Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Ben
Thanks Mark, the source code change you gave me made it work: I was able to use newlist, and it completed successfully! However, when I attempt to connect to the Admin page (http://localhost/mailman/admin.exe) it says: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.6 We're sorry, we hit a bug! ... the webmaster

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-22 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 10:26:50PM -0600, Brad Knowles wrote: At 5:40 PM -0500 2005-12-21, Ross Vandegrift wrote: I've got some questions on a mailman server that's currently performing non-optimally. If you've got a large list, the first thing you need to do is to search the FAQ

[Mailman-Users] filename too long error - stopping list

2005-12-22 Thread Michael Rasmussen
I have a list that was sent a file with an attachement with too long a name. (See error below) now all mail to the list is being shunted. the filename listed does not exist on my system. There is no file on my system with that name. The directory

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-22 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 01:23:12AM -0600, Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:46 PM -0500 2005-12-21, Ross Vandegrift wrote: One propety of these lists is that there is a high incidence of bad addresses - the developer of the web front end refuses to do any kind of validation before they are added to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-22 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Ross Vandegrift wrote: At 10:46 PM -0500 2005-12-21, Ross Vandegrift wrote: I'm working on the web developer to implement some better checks. It'd be awesome if when we got a subscription request from a client, some code made sure they didn't type [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Mailman-Users] filename too long error - stopping list

2005-12-22 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Update: I've found the offending message and purged it from the list archives, purged it from the shunt files, and purged it from everywhere I could find it. Yet the problem persists. So I'm looking for the temp file/mail area where the file that contains this attachment may be found.

Re: [Mailman-Users] filename too long error - stopping list

2005-12-22 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Resolved. The digest keeps a seperate mbox file at {MMDIR}lists/LISTNAME/digest.mbox removing the email from that location was the solution to my immediate problem. This does expose a DOS attack potential for MM lists. The too long attachment name needs to be handled in a more graceful

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-22 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:01 AM -0500 2005-12-22, Ross Vandegrift wrote: I knew things were going to sound like this when I came to the list, and I do apologize. I agree 100%. The issue here is that the server houses lists for a fairly high-profile television celebrity. You might be suprised at the amount

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman watchdog - status report

2005-12-22 Thread Matt Emerson
On Dec 21, 2005, at 4:02 PM, Con Wieland wrote: I recently had some (more) problem's that Mark Shapiro helped me out with. In that exchange I asked about a watchdog type program to help in early problem detection. One thing we use here is a script that keeps an eye on the qrunners. They've

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: I tried explicitly forcing permissions with 'chmod 777 config.pck', and that made the Admin page work. So, the 660 permissions are the problem, not the owner/group. However, when I tried the Admin page for the list, I got We're sorry, we hit a bug! again: admin(4088): File

[Mailman-Users] problems with mailman and dyndns host

2005-12-22 Thread fvgi242ss
I run gissmoh.kicks-ass.net (dyndns) and mail.wlanhacking.de which is an alias to gissmoh.kicks-ass.net. I have existing CNAME/MX entries: mail.wlanhacking.de.CNAME gissmoh.kicks-ass.net *.wlanhacking.de. MX 100 gissmoh.kicks-ass.net wlanhacking.de. MX

Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with mailman and dyndns host

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
fvgi242ss wrote: Several recipients get messages like this: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 4:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wlanhacking] Please be patient What to do to

[Mailman-Users] /mailman/ part of URL

2005-12-22 Thread Ronald Nissley
What needs to be changed in httpd.conf and/or mm_cfg.py so that my lists can be accessed via http://lists.mydomain.tld instead of http://lists.mydomain.tld/mailman? The relevant part of my httpd.conf: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ Directory /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/

Re: [Mailman-Users] receiving list mail from account towhich mail cannot be delivered

2005-12-22 Thread webster
Mark ( Dan ( others)), Thanks for the info. I figured my #12 question was available in the webgui somewhere, but I just didn't notice that 'Privacy options' expands. I [now] guess that's what the '...' is for, huh ? :-) Anywho, your comments on my #3 question, below, gets me to thinking. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] /mailman/ part of URL

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ronald Nissley wrote: What needs to be changed in httpd.conf and/or mm_cfg.py so that my lists can be accessed via http://lists.mydomain.tld instead of http://lists.mydomain.tld/mailman? The relevant part of my httpd.conf: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ ScriptAlias /

Re: [Mailman-Users] receiving list mail from account towhich mailcannot be delivered

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Gary R. Webster wrote: Anywho, your comments on my #3 question, below, gets me to thinking. I could have the 'config_list -i path/to/file/above' just run whenever, like from cron, no ? Even better, if there were some kind of 'trigger' to hook when a new list is created from the web... You

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-22 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:39:37AM -0600, Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:01 AM -0500 2005-12-22, Ross Vandegrift wrote: Ahh. In this case you might want to give me some identifying information for your lists, because I updated FAQ 1.15 with the information you had posted on the list, and I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Ben
Mark, Thanks very much for continuing to try to help.. I tried explicitly forcing permissions with 'chmod 777 config.pck', and that made the Admin page work. So, the 660 permissions are the problem, not the owner/group. This seems to be a widespread issue with Mailman under Cygwin -

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: I have tried this. However, I get the exact same error as before: admin(704): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 591, in __load admin(704): fp = open(dbfile) admin(704): IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/friends/config.pck' I have

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Ben
You need to run bin/newlist as mailman or some user in the Administrators group, not as Ben in group None. User 'Ben' and 'mailman' are both in the Administrators group. It is cygwin that decides to display None as the file's group owner. I assume this is just a limitation of Cygwin. On the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Create mail list which user cannot un-subscribe

2005-12-22 Thread Elvis Fernandes
Thanks! That will take care of my requirement. Regards Elvis On 12/21/05, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elvis Fernandes wrote: I am trying to create a mail list where users DO NOT have the choice to un-subscribe. Is there a way that this can be accomplished in mailman?

[Mailman-Users] Seaching the contents of archives

2005-12-22 Thread Elvis Fernandes
Hello, Is there a way that the contents of mailman archives can be made searchable? Without mailman, the users could find/search for content using their mail reader. There are private internal mail lists of the company, and I am looking at ways to give the users a mailman/pipermail search

Re: [Mailman-Users] filename too long error - stopping list

2005-12-22 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi Michael, You can set Scrubber.py not to use the orginal filename in the message by adding followin line in mm_cfg.py (mailman-2.1.6 and above). SCRUBBER_DONT_USE_ATTACHMENT_FILENAME = True Developers, May be we should set this default in Defaults.py.in in the next release of 2.1.7.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: You need to run bin/newlist as mailman or some user in the Administrators group, not as Ben in group None. User 'Ben' and 'mailman' are both in the Administrators group. It is cygwin that decides to display None as the file's group owner. I assume this is just a limitation of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Seaching the contents of archives

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Elvis Fernandes wrote: Is there a way that the contents of mailman archives can be made searchable? Without mailman, the users could find/search for content using their mail reader. There are private internal mail lists of the company, and I am looking at ways to give the users a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Ben
So, as far as both Windows and Cygwin should be concerned, mailman _is_ in the Administrators group. But that clearly isn't what's happening. What do you get from group Ben and group mailman I get bash: group: command not found If they are in more than one group, I think files they

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: But that clearly isn't what's happening. What do you get from group Ben and group mailman I get bash: group: command not found Sorry, that should have been groups, not group Now i tried setting mmsitepass, and giving the same value in the web create inteface. That got past

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: Well, in my case, everything runs as user Mark and group None so everything is in the None group, and it works. Aha! Well, maybe that's the only functional workaround! I will try re-configure and re-install with --with-mail-gid=None --with-cgi-gid=None --with-groupname=None and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Ben
Mark, Aha! Well, maybe that's the only functional workaround! I will try re-configure and re-install with --with-mail-gid=None --with-cgi-gid=None --with-groupname=None and see if it gets further. To continue the story. I tried this, and web access produced the error that Apache is

[Mailman-Users] editing archive template

2005-12-22 Thread Joe Mezzanini
How do I edit the archibve template? Which is here (for me)? http://maillist.themezz.com/pipermail/themezz-themezz.com/ thanks, Joe -- http://cnyEats.com http://theMezz.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: You mentioned that you _have_ seen it work with user 'Mark' and group 'None'. Do you have any record of what you passed to ./configure in this case? Yes, but it won't help you because I run Apache under Cygwin, also as user Mark and group None. This comes out of a shell script that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: Right. Perhaps the trouble is that Apache runs outside of Cygwin (or more precisely, the trouble is that Mailman runs inside it :) although Apache is simply executing a binary which is built and runs inside Cygwin, so that must not be it. This is the first time you mentioned Apache

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman watchdog - status report

2005-12-22 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:32 PM -0500 2005-12-22, Matt Emerson wrote: if ps axw | grep -v grep | grep -v check-qrunner | grep qrunner /dev/ If you want to clean this up and not spawn so many uses of grep, you can try something like the following: if ps axw | egrep 'q[r]unner'

Re: [Mailman-Users] editing archive template

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Joe Mezzanini wrote: How do I edit the archibve template? Which is here (for me)? http://maillist.themezz.com/pipermail/themezz-themezz.com/ See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.048.htp for instructions on editing templates in general. The particular template for an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Ben Discoe
Hi Mark, Right. Perhaps the trouble is that Apache runs outside of Cygwin (or more precisely, the trouble is that Mailman runs inside it :) This is the first time you mentioned Apache doesn't run under Cygwin. I'm sure this adds a serious complication. Wow. I had no idea at all that