Re: [Mailman-Users] Learning to use withlist

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/03/2015 06:52 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: Oh boy. Not good. Here's what I'm after finding: I want to find something I can use to look at a list's properties in order to possibly determine what is wrong with my setup that's generating the smtp-failure messages and generally inhibiting or

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 08:23 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: Because that's the only one I knew of. Blame Red Hat for this one. :-) The RedHat/Centos package is even more complex. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/8486953. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
This should have gone to the list instead of where it went. On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Shapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in a place like /etc/cron.d/mailman as a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:22:43 -0700, Mark wrote: Mailman has two main configuration paths, $prefix for immutable code, etc. and $var_prefix for mutable data. By default, $var_prefix = $prefix, but in your case, you or the packager whose package you installed configured mailman with

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-04 Thread Bernie Cosell
On 4 Jul 2015 at 8:22, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 07/03/2015 09:03 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: I have a spam filter set to 'hold': X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* I would use ^X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* but yours should match any with 3 or more stars, in particular the one above. Is it possible

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/03/2015 03:59 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: Interesting: My $prefix is /usr/lib/mailman. However, there is a /var/lib/mailman as that's where archives is. It's owned and grouped properly, and it does have the 1-bit set in the 'other' portion of its permissions mask. I can definitely fix

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 08:54:44 -0700, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: The RedHat/Centos package is even more complex. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/8486953. Thanks. Noted and saved for future reference. -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:11:54 -0700, you wrote: On 07/04/2015 08:27 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/03/2015 09:03 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: I've looked through the FAQs and the archives and my spam filters *OUGHT* to work. But it seems they're not and I don't know why. I have a spam filter set to 'hold': X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* And a message with these headers just got blasted

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 08:27 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in a place like /etc/cron.d/mailman as a user

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 06:36 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: I guess things are getting better with my new mailman implementation, as I received nine messages overnight I've never gotten before. four are Errno 13 permission denied, five only contain one line: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found The

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrate 2.x - 3.x

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 06:45 PM, JB via Mailman-Users wrote: Is there an ETA on when a migration path from MM 2.x to 3.x will be ready or is there even a plan in place to develop such an animal? The short answer is yes, there is a plan and it is one of the things we plan to include with Mailman 3.1,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 10:19 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: Right. And it was wrong of RH not to tell me that up front, or if it does, it didn't jump up and tell me. Sometimes there's just so much to read and digest, and much of it has to be done after the fact. I'll comb their docs and if it's not

[Mailman-Users] Migrate 2.x - 3.x

2015-07-04 Thread JB via Mailman-Users
Is there an ETA on when a migration path from MM 2.x to 3.x will be ready or is there even a plan in place to develop such an animal? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 10:32 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: I've looked through the headers and it appears that my service provider only runs spam assassin *AFTER* the message goes through mailman -- the spam assassin headers come *after* all the mailman headers. I don't know if I can fix/change that

[Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
I guess things are getting better with my new mailman implementation, as I received nine messages overnight I've never gotten before. four are Errno 13 permission denied, five only contain one line: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found The subject fields of these five all begin with the same text

[Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-04 Thread Bernie Cosell
I've looked through the FAQs and the archives and my spam filters *OUGHT* to work. But it seems they're not and I don't know why. I have a spam filter set to 'hold': X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* And a message with these headers just got blasted out to the list: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 06:50:58 -0700, you wrote: $prefix/archives and the private/ and public/ sub-directories thereof are created on installation, and if Mailman is running there must be a 'mailman' site list and thus $prefix/archives/private/mailman/ and $prefix/archives/private/mailman.mbox/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Learning to use withlist

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 06:38:49 -0700, you wrote: If you mean what can you do interactively after invoking withlist on a list and have a '' prompt, see https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide#Learning_Python for the Python part. For the Mailman specific stuff, You need to understand what list