Hi everyone,
We have a mailman list running version 2.1.38.
https://homesteadfarm.org/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_homesteadfarm.org
The list has been in service for more than 20 years and we have 400+ people on
the list who live in our neighborhood.
Recently, Gmail is flagging list emails
A subscriber to one of my lists who posts from gmail has been
made aware that some list subscribers do not get his postings
because of DKIM setup at gmail. See attached error message.
I understand that he can't do anything about the DKIM setup at
gmail.
Can I as list admin do something in the
Joseph Brennan writes:
> I don't have a Mailman recommendation, but the situation is worth some
> comment:
>
> Notice Gmail "blocks" with a 4xx temp fail, for a message they will never
> accept. That's a protocol violation. It's abusive.
This is unclear, and I lean to saying Google's
On 09/12/2018 09:33 PM, John Levine wrote:
> In article <5b99c857.19328.61f1d...@bernie.fantasyfarm.com> you write:
>> Well, something changed between Thursday and Friday, because posts to the
>> list
>> were fine and this one generated a bounce for every gmail member.
Has Gmail been bouncing
In article <5b99c857.19328.61f1d...@bernie.fantasyfarm.com> you write:
>Well, something changed between Thursday and Friday, because posts to the list
>were fine and this one generated a bounce for every gmail member.
Any chance that the message in question had a From: address in a
domain that
On 13 Sep 2018 at 10:35, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Bernie Cosell writes:
>
> > I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new
> > policy [that was, apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The
> > bounces say:
>
> Can you provide more information about this, or are you
Bernie Cosell writes:
> I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new
> policy [that was, apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The
> bounces say:
Can you provide more information about this, or are you deducing a new
policy from the sudden spate of bounces? I ask
I don't have a Mailman recommendation, but the situation is worth some
comment:
Notice Gmail "blocks" with a 4xx temp fail, for a message they will never
accept. That's a protocol violation. It's abusive.
I've been seeing the same temp fail abuse for some messages received from
Mailchimp and
At Tue, 11 Sep 2018 10:04:58 -0400 "Bernie Cosell"
wrote:
>
> I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new policy [that
> was,
> apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The bounces say:
>
> <@gmail.com>: host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.129.26] said:
>
On 09/11/2018 07:32 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>
> The one big downside of adding SPF, is that this cause problems if
> anyone sets up a forward for list messages to another domain, as these
> now will get rejected by any domain that checks SPF.
This can be at least partially mitigated by
On 09/11/2018 07:04 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
> I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new policy [that
> was,
> apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The bounces say:
>
> <@gmail.com>: host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.129.26] said:
> 421-4.7.0 This
On 9/11/18 10:04 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
> I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new policy [that
> was,
> apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The bounces say:
>
> <@gmail.com>: host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.129.26] said:
> 421-4.7.0 This message
I've gotten buried by 80 bounce messages, thanks to gmail's new policy [that
was,
apparently, put into effect yesterday]. The bounces say:
<@gmail.com>: host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.129.26] said:
421-4.7.0 This message does not have authentication information or fails to
I have a mailman list running on Linux CentOS 5 with sendmail 8.13.8.
Generally, everything works (I believe/hope).
Today I got a bounce action notification. When I looked at it,
there's a regular DSN e.g.
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
x...@utvinternet.com
On 02/17/2015 05:59 PM, Andrew Daviel wrote:
I have a mailman list running on Linux CentOS 5 with sendmail 8.13.8.
Generally, everything works (I believe/hope).
Today I got a bounce action notification. When I looked at it,
there's a regular DSN e.g.
- The following addresses
Jim Popovitch writes:
TBH, I'm not sure what else there is to look for. :-) GMail, every so
often, is telling my Mailman that it needs to Auth in order to reflect
From:gmail to other gmail customers. It's like DMARC without
following the DMARC standard (GMail has a p=none policy).
Is
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 2:24 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Jim Popovitch writes:
TBH, I'm not sure what else there is to look for. :-) GMail, every so
often, is telling my Mailman that it needs to Auth in order to reflect
From:gmail to other gmail customers. It's
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
On 04/24/2014 12:35 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
I don't know if this was the case before, but Gmail is publishing a
DMARC record with p=none. I seem to
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 11:54 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=14257
b6sm884241igm.2 - gsmtp (in reply to MAIL FROM
command))
So for some period of time, they wanted Mailman to auth as who? :-)
OK, that wasn't an odd hiccup,
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 11:54 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=14257
b6sm884241igm.2 - gsmtp (in reply to MAIL FROM
command))
So for some period of time,
I don't know if this was the case before, but Gmail is publishing a
DMARC record with p=none. I seem to recall that last week the weren't
publishing a DMARC record at all, although I might be mistaken.
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On 04/24/2014 12:35 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
I don't know if this was the case before, but Gmail is publishing a
DMARC record with p=none. I seem to recall that last week the weren't
publishing a DMARC record at all, although I might be mistaken.
These results are from over a week ago.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
On 04/24/2014 12:35 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
I don't know if this was the case before, but Gmail is publishing a
DMARC record with p=none. I seem to recall that last week the weren't
publishing a DMARC record at all,
On 5/15/2013 10:45 AM, Dave Jones wrote, in part:
I am not sure the best place to solve this problem but I will start with
this list since the problem is impacting a heavy traffic mailman listserv.
Since Mark did not respond to this, I will. Mailman is not listserv.
Listserv is a registered
I am not sure the best place to solve this problem but I will start with
this list since the problem is impacting a heavy traffic mailman listserv.
Google recently started enforcing only a single From: header in RFC2822
causing bounces to members of a very heavy traffic list. A single person
On 05/15/2013 08:45 AM, Dave Jones wrote:
My question is can Mailman strip out the duplicate From: headers leaving
the first one? I have searched for a Postfix solution with no luck. I
guess I could work up a procmail solution for all inbound mail but really
didn't want to add that layer
Lucio Crusca writes:
Actually I already suspected that no RFC said what a MUA should do with
messages. However Gmail is accessible via POP/IMAP also. AFAICT the same
messages are lost also when accessing gmail via POP/IMAP, and in that case
GMail is not only a MUA and it does break
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
I don't think so. Perhaps MUA is the wrong term for a message store
in the cloud, but the fact is that Gmail is the final recipient as
far as the RFCs are concerned. Eg, IMAP servers often implement SIEVE
recipes and spam filtering, so some messages will be lost.
On Thursday 09 August 2012, Lucio Crusca wrote:
I'd only like to slap gmail in the face if I could, by
working around their wonderful feature, just for the taste of feeling
smarter than they pretend to be. All in all, what is hacking about if
not that?
Please do! Gmail user only because my
Lucio Crusca writes:
Again, that's not the point and we basically agree gmail is bad,
but... a standard is some set of commonly accepted rules. Be it
written down into a RFC or not.
It doesn't need to be in an RFC, but it must be written. What is
commonly accepted is simply not a standard
On Aug 8, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Well, unfortunately Gmail is closed-source and I don't know what the
full algorithm is. Surely Message-Id is part of it, but evidently
there are other aspects to it, or the behavior you and Brad
R. describe wouldn't
Brad Knowles writes:
I really don't think that this is a disk storage issue, I think
this is much more likely to be a wrong-headed idea that this kind
of thing will be beneficial to the users -- after all, they know
that they sent the message and that copy is sitting in the outbox,
so
Brad Rogers writes:
Gmail has *always* been that way. There is a workaround. Maybe it is
employed (if only by accident) on the lists you mention. It is required
that the list be set up with the following;
Receive: list.foo.bar
Ok, I think the example fits my case (3rd level domain is
On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:09:22 +0200
Lucio Crusca lu...@sulweb.org wrote:
Hello Lucio,
Brad Rogers writes:
Send: smtp.foo.bar
Does that mean that I must have an external (from my mailman server
point of view) smtp server? That would explain everything, but that
I believe so, yes. I only run one
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
Your fact is presumably due to some error in observation, since Gmail
acknowledges this behavior as a feature of Gmail. It is simply not
possible to receive your own posts on Gmail; you can only keep the
Sent folder copy.
I can confirm my observation is correct.
On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:19:41 -
Lucio Crusca lu...@sulweb.org wrote:
Hello Lucio,
Like I said, I suspect it depends on the list. My current best guess is
that older lists (i.e. the ones that had been created before some time
in the past) don't hit the infamous feature, while newer ones do.
Lucio Crusca writes:
Feel free to try subscribing to the above list and try posting from
gmail.
OK, but it will have to wait until tomorrow. I need to sleep after
that last goal by Mexico. :-(
Like I said, I suspect it depends on the list. My current best guess is
that older lists
Having a weird issue with my mailman list. I am using my gmail account as the
list owner and moderator.
When an email is sent to the list from someone else I get the email from the
list just fine, the problem is when someone joins the list I am not getting any
of the email notifications at
On 4/25/2011 8:29 AM, L. James Prevo wrote:
Having a weird issue with my mailman list. I am using my gmail account as
the list owner and moderator.
When an email is sent to the list from someone else I get the email from the
list just fine, the problem is when someone joins the list I am
Kārlis Repsons wrote:
On Friday 12 June 2009 19:45:25 you wrote:
The one thing that might be different is the server I sent this from has
VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes
I set in that way, but still its in spam folder... Strange, how could your
message get into the inbox, do we have different
On Friday 12 June 2009 19:45:25 you wrote:
Kālis Repsons wrote:
Hi,
maybe you have some recipe for making gmail treat confirmation mails as
non-spam? It just throws mail confirm e8492f19d7c336341050...
Confirmations are sent with
Precedence: bulk
which may be part of the problem, but
Hi,
maybe you have some recipe for making gmail treat confirmation mails as
non-spam? It just throws mail confirm e8492f19d7c336341050...
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Kālis Repsons wrote:
Hi,
maybe you have some recipe for making gmail treat confirmation mails as
non-spam? It just throws mail confirm e8492f19d7c336341050...
Confirmations are sent with
Precedence: bulk
which may be part of the problem, but I just tested a confirmation to a
gmail.com
Hi all,this is not the common question about gmail feature that doesn't
accept message back.
I have problems with all gmail accounts (i tried with 2 different but i get
the same result).
I can subscribe to the list with a gmail account but i can't send emails to
that. I can receive others email,
Dario Ghilardi wrote:
Hi all,this is not the common question about gmail feature that doesn't
accept message back.
I'm glad to see that you've already gone through the FAQ and identified what
your problem is not. Knowing what the problem isn't is at least as
important as knowing what it
Brad Knowles wrote:
Dario Ghilardi wrote:
I have problems with all gmail accounts (i tried with 2 different but i get
the same result).
I can subscribe to the list with a gmail account but i can't send emails to
that. I can receive others email, but others (and the mailing list too as
the
@python.org
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] gmail to hotmail problem
* Johnny Kosela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When i send a message from the gmail account to the list. Not every
time but a lot of the times the message does not show up at the
hotmail account. Sending
Using mailman version 2.1.9.cp2 i have a problem with hotmail user not
receiveing emails sent from a gmail account.
I am just testing the list right now and have only 5 members in the list. One
gmail, one hotmail and 3 others
And the list seems to work fine! Except
When i send a
* Johnny Kosela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When i send a message from the gmail account to the list. Not every
time but a lot of the times the message does not show up at the
hotmail account. Sending mail from and to the other accounts seems
to work fine.
[...]
Anyone have seen this problem
Alan McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wrote a letter to the gmail honchos about this, which I reproduce
below. Of course I heard nothing. But maybe if 5 or 50 or 500 of
us wrote similar messages, something might happen . . . ?
Or not. They's known about it for a while, and several have
I have what appears to be a case of GMail eating message posts... allow
me to explain.
I have a user, [EMAIL PROTECTED], who posts to a Mailman list hosted on
one of my servers. According to my Exim and Mailman logs, it is
received by the MTA, passed on to Mailman, posted successfully, and
Quoting Ryan Steele ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I have a user, [EMAIL PROTECTED], who posts to a Mailman list hosted on
one of my servers. According to my Exim and Mailman logs, it is
received by the MTA, passed on to Mailman, posted successfully, and sent
back out to all the recipients,
Paul Tomblin wrote:
Quoting Ryan Steele ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I have a user, [EMAIL PROTECTED], who posts to a Mailman list hosted on
one of my servers. According to my Exim and Mailman logs, it is
received by the MTA, passed on to Mailman, posted successfully, and sent
back out to all the
Alan McConnell wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 12:56:41PM -0400, Ryan Steele wrote:
Is it the case that since Mailman makes the posting look like it came
from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (i.e., it's claiming to be that user), and since
one of the recipients is [EMAIL PROTECTED], that Google drops
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 12:56:41PM -0400, Ryan Steele wrote:
Is it the case that since Mailman makes the posting look like it came
from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (i.e., it's claiming to be that user), and since
one of the recipients is [EMAIL PROTECTED], that Google drops it at the
gate and
Quoting Dragon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Paul Tomblin wrote:
Quoting Ryan Steele ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
any other folder. I went back to check the Exim log for failed or
delayed deliveries, only to find nothing (well, for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
anyways :-)
One of the features of gmail is that it
At 2:49 PM -0400 3/14/07, Paul Tomblin wrote:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.042.htp
That FAQ entry says absolutely nothing about the issue in question. GMail
isn't rejecting the message thinking it's spam, they're discarding your
copy of it. Other gmail
Too many thanks to Mark and Brad.
This is very interesting problem according to me.
I have done as follows:
First, I went to auto-responder and reduced to
autoresponse_graceperiod from 90 to 0.
Then, I received a digest message both my gmail and my yahoo address
in question in [mylist [EMAIL
At 5:04 PM +0300 10/3/06, Levent Elpen wrote:
Fourth, Re-check membership list and I shocked: All digest options
that I cancelled re-placed! The system automatically choose digest
checkbox for only these three members (two, my gmail and yahoo
addresses).
Weird. I'm just taking a shot in
Thanks...
I made too self-efforts about this problem before I registered this
group and asked my questions to you. These FAQs never answer my
questions exactly. However, it is not possible to search so long and
variable questions at Python's Mailman FAQ Wizard web pages.
I cancelled my group's
Hi,
I have a problem recently (I have not, before). I have two mailman
lists on my server and cpanel. One runs properly and send mail to all
server types include gmail and yahoo. Other, runs properly, too, but
does not send specially my yahoo and gmail adresses. This list's admin
address is my
At 10:22 PM +0300 10/2/06, Levent Elpen wrote:
I have a problem recently (I have not, before). I have two mailman
lists on my server and cpanel.
Please see FAQ 6.11.
One runs properly and send mail to all
server types include gmail and yahoo. Other, runs
Sorry if this is a repeat I havent been able to find a definitive answer on
this through Google so I just joined this list. Does Mailman have issues
with GMAIL? I am hosting two lists and when I send an email to the list
from GMAIL it makes it to the archives on the list's web interface but
At 10:26 AM -0700 2005-09-09, scot condry wrote:
Sorry if this is a repeat I havent been able to find a definitive answer on
this through Google so I just joined this list. Does Mailman have issues
with GMAIL?
Not per se, no. But Gmail is large enough that when they have
Brad Knowles wrote:
I wonder if maybe Topica changes the content of the Message-ID:
header. Most mailing list software goes to great lengths to try to
avoid changing this header, because this is supposed to be the
globally unique id by which this particular message is known.
According
I should re-emphasize that the magically blessed mailman list that
gets through my/gmail's duplicate detector is THIS LIST
(mailman-users@python.org). Or at least it did until I switched to
digest mode.
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On my gmail account I have three subscriptions to mailman lists, all
on different servers, and on two of them I don't recieve copies of my
own posts, even though I've set the relevant option to yes:
] Receive your own posts to the list?
] Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post
gmail is and has been having serious delivery delay issues off and on since
it went open/public beta. the problems continue although they are less and
farther in betweenlast few days have been bad again.
--On Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:16 -0500 David Morse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:16:17 -0500, David Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On my gmail account I have three subscriptions to mailman lists, all
on different servers, and on two of them I don't recieve copies of my
own posts, even though I've set the relevant option to yes:
It's likely nothing to
At 11:46 AM -0600 2005-02-17, Stephanie wrote:
Maybe that third list where you do get copies back does something like
Topica, something that keeps GMail from seeing it as a duplicate.
I wonder if maybe Topica changes the content of the Message-ID:
header. Most mailing list software goes to
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