RE: [Mailman-Users] Attachements?

2002-12-20 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi, 1) Attachments are no problem for Mailman as long as your MTA allows them 2) Attachments can easily be stripped from inbound email at your MTA (not by Mailman). I am quite happy with demime (www.google.com/search?q=demime) on my mailinglist server. -Jim P. > -Original Message- > F

RE: [Mailman-Users] Timing Question...

2002-12-31 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi Chris, I've never assed my users, but I reserve the option to do it in the future if needed. Of course I will more than likely send them a welcome message when I do. :) As for questions 1 & 2, it is all in the timing. Presumably all 150 users were subscribed before the first notification wen

RE: [Mailman-Users] Timing Question...

2002-12-31 Thread Jim Popovitch
looks very promising... minor concern for the Wil effect though. ;) -Jim P. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of Chris DiBona > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 1:39 AM > To: Jim Popovitch > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
It is worth adding that doing this will surely invalidate most if not all URLs that reference archived emails. -Jim P. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of Jon Carnes > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; D

RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
ay, January 25, 2003 5:47 PM > To: Jim Popovitch; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier PIETTE > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private > archives > > > Yep, but as I recall someone made a patch that preserved the URL > references > (at least in 2.0). Not that

RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 4:36 PM > > >>>>> "JP" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > JP> I too use HTDig, but this doesn't really help with external > JP> search engines or deep-linkers. The best

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: dino > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:44 AM > > Actually he did it this way: > > Noticed that mydomain/mailman was browsable. > > Telneted to port 80 and sent a get request from there...ouch. Your web browser "telnets" to port 80 all day long. :) -Ji

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Adam > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:49 AM > > The fact that telnet is open pretty much says everything about > this sysadmin's approach to security. The fact that you confused "telnet 80" with "telnet " says volumes about your sysadmin skills. :) Peo

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Simone Piunno > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:25 AM > > actually, telnet does NOT show you the RAW connection data (it does > terminal emulation, intercepting control sequences). For real raw > data you should use netcat: > Excellent point Simone. I s

[Mailman-Users] List variables

2003-02-07 Thread Jim Popovitch
Is there a simple list somewhere of all the MM list variables (e.g. real_name) that can be used when editing the HTLM for public list pages? Thanks, -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman's Host Name & sendmail's Virtual Users

2003-02-16 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Jon Carnes > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:33 PM > > In my experience, Sendmail is not an optimized MTA. Here is where I jump in... :) Sendmail is easily optimized, but most people who install it don't need that kind of setup and config. Sendmail is

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman's Host Name & sendmail's Virtual Users

2003-02-16 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Keith Mastin > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:46 PM > > How's this for a reply: man sendmail > :) > That's just too much like saying RTFM! :) -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] h

RE: [Mailman-Users] Machine is too slow

2003-03-21 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi Andre, -how much memory? -sendmail? -local DNS? -is /var on a different partition than Mailman dir? -output of: `df-k | grep tmp` `date; find / | wc -l; date` Thanks, -Jim P. > -Original Message- > From: Andre Ricardo > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Mailman-Users] cleaning up archives

2003-03-23 Thread Jim Popovitch
NO!! You will loose your archives that way. This is what I do: edit mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox (delete the posts) rm -r mailman/archives/private/listname/* mailman/bin/arch listname -Jim P. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [Mailman-Users] cleaning up archives

2003-03-23 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Jonas Meurer > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 2:13 PM > > What's the difference between edit > mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox and deleting all > posts nothing if you are looking to purge all emails. It is possible to edit listname.mbox and

[Mailman-Users] Problems: Mailman 2.1.1 upgrade w/ Virtual hosts

2003-03-30 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi, I recently tried to upgrade an existing MM 2.0.11 system, with multiple virtual hosts, to MM 2.1.1. The install goes fine, but all of the configs have a generic domainname rather than the specific virtual domain. Additionally, nothing I do (config_list, etc) will set the list with the correct

RE: [Mailman-Users] [Fwd: list statics]

2003-07-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
Here's one that I use to produce a simple report of members per virtual domains: -- BEGIN SCRIPT (mailman-report.sh) --- #!/bin/sh # v1.0 # Created by Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2003-06-30 # # # This script creates a report showing you the number

RE: [Mailman-Users] Is Mailman 2.1.2 out yet for Redhat 7.xand/orRedhat 8.x?

2003-08-01 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi Paul, I just went through this same issue this week on a rh7.3 box. Basically you need to install the python2 rpms ("up2date -i python2 python2-devel") and then download and install mailman 2.1.2 using the following commands: tar -xvzf mailman.tar.gz cd mailman-2.1.2 ./configure --wit

RE: [Mailman-Users] Managing archives

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Jon Carnes > Sent: Tuesday, 12 August, 2003 10:55 > > Once the mbox is put back in place, you will need to > run the ~mailman/bin/arch command to rebuild the > archives using the new mbox file. > Doing this will cause all or most of your archives to have new UR

RE: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail and Yahoo sending mail straight tojunkfolders.

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
Yahoo! does that for a LOT of email, not necessarily because it comes from Mailman. For the record, all my Mailman "delivered" (note: Mailman doesn't deliver mail, your MTA does) email, sent to my personal Yahoo! address, is arriving in the intended destination not the bulk/junk email folder. Mor

RE: [Mailman-Users] Everything stopped yesterday

2002-07-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
Very Interesting Did you stop your inbound MTA before you did the upgrade to 2.0.12? -Jim P. > -Original Message- > From: G. Armour Van Horn > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 4:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Everything stopped yesterday > > > Andy, > > For

RE: [Mailman-Users] Automatic Rejection?

2002-07-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Bill Selmeier > > Certainly there is. I don't know which version you are using but in 2.0.11 > the 6 question on the Privacy configuration page is: > > Restrict posting privilege to list members? (member_posting_only) > (Details) > In all fairness, all that do

RE: [Mailman-Users] HowTo edit Archives by hand

2002-07-17 Thread Jim Popovitch
A side effect of doing this is that the re-generated html files are not necessarily referenced as they used to be. Thus if there are other references to these files (such as this one: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-July/021154.html) they will be incorrect/invalid after a re-a

RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman

2002-08-08 Thread Jim Popovitch
OK, If that is a acceptable reply to anyone on the list than I may consider leaving. Isn't everyone here an adult? Please people, think before you post. -Jim P. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Support Desk > Sent: Thursday, August

RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman

2002-08-08 Thread Jim Popovitch
be > solved through searching the vast library of the internet, THEN I post > something, requesting help. It's REALLY not that hard to do the > same thing. > > In short, most (if not all) problems can be solved by searching > various search > engines, FAQ's, utiliz

RE: [Mailman-Users] Good Bye!

2002-08-08 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Croft > > Thanks to all that have offered help in the pastI am out of here! > You're not taking all the p0rn with you... are you...? ;) Please come back... please... pretty please. pretty, pretty, please. ...oh, nevermind... be gone. -Ji

RE: [Mailman-Users] Subscription options help

2002-09-19 Thread Jim Popovitch
That doesn't work... it just causes Mailman to reply with detailed instructions on how to unsubscribe via email. The detailed instructions mention needing a password, which prompts most users (because few ever set a password) to have to use the web interface. In the end it takes 15 steps to unsu

RE: [Mailman-Users] Subscription options help

2002-09-19 Thread Jim Popovitch
Thanks Ashley, but that's not a solution... it clearly says: "This is an upcoming feature and may be available in a current alpha or beta release." The optional add-on (which isn't even part of Mailman) requires wrapper-like scripts, MySQL and Perl. Obviously you have no concept of running

RE: [Mailman-Users] Subscription options help

2002-09-20 Thread Jim Popovitch
of the day more of my users would prefer confirmation emails over having to go to some website to request a password be sent in an email so that they can send another email to unsubscribe. -Jim P. > -Original Message- > From: Kyle Rhorer > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 1:33 AM

RE: [Mailman-Users] Subscription options help

2002-09-20 Thread Jim Popovitch
Thanks Barry, That's great news for people running beta sites. ;) I run a production site. MM2.1 is looking good, and I am anticipating rolling it out as soon as it is released. -Jim P. > -Original Message- > From: Barry A. Warsaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >

RE: [Mailman-Users] How to kill the evil that is sendmail

2002-09-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi Angel, What you need to do is configure sendmail to not be persistent with flaky mail servers (this assumes it is not your mail server that is flaky). I do this on my lists because I don't want every thing backing up when someone's home based linux mailserver is down while they are fsking wit

RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Re: One Button Direct Subscription

2002-10-02 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi Will, That is not entirely true. Sometimes you already have the person authenticated via another fashion (think: online banking software), and all that you want to do is have the user subscribe for banking notices by pressing one button. -Jim P. > -Original Message- > From: Will Yar

[Mailman-Users] Privacy Option: disguise email addresses

2002-11-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi all, I recently noticed that Mailman (even the version that hosts this list) doesn't remove email address in processed emails. The description: "Show member addrs so they're not directly recognizable as email addrs?" sort of implies that email addresses embedded in replies will be masked. Is

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archives and email addresses

2002-12-01 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Chris Hedemark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:11 PM > > It is easy for a user to render their email address relatively > unrecognizable to harvesters if they so desire (indeed, this > has been a common practice for years). That is false

RE: [Mailman-Users] Hardware

2002-12-16 Thread Jim Popovitch
Intel 486 w/ 32Mb of ram and a 2 gig harddrive.  :)   Seriously, just about any hardware you can get your hands on (short of a palm pc) can handle this.   -Jim P. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jsinghSent: Monday, December

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to apply the security patch

2005-11-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
Get this patch: http://www.list.org/CAN-2005-0202.txt change to Mailman/Cgi directory, backup private.py, then run: patch -p1 < CAN-2005-0202.txt hth, -Jim P. Sean Murray wrote: > I was would like to know how to apply the security patch CAN-2005-0202? > > Thanks > > > -

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to new host

2005-12-04 Thread Jim Popovitch
Did the domainname change for the host? If so, you might need to fix the URL for each list. Check to make sure that DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST are defined properly in mm_cfg.py. Then run this command for each list: /usr/local/mailman/bin/withlist -l -r fix_url hth, -Jim P.

[Mailman-Users] manual upgrade (was: RELEASED Mailman 2.1.7)

2005-12-31 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi, I normally build mailman (./configure; make install) on a dev system then tar/rsync it to a production machine. I checked the UPGRADING notes in the 2.1.7 release and there is no mention of anything (i.e. withlist, fix_url, etc) that needs to be done when upgrading from 2.1.5 to 2.1.7.

Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Output from "cron" command

2006-01-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote: > mcnutt wrote: >> >> File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 138, in __getmsgids >>ids = [k for k, (op, data) in self.__db.items() if op == rtype] >> ValueError: too many values to unpack > > > It looks like some lists/listname/request.pck (or request.db for

Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Output from "cron" command

2006-01-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote: > > I assume you are no longer getting errors from cron/checkdbs. What > happens if you put the request.pck back and try to go to the admindb > page for the list? Does this produce the error? Yes. > If not, does it update the request.pck? If so, this may fix the problem. If

[Mailman-Users] denying mbox AND txt archives

2006-01-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi, Is there a way to "privatize" archive txt files? I know that PUBLIC_MBOX prevents the mbox URL from appearing in thread.html, date.html, etc., and I can also block *.mbox at the server. HOWEVER, blocking *.txt at the server isn't an option for me. Is there a way to have the archiver chm

Re: [Mailman-Users] denying mbox AND txt archives

2006-01-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
chliststart.html to remove language specific references to "Downloadable version". I honestly think that Mailman should support properly chmod'ing private/*/*.mbox and private/*/*.txt files when the site sets PUBLIC_MBOX to "No". BTW, this was for MM 2.1.7 -Jim P. Jim Popov

Re: [Mailman-Users] denying mbox AND txt archives

2006-01-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
And I have now added this info to the MM FAQ as 4.66. disabling "bulk" pipermal archive files (.mbox and .txt) ** -Jim P. Jim Popovitch wrote: > OK, I solved my own problem with > > this bit of Apache config: > RedirectMatch permanent /mailman/priva

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
Brad Knowles wrote: > All security-related questions should be handled in accordance > with FAQ 1.27, see > . OK, that makes some sense to keep it hush-hush for a while. HOWEVER, what is the process for notifying Mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
Tokio Kikuchi wrote: > [snip] > > This is the mechanism of "Denial of Service". Thank you Tokio for the very detailed info. > Therefore, the site administrator should check the qfiles/shunt > directory and the logs/error file periodically. > > Brad Knowls' Daily Status Report should help in t

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
Brad Knowles wrote: > At 3:28 PM -0500 2006-01-26, Jim Popovitch wrote: > >> OK, that makes some sense to keep it hush-hush for a while. HOWEVER, >> what >> is the process for notifying Mailman admins of temporary workarounds for >> this and any other situat

Re: [Mailman-Users] prevent address spoofs [dnk]

2006-01-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
Dustin Krysak wrote: > Good day -- I am looking at using mailman for a list that will just > have 1 -4 addresses that will be authorized to actually post to the > list. I am also looking for a way to manage list members with a web > interface as well as the usual subscription type functions.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual-domain support?

2006-01-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
Matt England wrote: > I've been away from the list for a while, and am curious: > > Will "virtual domains" support be included in Mailman 2.2...if they are not > already? > > By "virtual domain" support I mean the ability to support email lists from > multiple domains via one GNUMailman install

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
Brad Knowles wrote: > > Fortunately, in this case it is a known issue (which others have > apparently decided to portray in a very different way), and which has > already been addressed (as described by Tokio). OK, but what about the next one? What do Mailman system admins do, wait? -Jim

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual-domain support?

2006-01-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
Matt England wrote: > At 1/26/2006 07:47 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> I run multiple lists with Mailman, been doing so since v1.1 (or was it >> 1.2?). Anyway, virtual domains work for me. What virtual domain >> problem do you have with recent MM versions? > > [

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual-domain support?

2006-01-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
Matt England wrote: > > sendmail. ** shudder ** Hey, no shudder here. I fully understand Sendmail, it works well and I sleep good at night. YMMV. > [... rest of stuff deleted, not sure why we are talking about an MTA > if it's a Mailman problem ...but yes, I know how to get my MTA to do > this

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Jim Popovitch wrote: >> OK, but what about the next one? What do Mailman system admins do, wait? > > Yes, I think so. The alternative is everyone goes off half-cocked and > you have a situation such as occurred about a year ago with the > CAN-

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
Brad Knowles wrote: > > There is a QA process that such patches need to go through, even if > we're talking about a bug that is being currently being exploited widely. > > In fact, the more it's being exploited, and the more dangerous it > is, I think the more testing needs to be done t

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > 5. Security patches are asynchronous, like earthquakes, they happen > when they happen. Very bad analogy. Hurricanes would be better. There is plenty of potential for user-base warning before a patch is to be released. > If the patch comes out on Friday at 4:45

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
Brad Knowles wrote: > At 3:41 PM -0500 2006-01-27, Jim Popovitch wrote: > >>> 5. Security patches are asynchronous, like earthquakes, they happen >>> when they happen. >> >> Very bad analogy. Hurricanes would be better. There is plenty of >> pote

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
Jim Popovitch wrote: > Brad Knowles wrote: >> At 3:41 PM -0500 2006-01-27, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >>>> 5. Security patches are asynchronous, like earthquakes, they happen >>>> when they happen. >>> >>> Very bad analogy. Hurricanes wou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Domain problem with mailman

2006-01-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
Peter Russell wrote: > I just installed Mailman and it seemed to setup ok, until I tried to > create a new list using the web interface. > > I'm running Fedora Core 3 with all the correct versions of Sendmail, > Python, > > Apache and Mailman. > > My machine name is server1.my.domain > > My web

Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness

2006-01-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
Lawrence Bowie wrote: > > That has already been done. There is something wrong. > > Everyone is subscribed to the list as memebers and they are posting with the > same email as on the membership list. > > Has anyone seen this before. Very weird ... I saw it today on a list for one person out o

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>>>>> "Jim" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Oh, if you prefer windstorms, hurricane is a bad analogy. Far more > accurate is "tornado".<0.1 wink> Hurricane is the most accurate analogy, bec

Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness

2006-01-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
Lawrence Bowie wrote: > OK .. Here is the reason it says .. > > > Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list > > > but he is a member of the list. Are headers necessary for you guys to see? Try unsub'ing and resub'ing him. Alternatively try logging into MM as admin and m

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-28 Thread Jim Popovitch
Brad Knowles wrote: > But on Monday, they may not know how long it will take them to > create a patch. It might turn out to be a simple matter that can be > fixed by Tuesday morning, or it might be complex and take weeks or months. > > But when they make that initial announcement, assum

[Mailman-Users] Verifying posts

2006-01-28 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi all, I've been looking into TMDA (http://tmda.net) and got to wondering if something like this (or a subset of it) should be incorporated into Mailman. Here's my line of thinking: What if Mailman had a means, similar to the current subscription verification process, to verify postings to a

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-28 Thread Jim Popovitch
Brad Knowles wrote: > > Some blackhats will already know, but there will be others that don't > -- and who would never know until the first official announcement > goes out. > > No matter what, that first official announcement increases the > exposure of the security weakness. That is an unesca

Re: [Mailman-Users] Verifying posts

2006-01-29 Thread Jim Popovitch
Brad Knowles wrote: > At 1:28 AM +0900 2006-01-30, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >> There was a thread about this in the fairly recent past, perhaps it >> was on mailman-developers, though. IIRC the consensus was "making >> this more trouble than it's worth is not going to be easy". > > Th

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-29 Thread Jim Popovitch
Brad Knowles wrote: > At 2:11 PM -0500 2006-01-28, Jim Popovitch wrote: > >> The whole reason for me waxing so passionately on this thread is the >> earlier suggestion that Diana shouldn't have even emailed mailman-users, >> but rather mailman-security and kept it

Re: [Mailman-Users] How hard is it to spoof an email?

2006-01-29 Thread Jim Popovitch
Jp Possenti wrote: > How hard would it be for someone to maliciously start sending all the users > in my list emails or start deleting people from it by sending bounce errors It's not hard at all. In fact it's quite easy. This is because the raw archive data is available to the public. See thi

Re: [Mailman-Users] How hard is it to spoof an email?

2006-01-29 Thread Jim Popovitch
Jp Possenti wrote: > So basically what you are saying is that Mailman is very insecure? (in > short) :-) Honestly, NO. Mailman is much more secure, in deed very secure, than most software I see.The integrity of Mailman depends highly on the security of your OS, your MTA and your webserver.

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-29 Thread Jim Popovitch
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>>>>> "Jim" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Jim> She was asking a very important question about something that > Jim> was already public. > > What important question? I quote Diana from her

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-29 Thread Jim Popovitch
Brad Knowles wrote: > If we insist that everyone follow the proper procedure every time, > then we shouldn't have any problems. Well, I disagree with the current procedure, which based on past emails, suggests that no one is kept informed about security concerns, and only those that hear about

[Mailman-Users] Add'l subscription info

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Popovitch
Anyone ever hear of any mailman patches that allow for additional subscription info. What I am looking for is a way to record some extra information from each subscriber. Things like birthday (for lists that discuss alcohol), sex (for health/medical related lists), as well as occupation (for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a security hole in Mailman?

2006-02-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote: > As far as your original question is concerned, I don't think we're > aware of any way for list names/posting addresses to be available via > your web server as long as your lists are not 'advertised', your > archives are private and your web server runs as a user/group that > c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a security hole in Mailman?

2006-02-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Jim Popovitch wrote: >> Side question: If the webserver is running as a user/group that can't >> directly access the Mailman installation, how can Mailman web interfaces >> work? Perhaps you mean something else by the above? > > >

[Mailman-Users] Message discarded

2006-02-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
When vette log says "Message discarded" msgid: blah... What can I do to determine the reason why the message was discarded? -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message discarded

2006-02-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Jim Popovitch wrote: > >> When vette log says >> >> "Message discarded" msgid: blah... >> >> What can I do to determine the reason why the message was discarded? > > Those are moderator discards. If you want to know why t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message discarded

2006-02-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >>> When vette log says >>> >>> "Message discarded" msgid: blah... >>> >>> What can I do to determine the reason why the message was discarded? >>

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to stop these Non-sense mails?

2006-02-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
Get some good spam prevention software. Also make sure that your MTA is properly validating who is sending you email (check for thinks like reverse DNS lookups, RBL listings, SPF, DKIM, etc). -Jim P. Kabilan L wrote: > Hai > > I am getting lot spam-mails.The following are the examples. >

Re: [Mailman-Users] MGCP + Reg CallId in CRCX

2006-02-28 Thread Jim Popovitch
What make/model of MGC? Also, do you know that it is presently not unique? -Jim P. geetha wrote: > > Hi all, > Can any of you tell me how to validate the below scenario? > > "Ensure that the IUT sends CRCX including Callid which is unique within > the list of call agents that control the same

Re: [Mailman-Users] MGCP + Reg CallId in CRCX

2006-03-01 Thread Jim Popovitch
geetha wrote: > Actually I am new to this MGCP protocol.I am reading RFC 3435 for the > first time. Great! Everyone has to start off somewhere. > I am framing test cases also parallely.So kindly clarify my doubt. Well, I suggest that you contact the manufacturer, of the equipment in question,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-04 Thread Jim Popovitch
Dave Crocker wrote: > Brad, > > I had hoped that there might be a basis for some constructive dialogue. > However > you persist in using hyperbole like "paid spammer solution", and seem to be > taking in none of the points I have been raising, except as sounding boards > for > repeating your

[Mailman-Users] subscriber filters

2006-03-09 Thread Jim Popovitch
Is there a way to require approval for all subscribers expect for those emails/domains that match a certain pattern? Thx, -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscriber filters

2006-03-12 Thread Jim Popovitch
Jim Popovitch wrote: > Is there a way to require approval for all subscribers expect for those > emails/domains that match a certain pattern? > Kudos to Mark Sapiro who saw the above request from me, went and researched it, and then developed a patch that worked perfectly. All wit

[Mailman-Users] mischief: Login failure with private rosters

2006-03-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi all, I keep seeing "Login failure with private rosters" errors in my mischief logs. Some are accepted as being valid, but others seem to be unrelated to private archives and more likely to be failure to login to unsubscribe or change options. I haven't directly asked any of the users, how

Re: [Mailman-Users] mischief: Login failure with private rosters

2006-03-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote: > This is a normal message. It probably should specify the list but it > doesn't. It has nothing to do with public/private archives. It has to > do with whether the membership roster is available to anyone or not. > I.e., the Privacy options...->Subscription rules->private_roster

Re: [Mailman-Users] Released: Mailman 2.1.8b1

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Popovitch
Is the attached Release notice related to the 2.1.8b1 release? If so, why is it indicated as "stable"? -Jim P. Tokio Kikuchi wrote: Hi Mailman-Users, -Developers and -i18ners, Mailman 2.1.8b1 was released for beta test. Talks are going around on the start of 2.2 after the release of 2.1.8

Re: [Mailman-Users] Released: Mailman 2.1.8b1

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Popovitch
Please review message headers before reporting unsolicited mailings. -- -Jim P. Jim Popovitch wrote: > Is the attached Release notice related to the 2.1.8b1 release? If > so, why is it indicated as "stable"? > > -Jim P. > > Tokio Kikuchi wrote: >> Hi Mailman

[Mailman-Users] DomainKeys

2006-05-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
Anyone presently, and successfully, running a Mailman 2.1.7/8 setup with an MTA that supports DomainKeys? private email is fine if you wish to keep it off list. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.

Re: [Mailman-Users] DomainKeys

2006-05-07 Thread Jim Popovitch
a possible bug or issue in dk-fitler. Since this is not Mailman related, but perhaps of interest to some Mailman users, please let me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) know if you are interested in hearing about a possible fix from the dk-filter folks. Sorry for the list noise, -Jim P. Jim Popovitch wrote

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not all subscribers receiving list mail.

2006-05-09 Thread Jim Popovitch
Patrick Bogen wrote: > On 5/9/06, Bryan Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> raise SMTPServerDisconnected('please run connect() first') >> SMTPServerDisconnected: please run connect() first >> >> May 08 16:27:15 2006 (32223) SHUNTING: >> 1147130009.4508071+7c8069de27c09b68a08e7a123824ede909892f

[Mailman-Users] Approved: header (was: Batch member attributes)

2006-05-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote: > A much better way is to give these authorized posters the moderator > password for the lists and have them post using an Approved: header or > first body line. Although, if they reallty need 80 different passwords > each, I can see that would be quite a pain. This is a questio

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: header

2006-05-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Presumably, if approve(d) is misspelled, the post will be held > anyway. If not, why are we putting an approved line there in the > first place? Now that is a good thought to ponder. Thanks Mark. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users ma

[Mailman-Users] auto-approve patch

2006-05-24 Thread Jim Popovitch
At one time (2.1.7?) there was an auto-approve patch that allowed for subscriptions to be automatically approved for certain domains. Is there an update for 2.1.8? I searched high and low for references to it but could not locate anything. Thanks, -Jim P.

[Mailman-Users] Archive search

2006-05-28 Thread Jim Popovitch
I keep revisiting this issue. ;-) What works great these days wrt archive searching and Mailman 2.1.x? Is there anything as simple as a tested patch? What about private archives, and can the search interface be integrated into Mailman's pages? Tia, -Jim P. ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive search

2006-05-28 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Jim Popovitch wrote: >> What works great these days wrt archive searching and Mailman 2.1.x? Is >> there anything as simple as a tested patch? What about private >> archives, and can the search interface be integrated into Mailman's pages? > &

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't run mm_cfg.py

2006-06-01 Thread Jim Popovitch
Carl Fink wrote: > On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 11:18:04AM -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: > >> When the configuration is done in the Python language in a Python >> script, you can let Python do all the parsing, and do the equivalent >> of "#include" in order to pull in all your configuration details

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't run mm_cfg.py

2006-06-01 Thread Jim Popovitch
John W. Baxter wrote: > On 6/1/06 9:30 AM, "Carl Fink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 11:18:04AM -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: >> >>> When the configuration is done in the Python language in a Python >>> script, you can let Python do all the parsing, and do the equivalent >>>

[Mailman-Users] distributing Mailman between 2 systems

2006-06-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
I would like to move the pipermail archives to a different host then the main Mailman system. Specifically for better archive searching performance with htdig. Is this possible? -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org h

Re: [Mailman-Users] distributing Mailman between 2 systems

2006-06-04 Thread Jim Popovitch
-Jim P. Richard Barrett wrote: > > On 4 Jun 2006, at 06:41, Jim Popovitch wrote: > >> I would like to move the pipermail archives to a different host then the >> main Mailman system. Specifically for better archive searching >> performance with htdig. Is this possible? >

[Mailman-Users] Archive sorting question

2006-06-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
When viewing a pipermail (MM 2.1.8) list archive by Date, is it normal for "Previous message" and "Next message" to navigate to the previous and next by Thread rather than by Date? -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive sorting question

2006-06-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote: > I think I prefer something like > > # Previous message (by thread): [Mailman-Users] Mailman Delivery Issue > # Next message (by thread): [Mailman-Users] Members list settings > # Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] This example makes sense to me.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive sorting question

2006-06-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Brad Knowles wrote: > >> At 8:06 PM -0700 2006-06-10, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >>> I think I prefer something like >>> >>> # Previous message (by thread): [Mailman-Users] Mailman Delivery Issue >>> # Next message (by thread): [Mailman-Users] Members list settings >>> # Messag

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