[Mailman-Users] User List
What is the URL that I can go to pull a complete list of all my subscribers and their password? I don't want any sort of nice cute warm and fuzzy graphical glitzed up thing, just a quick and dirty complete list. The list needs to be continuous, not paged. Any ideas? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: What is the URL that I can go to pull a complete list of all my subscribers and their password? I don't want any sort of nice cute warm and fuzzy graphical glitzed up thing, just a quick and dirty complete list. The list needs to be continuous, not paged. Any ideas? There is no URL. A list of subscribers: ./bin/list_members Their password, you'll have to dumb the db, or write your own script. -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
Does not work in a shared environment. PERMISSION DENIED every time!
BTW if any of the programmers are here can I ask why a .db format was used
and not the much simpler ASCII file? I mean this software is really great
at what it does. The problem is (like I have mentioned before) that it is
not very flexible at all and you have to go through a lot of screens and
steps to do things. I want to try to make this work on my server. Please
give me help getting all of the excessive overhead turned off that we don't
need.
Thanks
At 12:13 AM 5/16/2002 -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote:
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:04:52AM -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin
wrote:
What is the URL that I can go to pull a complete list of all my
subscribers and their password? I don't want any sort of nice cute warm
and fuzzy graphical glitzed up thing, just a quick and dirty complete
list. The list needs to be continuous, not paged. Any ideas?
You cannot get the passwords through the web or a direct command line tool.
You can however run ~mailman/bin/dumpdb
~mailman/lists/listname/config.{db|pck} and grep from there.
You can also trivially create a web page from it with a small script
Marc
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Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: What is the URL that I can go to pull a complete list of all my subscribers and their password? I don't want any sort of nice cute warm and fuzzy graphical glitzed up thing, just a quick and dirty complete list. The list needs to be continuous, not paged. Any ideas? i had the same need, and i asked my admin to run a cronjob for me that dumps all subscriber lists into a stats directory every 6 hours, so that i can do subscriber statistics on my own. but then i have shell access to the machine... (still, i'm not group mailman and can't read the config.db myself). -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:25:53AM -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: Does not work in a shared environment. PERMISSION DENIED every time! Uh? You gotta be part of the group mailman to have permissions on the db. BTW if any of the programmers are here can I ask why a .db format was used Because you don't want to a access a 10,000+ membership list linearly. That's programming 101. and not the much simpler ASCII file? I mean this software is really great at what it does. The problem is (like I have mentioned before) that it is not very flexible at all and you have to go through a lot of screens and steps to do things. I want to try to make this work on my server. Please Not really, you just try to do all the things it wasn't designed for and then complain that there isn't a front end of it. If you needed to list the membership, you could do it with ~mailman/bin/list_members. If you want a raw dump of the DB, you can get it with ~mailman/bin/dumpdb What else do you want? If you're missing the glue for what you want, you get to write it, the base tools are there. give me help getting all of the excessive overhead turned off that we don't need. Eh, don't complain to us if you need to shave the conners off your cube as you're hammering it into a round hole. It's open source, you can do that if you want, but you get to shave the said corners off, not us. (Well, Barry Zope.com take monetary bribes, but that's a different matter :-p) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:04:52AM -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote:
What is the URL that I can go to pull a complete list of all my
subscribers and their password? I don't want any sort of nice cute warm
and fuzzy graphical glitzed up thing, just a quick and dirty complete
list. The list needs to be continuous, not paged. Any ideas?
You cannot get the passwords through the web or a direct command line tool.
You can however run ~mailman/bin/dumpdb
~mailman/lists/listname/config.{db|pck} and grep from there.
You can also trivially create a web page from it with a small script
Marc
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[Mailman-Users] LISTS command
Two Issues with the LISTS command: 1) I am running in a shared environment. When I send LISTS to the listname-request address I get a listing of all lists on the server and NOT just the one(s) for that domain. My domain should not be allowed to advertise other webmasters' lets. In fact I DON'T WANT TO advertise other lists from my domain. Can this be patched somehow? 2) Why is it that I have to send a request to listname-request to get a listing of the mailing lists at a domain. What if I don't know the name of ANY lists at the domain? Shouldn't I (if i can I have not figured out how to do it) be able to send something to a master mailman address and get the lists? Seems pretty logical to me. I am old and slow so maybe I missed this one. Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] LISTS command
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:13:11AM -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: 1) I am running in a shared environment. When I send LISTS to the listname-request address I get a listing of all lists on the server and NOT just the one(s) for that domain. My domain should not be allowed to advertise other webmasters' lets. In fact I DON'T WANT TO advertise other lists from my domain. Can this be patched somehow? Everything can be patched, but mailman 2.0 doesn't handle virtual domains too well. mailman 2.1 is better in that respect, although you may still have to patch it a bit to do what you want (check first) 2) Why is it that I have to send a request to listname-request to get a listing of the mailing lists at a domain. What if I don't know the name of ANY lists at the domain? Shouldn't I (if i can I have not figured out how to do it) be able to send something to a master mailman address and get the lists? Seems pretty logical to me. I am old and slow so maybe I missed this one. Because people don't use mailman that way (eh, you must be used to me saying this by now). 1) Mailman was meant to be used primarily over the web, so you can get the list of lists there 2) You are usually pointed to a list and start with that one 3) Do you Email majordomo@randomhosts and ask for the list of lists? I don't... 4) most mailman 2.1 install will have a mailman master list, so you'll be able to Email mailman-request Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
At 12:35 AM 5/16/2002 -0700, you wrote: On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:25:53AM -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: Does not work in a shared environment. PERMISSION DENIED every time! Uh? You gotta be part of the group mailman to have permissions on the db. Damn this really sucks. I imagine this software just was not designed to run in a shared environment. BTW if any of the programmers are here can I ask why a .db format was used Because you don't want to a access a 10,000+ membership list linearly. That's programming 101. I serious doubt even a SMALL percent of lists have that many users. But never mind, thats not the point. and not the much simpler ASCII file? I mean this software is really great at what it does. The problem is (like I have mentioned before) that it is not very flexible at all and you have to go through a lot of screens and steps to do things. I want to try to make this work on my server. Please Not really, you just try to do all the things it wasn't designed for and then complain that there isn't a front end of it. You make my point. IT WASNT DESIGNED to be used but in a single manner. I know I am not the only one who has made request like these. I have gotten a lot of private responses asking that if I get a way to fix the problems to let them know as well. Also it is NOT complaining to ask for help or request knowledge. The fact that the program cannot do what a person asks does not mean that the person is complaining. The product really isnt as flexible as it could be. Thats not kicking anyone's cat it is simply stating a point of fact. If you needed to list the membership, you could do it with ~mailman/bin/list_members. If you want a raw dump of the DB, you can get it with ~mailman/bin/dumpdb What else do you want? If you're missing the glue for what you want, you get to write it, the base tools are there. give me help getting all of the excessive overhead turned off that we don't need. Eh, don't complain to us if you need to shave the conners off your cube as you're hammering it into a round hole. It's open source, you can do that if you want, but you get to shave the said corners off, not us. (Well, Barry Zope.com take monetary bribes, but that's a different matter :-p) Again it was a request. I ask not to remove corners but to not have to use all kinds of extraneous layers and levels of control freak features. I made a request to learn how to edit the standard message returned when the HELP command is issued because I dont use the web interface pages for my lists. I want to remove the reference to them. Thats a really simple request. I don't know what file to work with so I asked. I asked how to not have to force users to have passwords and all I get is people giving me crap about what you want your subscribers mass unsubscribed by other people. Obviously I do not consider that to be a risk worth going to all the hassle of passwords over. In my previous 8 years of running lists I had ZERO instances of this. Of course these lists were set up that one could only unsubscribe a given address from that address. Gee no need for passwords! Point is that every request made that does not have an already defined fix, etc seems to be treated as a complaint or an attack on someone. It would be better for the list as a whole if the folks who have nothing better to say than if you don't like it write the code yourself, Hey its not my problem, or quitcher bitchin would just move on to the next email and help with what they have a constructive solution for. Although I guess that is what makes some folks happy, just sitting there and pissing and moaning at everyone else. Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] One message disappeared from my sight.
Hello all, I don't understand this. We use Exim 3.33 and Maiman 2.10 A hour ago I saw this in our exim_mainlog: (Names (and one IP) are changed for privacy reasons) 2002-05-16 11:11:07 178HHv-0004KR-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=our.host.fh-giessen.de (Hello) [212.201.x.x] P=esmtp S=11664 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-05-16 11:11:07 178HHv-0004KR-00 = listname [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=list_director T=list_transport 2002-05-16 11:11:07 178HHv-0004KR-00 Completed This means that Exim has received a message for one of our lists and deliver it to the mailman transport. But then nothing happens ... Mailman seems to do nothing with this message. He don't infom the list administrator and he does no further posts for this message. The qfile directory is empty and the locks directory too. There is no according entry in the post logfile. Where is this message gone ? Is there a circumstance that mailman could receive a mail and discard it automatically ? This is the first time that I note a behaviour like this. Before using 2.10 we use 2.07 for a long time with no (known) problems. Also this list seems apart from these thing to work perfectly. The same is true for Mailman as a whole. The only thing I can imagine is that I had forget to do a new_list for this list (cause I had moved mailman to another directory). But this list don't use public archivs and it seems to work perfectly (apart from these thing). - oliver -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
Not really, you just try to do all the things it wasn't designed for and then complain that there isn't a front end of it. You make my point. IT WASNT DESIGNED to be used but in a single manner. I know I am not the only one who has made request like these. I have gotten a lot of private responses asking that if I get a way to fix the problems to let them know as well. Also it is NOT complaining to ask for help or request knowledge. The fact that the program cannot do what a person asks does not mean that the person is complaining. The product really isnt as flexible as it could be. Thats not kicking anyone's cat it is simply stating a point of fact. The most precious thing of open source software is that if you don't satisfied with the programme, you can customize the code yourself to meet you own needs, and then share you patches with other users over the world. The full source code is right on your hand! That's why Linux grow up so fast, and that's why tons of open source softwares being developed so well. Try to find out the solutions yourself, don't just sitting over there and keep complaining! Basically, open source software was not designed for idiots. If you are looking for something else that ready for use just by a few mouse clicks, get back to Microsoft! =P Lewis
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: At 12:35 AM 5/16/2002 -0700, you wrote: On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:25:53AM -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: Does not work in a shared environment. PERMISSION DENIED every time! Uh? You gotta be part of the group mailman to have permissions on the db. Damn this really sucks. I imagine this software just was not designed to run in a shared environment. permissions are a basic requirement for shared environments. you obviously don't know what you are talking about. the problem is: you talk loudly. please try to understand the basic principles of open-source software (and while you're at it, there is a good howto by eric raymond on how to ask intelligent questions, you might want to digest that too) before you post again to this list. then try to get a clue about the fact that your way to use mailing lists is not the only way in this solar system. more precisely, yours is in fact a very special, rather limited usage of mailing lists, which is why you don't understand what most of mailman's features are about. stop being obnoxious to people who donate software to you. get yourself out of bed, learn python and contribute. or buy some guy that will spoon-feed you the basics and whine to him. in the mean time, welcome to yet another killfile. jörn -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Help please?
Dear Mailman users, Thanks again to all those who answered me last time. I am still trying to install ver 2.0.10 on a virtual host. I have managed to get Mailman to create lists and send admin and welcome messages etc, the GUI works fine with my cgi, but I cannot get the program to receive email from aliases it creates. So if I create a list xyz, I can subscribe people ok, but I cannot send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and have Mailman redistribute it to the xyz list. I have had my ISP support update the test alias like this test:|/home/phil/philgraham-www/mailman/mail/wrapper post test test-admin: |/home/phil/philgraham-www/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test test-request:|/home/phil/philgraham-www/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test test-owner: test-admin and then run new aliases (I don't have root permissions so have to get support to do this). Still no luck. Any suggestions are much appreciated. Thanks. Best regards, Phil Apache 1.3.12 Linux Redhat Version 6.1 Perl5.6.0 PHP4.0.3 GCC2.7 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
On Thu, 2002-05-16 at 07:17, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: Damn this really sucks. I imagine this software just was not designed to run in a shared environment. please try to understand the basic principles of open-source software (and while you're at it, there is a good howto by eric raymond on how to ask intelligent questions, you might want to digest that too) before you post again to this list. Here is the ESR link. How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ http://leaf-project.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Looking for local help in Clearwater, Florida
I'm looking for someone local to come to my office and help me convert/import messages and archives into Mailman -- for pay ;-). At this point, I think some of the messages/archives are Majordomo, but I'm not sure what the rest are. If there is someone on the list who would be interested, please email me directly. Thanks. Woodie Sayles Webfoot.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] (727) 442-5770 (727) 442-3380 - fax Fast, friendly, professional web design and hosting. Visit our site at http://www.webfoot.net to see what we can do for you! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] HTML (formatted) email
Hello everyone! I'm pretty new to UNIX world, and may ask you silly questions, but please be patient. I'm just about ready to install the Mailman to a virtual server (renting) running on FreeBSD (Python 2.1.2). But before an installation, I'd like to know if it can handle a HTML (formatted) message (basically, It just contains a letterhead graphic on the top of a message) well. Again, all I want to do is sending 250 subscribers (read only, newsletter) a message with a graphic on the top (letterhead). It just like HTML messages you receive daily from Apple, Palm, you name it (by the way I'm sending it to my clients). I've tried it with Macjordomo on the EIMS server (MacOS9), but no luck. Subscribers received a message without a graphic (instead, bunch of codes). Anyone has any thought? Take good care, Hiro -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
The spirit of open source programming is that you are supposed to be a participant in the project development, contribute your patches to the project, give out your advice and suggestion (in a more politly way), save your time for expecting other people to feed you up and make use of the time for solution finding (with your own brian). Don't consider yourself as a damn customer in the open source world, and in fact, you didn't pay a single penny for mailman or any other open source software right? So what make you think that you have the right to yelling around just because of the software didn't fulfill all your needs? We all learn Linux from nothing, and we all learn Python from nothing. So my ASSUMPTION was not everyone had the coding abilities, but everyone should has the abilities and wills to LEARN! As I mentioned before, if you are seeking for spoon-feeding stuffs, Linux and Mailman are just not suit for you. Think about it man! Lewis AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: Lewis you ASS-U-ME one BIG thing. that everyone who uses a given item of software has coding abilities in the underlying programming language. And another thing requests for help and asking how to do something is NOT complaining. Jesus whats up with you high and mighties? Someone comes along and points out that this software is not perfect and you all take it as if your child had just been eaten by Jeffrey Dalhmer (however the hell you spell his name). MM appears to have been designed exactly for the idiots that you profess about. It is very inflexible in its use. You either use it the EXACT way the programmers determined that everyone would want to use it or to hell with you. Most of the users on this list have been rude at best in any request I have seen from anyone asking for help. The KINDEST response I have seen to anyone is a curt read the FAQ. At least if you do revert to that it would be half way decent to give the person asking the question some idea in the FAQ the information is covered. The most precious thing of open source software is that if you don't satisfied with the programme, you can customize the code yourself to meet you own needs, and then share you patches with other users over the world. The full source code is right on your hand! That's why Linux grow up so fast, and that's why tons of open source softwares being developed so well. Try to find out the solutions yourself, don't just sitting over there and keep complaining! Basically, open source software was not designed for idiots. If you are looking for something else that ready for use just by a few mouse clicks, get back to Microsoft! =P Lewis -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
Hi Mike, I just read the article, nice and interesting. I think that Aerosmith guy should read it, seriously. =) Regards, Lewis Mike Noyes wrote: Here is the ESR link. How To Ask Ques tions The Smart Way http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ http://leaf-project.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py i -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] reminders sent w/ wrong sender
Greetings, Password reminders have been going out with the wrong Sender, Errors-To and X-Beenthere headers set. They are set to another list to which the receipient is not subscribed. At the same time the body of the message contains info on the correct list. I'm running mailman 2.08 and python 1.5.2. Any help appreciated. thanks alan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] return to sender error
I just installed the latest mailman from ports on FreeBSD running Postfix. I setup a test list but anytime I send mail to it, it gets bounced with the error unknown user test May 16 12:59:56 watchdog postfix/local[9674]: CE86FCEBF: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=1, status=bounced (unknown user: test) I have updated my alias file and set my crons. My permissions are set correctly too. Do I need to adduser for each mailing list name i create? - Adam -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Messages of one list stuck in queue
I've mailman with four low volume mailing lists. Posts to one of the lists are stuck in qfiles. Other lists work without problem. There are no errors in logs/post or logs/smtp. qrunner is running from cron, and running qrunner manually makes no difference. However lots of these in logs/errors, that have started to appear at the same time as one of the list stopped working. May 16 21:06:01 2002 (4253) Delivery exception: not enough arguments for format string May 16 21:06:01 2002 (4253) Traceback (innermost last): File /var/mailman//Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py, line 82, in do_pipeline func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /var/mailman//Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py, line 44, in process footer = string.replace(mlist.msg_footer % d, '\r\n', '\n') TypeError: not enough arguments for format string -- Petri Lehtonen e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages of one list stuck in queue
Petri Lehtonen wrote: May 16 21:06:01 2002 (4253) Delivery exception: not enough arguments for format string May 16 21:06:01 2002 (4253) Traceback (innermost last): File /var/mailman//Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py, line 82, in do_pipeline func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /var/mailman//Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py, line 44, in process footer = string.replace(mlist.msg_footer % d, '\r\n', '\n') TypeError: not enough arguments for format string You have an error in the text of your footer, probably a character that needs to be escaped. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
At 04:17 PM 5/16/2002 +0200, you wrote: AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: At 12:35 AM 5/16/2002 -0700, you wrote: On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:25:53AM -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: Does not work in a shared environment. PERMISSION DENIED every time! Uh? You gotta be part of the group mailman to have permissions on the db. Damn this really sucks. I imagine this software just was not designed to run in a shared environment. permissions are a basic requirement for shared environments. you obviously don't know what you are talking about. the problem is: you talk loudly. You stick your nose where it doesn't belong. I fully know permissions. In a shared environment not all users have the permissions to access certain'master' files. You do know what I mean by a master file. It is a basic concept. please try to understand the basic principles of open-source software (and while you're at it, there is a good howto by eric raymond on how to ask intelligent questions, you might want to digest that too) before you post again to this list. The fact that the software is open source is not even slightly relevant. then try to get a clue about the fact that your way to use mailing lists is not the only way in this solar system. more precisely, yours is in fact a very special, rather limited usage of mailing lists, which is why you don't understand what most of mailman's features are about. A news list rather than a discussion list is not specialized at all. Many sites use them. When you go to a site where you have to register you often have a check box to sign up to receive information from them. guess what? That's a NEWS list. You can't send to it. I fully understand how MM works. It works in a limited manner with little flexibility. stop being obnoxious to people who donate software to you. get yourself out of bed, learn python and contribute. or buy some guy that will spoon-feed you the basics and whine to him. Obnoxious is the people on the list who answer damn near every question on here with a curt read the FAQ. or worse. Often the FAQ does not say anything about the question asked other than it can't be done. In that case the obnoxious jerk who replied could have easily made comment to the limitation, etc. Asking for help and making suggestions for improvements is not being obnoxious. Maybe in your country all folks do is take what they are given and move along never trying to improve things. That's not the way it is done in the rest of reality. You again make a poor assumption here that everyone who uses Open Source (whether by choice or not) is automatically a programmer. Funny how the users here are the ones whining when I ask a question whereas (at least one of) the programmers have answered (at least some of) my questions with real answers in direct mail. in the mean time, welcome to yet another killfile. Poor baby! Had your little feelings hurt so you take your toys and go home to mommy. Oh well it is asshole like you who should not even be allowed on the Internet. If you want to be involved in a conversation stay in it for the whole thing. Otherwise just shut to hell up and quit showing how childish and immature the little boys in your country are. jörn -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
On 5/16/02 11:52 AM, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obnoxious is the people on the list who answer damn near every question on here with a curt read the FAQ. or worse. Since you've told us repeatedly the software sucks, and you're now moving rapidly into telling us that we all suck, too, why the hell are you still here? Do yourself -- and us -- a favor, and go find a piece of software that doesn't suck. If you need help off the list, I'll be happy to help, just to be rid of you. To everyone else, all I can say is don't feed the energy monster. This has gone from not agreeing with our development styles to personality attacks. Trolls are trolls, and it serves no useful purpose to the Mailman system to continue trying to 'help' this person, since all he's interested in doing is pointing out what idiots we are. Chuq -- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.chuqui.com/ No! No! Dead girl, OFF the table! -- Shrek -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] User List
On Thu, 16 May 2002 03:04:52 -0400 AerosmithFanClub com List Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the URL that I can go to pull a complete list of all my subscribers and their password? I don't want any sort of nice cute warm and fuzzy graphical glitzed up thing, just a quick and dirty complete list. The list needs to be continuous, not paged. Any ideas? ~mailman/bin/list_members -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] MySQL database?
I've just installed Mailman and am quite please at how easy it was to get it up and running. I now have two issues that I cannot seem to find documentation on: 1) running Mailman for Virtual Hosts and 2) using MySQL or data from MySQL to include in the mail list. With a bit of time I can probably figure out the former issue. The latter issue seems a bit more tricky for a variety of reasons. In short, I have other functionality (CGI/mod_perl scripts) running for virtual web hosts that allow users to input email address and thus be attached to a mailing list. I'd like to either a) use MySLQ as the database for Mailman or b) pull those addresses from MySQL and include them in the Mailman database for the mail list. Both ideas have obvious caveats and pitfalls (how to sync an un-subscribe request with MySQL if I use the original Mailman database...). Any ideas or leads are much appreciated. -- -Doug -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] MySQL database?
On Thu, 16 May 2002 15:10:54 -0700 Doug La Farge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) running Mailman for Virtual Hosts See hostname that this list prefers on the first admin page for each list. 2) using MySQL or data from MySQL to include in the mail list. Not really possible in 2.0, easier but not done yet in 2.1. You end up doing tricks with ~mailman/bin/add_members until then. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
