwsr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 scripts |drwxrwsr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:43 templates | |[root@learningpartnership mailman]# ls /home/mailman/ -la |total 8 |drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Jan 14 16:39 . |drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 Jan 14 16:39 .. | |Any suggestions would be appreciated.. | |Mike | |ps. I do love the digest function, but if you reply to this please cc |me. | -- ---- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neubayern.net 719.210.6868 -- Mike Gifford, OpenConcept Consulting, http://www.openconcept.ca Supporting progressive organizations in online campaigns and tools. Feature: Women's Learning Partnership http://learningpartnership.org Truth is that which confirms what we already believe. Northrop Frye -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] RH 7.2 RPM Install Question on RH. - AccessForbiden to Web Page
Hello Christopher, I just noticed this page here: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/install-check.html Which gave me this error: /var/mailman]# bin/check_perms -f Traceback (innermost last): File bin/check_perms, line 50, in ? MAILMAN_GRPNAME = grp.getgrgid(MAILMAN_GID)[0] TypeError: illegal argument type for built-in operation I also went to: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/install-final.html Added this to http.conf: Exec /mailman/* /var/mailman/cgi-bin/* And got an error restarting the server.. Not sure if this helps track down the problem.. Mike -- Mike Gifford, OpenConcept Consulting, http://www.openconcept.ca Supporting progressive organizations in online campaigns and tools. Feature: Women's Learning Partnership http://learningpartnership.org Truth is that which confirms what we already believe. Northrop Frye -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync
Thank you for your reply! I am using version 2.0.7. The error log shows nothing. The usenet log shows this every 5 minutes: Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test: [1..3] Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list test Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test watermark: 7 Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups: [1..3] Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list customers-ups Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups watermark: 3 However, there are new posts in the test newsgroup that did not get put on the test list. I have the information in mailman setup correctly, just verified. It may be working intermittently because the customers.ups group had a few posts that made it to the customers-ups list. I am not certain as to why that one worked however. It also seems as if it took a while for them to appear on the list as well. I hope this helps. Thank you! Go to your webconfiguration and and say yes to Should Mailman perform a catchup on the newsgroup? under Mail-News and News-Mail gateways for test. That should reset your watermark for the list. Regards Henrik -- ( http://henrik.lewander.com ][ Husaberg FE 400 ) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ Aprilia RS 250 c[] Join the Aprilia RS webring at http://henrik.lewander.com/mc/aprilia/ring -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] .htaccess in pipermail
I selected, in the archive options, the file source for public archive. So now, i dont need the password to access the public archives. But i need to put some kind of authentication for users. I've got the usual .htpasswd files for that. But i dont know where can i put the .htpasswd file. In the mailman/archive/public ive got a link for /mailman/archive/private/mailinglist In httpd.conf i've got the pipermail/mailinglist alias for /mailman/archive/public/mailinglist. So, how can i change the user authentication or change the index.php for the archive ? thnkx -- Cumprimentos, Vitor Domingos -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync
Henrik Lewander wrote: Thank you for your reply! I am using version 2.0.7. The error log shows nothing. The usenet log shows this every 5 minutes: Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test: [1..3] Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list test Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test watermark: 7 Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups: [1..3] Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list customers-ups Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups watermark: 3 However, there are new posts in the test newsgroup that did not get put on the test list. I have the information in mailman setup correctly, just verified. It may be working intermittently because the customers.ups group had a few posts that made it to the customers-ups list. I am not certain as to why that one worked however. It also seems as if it took a while for them to appear on the list as well. I hope this helps. Thank you! Go to your webconfiguration and and say yes to Should Mailman perform a catchup on the newsgroup? under Mail-News and News-Mail gateways for test. That should reset your watermark for the list. Regards Henrik -- ( http://henrik.lewander.com ][ Husaberg FE 400 ) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ Aprilia RS 250 c[] Join the Aprilia RS webring at http://henrik.lewander.com/mc/aprilia/ring I get how that works now, thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] no require password for unsubscribe?
you can setup your lists so that folks can unsubscribe via email without a password. This is simple to do, but requires some setup. This setup is good for any number of email triggers that you might want to use with Mailman. - In the aliases file, add an entry for the unsubscribe email: volleyball-unsub: |/usr/local/sbin/v-unsub - In the /etc/smrsh directory: ln -s /usr/local/sbin/v-unsub v-unsub - In /usr/local/sbin create the script v-unsub: #!/bin/bash # script to unsubscribe user from volleyball list # Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Subject: unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNSUB=`grep -i Subject: - |head -1` for i in $UNSUB do # === Note: the below text is all on one line...=== echo $i |grep -q @ echo /home/mailman/bin/remove_members volleyball $i /home/mailman/ext/pending_removals # === Note: the above text is all on one line... === done chmod 0777 /home/mailman/ext/pending_removals - Make the script executable: chmod a+x /usr/local/sbin/v-unsub - Create the directory /home/mailman/ext mkdir /home/mailman/ext chmod 0777 /home/mailman/ext === Now if you send an email to volleyball-unsub it will execute the command v-unsub which will create a file with Mailman commands inside for the removal of users from the list volleyball. The created file pending_removals will look something like this: /home/mailman/bin/remove_members volleyball [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/mailman/bin/remove_members volleyball [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to execute this file as Mailman (or root), and then delete the file. One easy way to do this is to write another script and then setup that script to run out of cron. Scripts run out of the Mailman cron will be executed as the user mailman. - Write a script to run the file: pending_removals. Then delete the file. We will call the file: /home/mailman/bin/exec_mailman #!/bin/bash # execute a program as the user mailman, requires set-up in crontab /home/mailman/ext/pending_removals rm /home/mailman/ext/pending_removals - Change to the user Mailman, and edit the cron table: su mailman crontab -e # Crontable entry to auto-remove users 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /home/mailman/bin/exec_mailman === The script exec_mailman runs every 5 minutes, so users who email volleyball-unsub can expect to get a message back in about 5 minutes telling them that they are unsubscribed. You can use this scheme to automate any number of mailman functions via email triggers. You can also include password checking, and origin checking fairly easily. Jon Carnes BTW: you really should include an if [ -x /home/mailman/ext/pending_removals ] line in the script exec_mailman or your going to get a lot of errors indicating that the script doesn't exist... - Original Message - From: Terry Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] no require password for unsubscribe? Hrm, ya and you cant even specify a blank password when subscribing, that makes things harder. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unfortunately, i don't have an answer to that one yet...i'm looking though...and trying to do something similar. Most of the users on my list fall into the computer illiterate category too... Ron -Original Message- From: tdavis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 3:12 PM To: mailman-users Cc: tdavis Subject: FW: Re: [Mailman-Users] no require password for unsubscribe? Anyone have an answer for me here? Here is my original question: I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list without a password. How can I setup a list this way? Michael Johnson (firewing) wrote: If nothing else (security concerns aside), it'll alleviate confusion on subscribers' part who often get frustrated when they don't realize (or read the message they are sent or the information pages) that to unsub they need their password. At 04:44 PM 1/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list without a password. I understand this can be dangerous but this is a controlled list and my users are going to be sub-par as far as intelligence goes. I notice that when I do a mass subscribe, it auto-generates a password for every user, if I could make that blank somehow, that would rock. But would the password being blank mean there is no password? Thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] I don't really know what is right or wrong
Here is my update to everybody out there who has helped me. Everybody's info was very helpful! I have apache and postfix successfully installed on my FreeBSD 4.4 box. * I rm'd all files/directories pertaining to mailman from /home/mailman * I created /usr/local/src/mailman and de-arc'd the tar file to that directory * make clean didn't work, but I think that had something to do with me deleting a bunch of stuff in the first step. * I ran ./configure in /usr/local/src/mailman I found out that my mailman is GID=999 UID=1003 I found out that my postfix is GID=1003 UID=1002 I didn't enter any parameters into ./configure since I wasn't sure how it would handle them. * make install - went uneventfully * /home/mailman/bin/check_perms - No Problems So it appears that steps 1-3 in the INSTALL were successfully completed. I couldn't have done it without your help. I am still unsure about how to proceed with step 4. I am not incredibly familiar with Apache and I have absolutely no experience with cgi-bin yet. I have not yet any experience with cron/crontab either. To tell you the truth, I am afraid to proceed any further since I am afraid I might screw up and have to start all over again. I am not sure if I should just jump right in and modify my apache/httpd.conf script like Darren recommended last week. If anybody has suggestions about how I should continue, please let me know. I have saved all my e-mails from this list for a month back, so feel free to refer to others e-mails. On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Darren wrote: Hmm. I'll try to help. I just got mine set up on FreeBSD with Postfix. I am working with the maintainer of the ports right now because the ports have known issues. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you sound new to FreeBSD too. Since you are having trouble with the ./configure method, why don't you try installing it from ports? The hardest thing that you'll have to do is edit the Makefile. What mailer are you going to use? Do you have Apache installed yet? You need to have both of these running before you tackle Mailman. Darren - Original Message - From: Tim Legg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:54 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] I don't really know what is right or wrong Hello, I am trying to follow the instructions as best as I can, but I don't think I am understanding it correctly. Is there any better document other than the INSTALL document that comes with mailman-208? I honestly can't see myself installing mailman by using this document. Here are some questions/problems I came across anyway. In step 1, I was to create an installation directory which is referred to as $prefix. The next paragraph told me that /home/mailman is the default. I copied the tarball into this directory for installation and followed the remaining steps. In step 2 I ran ./configure The directory where my source code was present was /home/mailman/ and since that was the default, I didn't have to chenge that. make install worked perfectly but check_perms found 333 problems. At the end of step 3, I am told to run check_perms from a location other than the source directory. I thought the install directory and source directory were the same thing and that make install would just copy the files to where ever they need to be. But now I am told that they need to be different. Where was I supposed to save my soucre then? Is /home/mailman the right place, or did I screw up royally doing that? I honestly don't have any idea what is going on anymore. I am probably beyond any hope at this point, now that neither the FreeBSD ports version worked or my building it manually. Is this really meant to be run under FreeBSD? At how awkward this install is, I am beginning to have my doubts. I also don't know what all that set-group-id stuff is about or how python works. It took forever to find that there is no Run command for 'Run bin/check/perms' as written in Step 3. What I need is a step-by-step description telling me what I need to type in order to get this thing installed on a freshly installed version of FreeBSD. Is there anything that can be done? -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Stone Age
Nissley == Nissley Ron Nissley_Ron writes: Nissley Forgive me for being a bit sarcastic but doesn't Nissley preventing list members from unsubscribing reek of stone Nissley age practices? No matter how closely related the members Nissley are to the source of the mailing list...wether they work Nissley for a corporation that runs the list or any other Nissley situation for that matter, it should still be their Nissley prerogative to unsubscribe themselves if they so wish. But it is. By law, the method is universally accepted in Western societies. It's called a letter of resignation. :-/ The constraints that Mailman development should follow are (1) don't make life difficult for admins of systems the list admin doesn't run, and (2) make life easier for the list admin. Making life easier and more pleasant for list members, other things equal, is implied by (2). It is unfortunately often true that the list admin, for whatever reason, does not have the best interests of list members at heart. But this social issue is way beyond the scope of Mailman development. At least Mailman can help make the employment experience a little more pleasant in other ways. :-) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of TsukubaTennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can do free software business; ask what your business can do for free software. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] RH 7.2 RPM Install Question on RH. - AccessForbiden to Web Page
Hi Colin, On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 19:09, Colin Mackinlay wrote: In URL:news:local.mailman on Mon 14 Jan, Mike Gifford wrote: I'm trying to set up mailman on a RH system, but get the following error 403: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /mailman/ on this server. Isn't this because you have just accessed /mailman/ which does not specifiy the command you want to run. Wish it came up with some Hi you've accessed a mailman page message rather than a 403 What happens if you access /mailman/admin ? Then it worked! Thanks for your help. Thanks also for the many suggestions I've already gotten from others on this list. Mike -- Mike Gifford, OpenConcept Consulting, http://www.openconcept.ca Supporting progressive organizations in online campaigns and tools. Feature: Women's Learning Partnership http://learningpartnership.org Truth is that which confirms what we already believe. Northrop Frye -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member Passwords
At 8:27 -0700 1/14/02, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders. 0 5 1 * * /usr/bin/python -S /people/mailman/cron/mailpasswds Change that to whatever time and day you want (read 'man crontab'). And having changed the system clock by a fairly large amount, it would not hurt to stop and restart cron. It tends to confuse easily (I had the next run of an every-five-minute task off in 2030 once...it fired while the clock was set to sometime in 2030 [it logs; I saw] and seemingly kept the when do I do this next cache when the clock was corrected). It's quite possible that a system running anacron is harder to confuse. --John -- John Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Port Ludlow, WA, USA [it logs; I saw]...I wonder what the Latin is for it logs...vidi is easy enough for I saw but perhaps wrong in context: Miss Beaumet frightened me away from 9th/10th grade Latin] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Tell if a recipient reads the newsletter?
At 11:24 -0700 1/14/02, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Problem is, you have to send out HTML. Other problem is that not all users who receive the newsletter will let the HTML be interpreted. Since the population was customers, you can't control that (unless you have really eager customers). [Some of us, while processing SPAM for potential blocking, unplug the Ethernet cable...but that's unlikely in context.] And even THEN it doesn't prove the recipient read or even saw the mail...it might have been the 5 year old tossing out the boring stuff. If I wanted to know if the recipient actually read (or at least displayed) the message, I would request a MDN (Message Disposition Notification). All of this (requesting) happens within the SMTP protocol, so you have to construct your messages as such - I'm not sure Mailman can do this right out of the box. There are two kinds. Our mail servers don't honor the old kind (which merely indicated that the mail got somewhere [network] close to the recipient, anyhow). And I almost never OK the confirmation alert my MUA puts up for the new kind asking whether I want to send the receipt, and NEVER in a list. I would for personal email from friends, but my friends know better. --John -- John BaxterPort Ludlow, WA, USA I am NOT out of the office. I will respond if and when I get around to it. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Moving Mailman to another Machine
I need to move my lists to another machine. Can I simply copy over the /lists directory? Or is there another approved way to do this? I don't want to have to setup these 30 lists again and try to get subscriber lists, etc. Any help would be appreciated... we're moving from RedHat Linux to FreeBSD. Thanks in advance! - Tina -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Mail Not Being Sent - RH, Sendmail RPMs
Hello, I think that this might be another tricky RPM issue.. I can send mail with elm just fine, however when mailman tells me it is sending me a note (either from the web interface or the command line) it never gets to me. I've snipped most of these log files, but think there is likely relevant stuff here: # cat logs/error Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): Traceback (innermost last): Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): File /var/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 222, in ? Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): main() Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): File /var/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 203, in main Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): process_lists(lock) Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): File /var/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 148, in process_lists Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): conn, first, last = open_newsgroup(mlist) Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): File /var/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 75, in open_newsgroup Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): password=mm_cfg.NNTP_PASSWORD) Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): File /var/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py, line 111, in __init__ Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): self.sock.connect((self.host, self.port)) Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): socket . error : (111, 'Connection refused') # cat logs/post Jan 15 01:33:00 2002 (30758) post to mike from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1369, 1 failures # cat logs/smtp-failure Jan 15 01:34:01 2002 (30762) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore) Also, I'm also not sure if this is relevant, but this error is coming up and I still don't know how to fix it (other than ditch the RPM and go from the tarball) # bin/check_perms Traceback (innermost last): File bin/check_perms, line 50, in ? MAILMAN_GRPNAME = grp.getgrgid(MAILMAN_GID)[0] TypeError: illegal argument type for built-in operation I'm also still confused by this Also, as I'm using sendmail, I would have configured it from the tarball using: --with-mail-gid=mail However I don't have that option and so need to know how to set this with the rpm version. This might be the source of the problem, however I'm sure that Red Hat would have tried to put that default into their config as they ship with sendmail... Thanks again for your previous help.. It's working much better now.. Mike -- Mike Gifford, OpenConcept Consulting, http://www.openconcept.ca Supporting progressive organizations in online campaigns and tools. Feature: Women's Learning Partnership http://learningpartnership.org Truth is that which confirms what we already believe. Northrop Frye -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Upgrading from 2.0.5 to 2.0.8
I'm currently running Mailman 2.0.5 on a Solaris 8 box, and am planning on upgrading it to 2.0.8. I've noticed that there are patch files available on SourceForge for the patch command. After I apply the patch files and run the make and make install commands, will this erase the mailing list data and configuration directories? Or is there a provision in the make file for preserving these directories with mailing list data (e.g. data/, archives/private/, archives/public/, lists/, etc...)? Is there a FAQ on upgrading Mailman or a recommended plan for doing upgrades on a live installation that doesn't require the erasure of data? Thanks, Ash. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
