[Mailman-Users] confirmation problems

2007-04-08 Thread Bill Bedford
I am getting a number of confirmations failing with SMTP errors similar 
to this

Out: 220 mousa.uk.com ESMTP Postfix
 In:  HELO smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com
 Out: 250 mousa.uk.com
 In:  MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Out: 250 Ok
 In:  RCPT
 
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Out: 550
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table
 In:  QUIT


I presume this is a mailer (Outlook?) problem, but can anyone suggest a 
work around?


-- 
Bill Bedford

Nothing is as important as model railways and even that isn't very 
important 

-some wiseguy somewhere 
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


[Mailman-Users] confirmation problems

2007-04-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bill Bedford writes:
  I am getting a number of confirmations failing with SMTP errors similar 
  to this
  
  Out: 220 mousa.uk.com ESMTP Postfix

Your mailer is Postfix, good ...

   In:  HELO smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com
   Out: 250 mousa.uk.com
   In:  MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Out: 250 Ok
   In:  RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Out: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table
   In:  QUIT

  I presume this is a mailer (Outlook?) problem, but can anyone suggest a 
  work around?

This is almost certainly a Postfix problem.  The feature that
recognizes additional data in the mailbox name (ie, the
+9cb3f11e... confirmation code) is apparently turned off.

Or it's possible that your aliases are configured incorrectly so that
bbmodels-confirm is not recognized as a local address.

--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


Re: [Mailman-Users] confirmation problems

2007-04-08 Thread Paul Tomblin
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
 Bill Bedford writes:

   I presume this is a mailer (Outlook?) problem, but can anyone suggest a 
   work around?
 
 This is almost certainly a Postfix problem.  The feature that
 recognizes additional data in the mailbox name (ie, the
 +9cb3f11e... confirmation code) is apparently turned off.
 
To expand on that, in /etc/postfix/main.cf, you need to have:
recipient_delimiter = +

-- 
Paul Tomblin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stay calm, be brave, and wait for the signs!
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Installing Mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris 10

2007-04-08 Thread David Devereaux-Weber, P.E.
Hank,

I'm still not succeeding in building Mailman.  I'd like to follow 
another path.  Can you explain why Tcl/TK don't build?  The Python make 
install command fatals there, and doesn't complete copying some of the 
modules into the right places.

Dave

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The esteemed David Devereaux-Weber has said:
 Hank,

 Thanks for your help!

 I installed Python 2.4.4.  I did receive errors that tcl and something 
 else didn't install.  Now, the Mailman install script still finds 
 /opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213 .  Can you tell me where 
 Python 2.4.4 puts the distutils?

 Dave

 If you built python 2.4.4 to install in /usr/local, you should have a
 /usr/local/lib/python2.4 directory that has the distutils in it.  
 
 I assume you're building Mailman 2.1.9 from downloaded source; if not,
 I recommend you do that, rather than using somebody else's prebuilt
 source.  
 
 Make sure the correct python is in your PATH.  If you've already built
 Mailman with the /opt/csw python2.3, do a make clean, rerun configure,
 make, and make install on Mailman.  
 
 As I've said, /opt/csw is not a Solaris 10 directory, but is used by
 one or more of the package prebuilders.  I would do an audit on what
 is in that directory and pkgrm anything you don't actually need on
 your system.  
 
 Using the Solaris release sendmail and apache works well, but I'd
 build Python 2.4.4 and Mailman 2.1.9 from source.  The default gid for
 sendmail is other and for apache is nobody, for the Mailman
 configure script on Solaris 9/10.
 
 Hank

-- 

David Devereaux-Weber, P.E.
DDW Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(608)576-2599
http://ddwsvcs.com
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


[Mailman-Users] No hitches

2007-04-08 Thread Paul Tomblin
Debian just marked Debian 4.0 (etch) as stable, so I upgrade my Debian 
3.1 (sarge) colo box to Debian 4.0.  Along the way, it upgraded Mailman 
from 2.1.5 to 2.1.9.  Just wanted to let anybody else contemplating such 
an upgrade that it went without a hitch.  The stage where it says 
Updating old qfiles takes rather a long time, but it eventually 
finishes.  Mail continues to flow, the web interface works, the archives 
work.


-- 
Paul Tomblin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stay calm, be brave, and wait for the signs!
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


[Mailman-Users] Locking mailbox files

2007-04-08 Thread Rowan Sylvester-Bradley
Hi,

Does Mailman need to lock Mailbox files? If so, how does it do so?

My hosting company runs Mailman. I'm writing a script which modifies my
mailbox files to delete old messages, and I need to be able to lock the
files before I do so to stop any other process from trying to modify
them at the same time. The way that Mailman does this may give me a clue
how to do it...

Thanks - Rowan



--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


[Mailman-Users] Privacy policy

2007-04-08 Thread Paul Tomblin
Juno and NetZero are refusing email from my mailing list server because 
they think that 25 messages over the course of 3 days makes me some sort 
of spammer.  They're refusing to whitelist me until I can provide a link 
to a Privacy Policy and Terms of Service.  Has anybody else 
encountered this, and do you have samples of those two documents, and 
information how to embed this in my mailman listinfo page?


-- 
Paul Tomblin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stay calm, be brave, and wait for the signs!
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


Re: [Mailman-Users] Locking mailbox files

2007-04-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Rowan Sylvester-Bradley wrote:

Does Mailman need to lock Mailbox files? If so, how does it do so?


Mailman locks lists, not Mailbox files.


My hosting company runs Mailman. I'm writing a script which modifies my
mailbox files to delete old messages, and I need to be able to lock the
files before I do so to stop any other process from trying to modify
them at the same time. The way that Mailman does this may give me a clue
how to do it...


Locks are generally implemented as lock files. I.e. to lock a file
named /a/b/c, attempt to create /a/b/c.lock (or some other file whose
name is a function of /a/b/c). If that file doesn't already exist, you
can access /a/b/c and then remove /a/b/c.lock when you have commited
your changes. If it does already exist, the resource is locked by
another process; you have to wait and retry.

This scheme relies on every process wanting access to the resource
obeying the same rules and using the same lockfile name. Fortunately,
this is usually the case for Mailbox files. See

man lockfile

-- 
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]   The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp


Re: [Mailman-Users] Privacy policy

2007-04-08 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

[mailed and posted]

On Apr 8, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Paul Tomblin wrote:

Juno and NetZero are refusing email from my mailing list server  
because
they think that 25 messages over the course of 3 days makes me some  
sort
of spammer.  They're refusing to whitelist me until I can provide a  
link

to a Privacy Policy and Terms of Service.  Has anybody else
encountered this, and do you have samples of those two documents, and
information how to embed this in my mailman listinfo page?


I have those on the main (only) static page for my site

   http://lists.shepard-families.org/

I doubt that they are as formal as what Juno and NetZero are asking  
for.  At least you actually got to talk to someone about white listing.


For similar problems with AOL, I found that making sure that my HELO  
string had an appropriate DNS PTR record back to the same IP.   
Getting my provider, Verizon, to understand what I was asking for was  
the hard part.


-j




--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Security Policy: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp