Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change configs for ALL lists?
On Mon, 2010-01-11 at 19:44 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 1/11/2010 7:15 PM, Bernadette Mooney wrote:
> >
> > The current question is: How can I change the configuration of ALL lists,
> > to add a line like
> > "ban_list = ['^[a-za-z0-9@[nn]astymail\\.org'
> > or
> > "header_filter_rules = [('Subject:.*\\*\\*\\*SPAM\\*\\*\\*.*', 3, False)]"
> > or
> > add an extra address to the ban_list line?
> >
> > config_list? with_list? but how?
>
>
> For the first two, see the FAQ at
>
> To add to the ban_list of all lists see
> (mirrored at
> ).
>
Thank you, Mark!
The 'offending' domain is no longer blocked at the gateway, but the
address has now been added to ban_list for all mailing lists. At least
legitimate mail from legitimate users of that domain will be able to
reach individual members of staff or students here.
And the header_filter_rule to discard all mail marked as spam has been
added to all the list configs, so that the notification messages no
longer 'get up the nose' of the list owners.
The ~/data directory and the ~/qfiles directory have never been so
clean. :)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change configs for ALL lists?
At 12:47 PM 1/12/2010, Terri Oda wrote: Elaine Ashton wrote: Well, what concerns me is that the spammers are going at these mass subscriptions via the web interface and it may become a game of whack-a-mole banning domains and IPs. Are there any plans to make the web form subscription more of a hurdle for spammers, e.g. captcha, etc? I'm not a big believer in captcha's (advances in tech have made a lot of them trivially easy to in an automated way, making them annoying to users for little gain) but it might be worth thinking about a plug in architecture for this in mm3 in case something better does come up, or so people can enjoy their placebos... If you decide to do captcha's, please make it optional -- or offer other alternatives. I have 150 lists, and thousands of blind and visually impaired users, including myself, and captcha's are the bane of our existence! Dave -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change configs for ALL lists?
Hi All-- On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Elaine Ashton >> >>Even if it only serves to annoying and slow down spammers, I'd use it. I >>noted ~2000 zeusmail.org subs overnight and it concerns me that this is just >>the opening salvo since this will drive lists which are already closed to >>subscribers only to moderate traffic even from subscribers which, for sites >>like ours with 400 or more lists, isn't really practical. Banning the domain >>and blocking the IP(s) is only a temporary fix. > > > My .02 - every list to which someone can subscribe without admin > approval should moderate new members by default. When they post, if > their post is on topic, you can clear their mod bit while approving > the post from the web admindb interface with one extra check in a > checkbox. > Except that in this case, the new subscribers from zeusmail won't ever post; they'll lurk and snarf email addresses of those who do post. Better not to allow them to subscribe to begin with. Metta, Ivan -- Ivan Van Laningham God N Locomotive Works http://www.pauahtun.org/ http://www.python.org/workshops/1998-11/proceedings/papers/laningham/laningham.html Army Signal Corps: Cu Chi, Class of '70 Author: Teach Yourself Python in 24 Hours -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change configs for ALL lists?
On Jan 12, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > My .02 - every list to which someone can subscribe without admin > approval should moderate new members by default. When they post, if > their post is on topic, you can clear their mod bit while approving > the post from the web admindb interface with one extra check in a > checkbox. That's a fair point, but the number of lists I've got with somewhat *ahem* lax admins, that seems a formidable load to add to our ops team, even with the cli tools we have. But...I may consider that route. e. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change configs for ALL lists?
Elaine Ashton > >Even if it only serves to annoying and slow down spammers, I'd use it. I noted >~2000 zeusmail.org subs overnight and it concerns me that this is just the >opening salvo since this will drive lists which are already closed to >subscribers only to moderate traffic even from subscribers which, for sites >like ours with 400 or more lists, isn't really practical. Banning the domain >and blocking the IP(s) is only a temporary fix. My .02 - every list to which someone can subscribe without admin approval should moderate new members by default. When they post, if their post is on topic, you can clear their mod bit while approving the post from the web admindb interface with one extra check in a checkbox. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change configs for ALL lists?
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 01:59:57PM -0500, Elaine Ashton wrote: > Even if it only serves to annoying and slow down spammers, I'd use > it. I noted ~2000 zeusmail.org subs overnight Have you thought about rate-limiting? -- ``What does it mean? It means I never have to work again.'' (Don McLean, on `American Pie', attrib.) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change configs for ALL lists?
On Jan 12, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Terri Oda wrote: > > I'm not a big believer in captcha's (advances in tech have made a lot of them > trivially easy to in an automated way, making them annoying to users for > little gain) but it might be worth thinking about a plug in architecture for > this in mm3 in case something better does come up, or so people can enjoy > their placebos... Even if it only serves to annoying and slow down spammers, I'd use it. I noted ~2000 zeusmail.org subs overnight and it concerns me that this is just the opening salvo since this will drive lists which are already closed to subscribers only to moderate traffic even from subscribers which, for sites like ours with 400 or more lists, isn't really practical. Banning the domain and blocking the IP(s) is only a temporary fix. e. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change configs for ALL lists?
Elaine Ashton wrote: Well, what concerns me is that the spammers are going at these mass subscriptions via the web interface and it may become a game of whack-a-mole banning domains and IPs. Are there any plans to make the web form subscription more of a hurdle for spammers, e.g. captcha, etc? I'm not a big believer in captcha's (advances in tech have made a lot of them trivially easy to in an automated way, making them annoying to users for little gain) but it might be worth thinking about a plug in architecture for this in mm3 in case something better does come up, or so people can enjoy their placebos... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change configs for ALL lists?
Well, what concerns me is that the spammers are going at these mass subscriptions via the web interface and it may become a game of whack-a-mole banning domains and IPs. Are there any plans to make the web form subscription more of a hurdle for spammers, e.g. captcha, etc? e. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change configs for ALL lists?
On 1/11/2010 7:15 PM, Bernadette Mooney wrote:
>
> The current question is: How can I change the configuration of ALL lists, to
> add a line like
> "ban_list = ['^[a-za-z0-9@[nn]astymail\\.org'
> or
> "header_filter_rules = [('Subject:.*\\*\\*\\*SPAM\\*\\*\\*.*', 3, False)]"
> or
> add an extra address to the ban_list line?
>
> config_list? with_list? but how?
For the first two, see the FAQ at
To add to the ban_list of all lists see
(mirrored at
).
--
Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
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[Mailman-Users] How to change configs for ALL lists?
was: Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing addresses from domain in one fell swoop?
We had the same thing here - 900 lists, 120,000 subscribers - but while
the 400-odd bulk-unsubs went well, cleaning out the 'pending' 700 or so
authorisation requests was a little more problematic. However, 'tis
done now.
The current question is: How can I change the configuration of ALL lists, to
add a line like
"ban_list = ['^[a-za-z0-9@[nn]astymail\\.org'
or
"header_filter_rules = [('Subject:.*\\*\\*\\*SPAM\\*\\*\\*.*', 3, False)]"
or
add an extra address to the ban_list line?
config_list? with_list? but how?
And no, I'm no programmer, just a little quick'n'dirty shell scripting is as
much as I can handle. :(
BCNU..B. Bernadette Mooney
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