Re: [Mailman-Users] gmail

2018-09-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/12/2018 09:33 PM, John Levine wrote: > In article <5b99c857.19328.61f1d...@bernie.fantasyfarm.com> you write: >> Well, something changed between Thursday and Friday, because posts to the >> list >> were fine and this one generated a bounce for every gmail member. Has Gmail been bouncing

Re: [Mailman-Users] gmail

2018-09-12 Thread John Levine
In article <5b99c857.19328.61f1d...@bernie.fantasyfarm.com> you write: >Well, something changed between Thursday and Friday, because posts to the list >were fine and this one generated a bounce for every gmail member. Any chance that the message in question had a From: address in a domain that

Re: [Mailman-Users] gmail

2018-09-12 Thread Bernie Cosell
On 13 Sep 2018 at 10:35, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Bernie Cosell writes: > > > I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new > > policy [that was, apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The > > bounces say: > > Can you provide more information about this, or are you

[Mailman-Users] gmail

2018-09-12 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bernie Cosell writes: > I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new > policy [that was, apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The > bounces say: Can you provide more information about this, or are you deducing a new policy from the sudden spate of bounces? I ask

Re: [Mailman-Users] gmail

2018-09-12 Thread Joseph Brennan
I don't have a Mailman recommendation, but the situation is worth some comment: Notice Gmail "blocks" with a 4xx temp fail, for a message they will never accept. That's a protocol violation. It's abusive. I've been seeing the same temp fail abuse for some messages received from Mailchimp and

Re: [Mailman-Users] gmail

2018-09-12 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 11 Sep 2018 10:04:58 -0400 "Bernie Cosell" wrote: > > I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new policy [that > was, > apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The bounces say: > > <@gmail.com>: host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.129.26] said: >