Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman aliases

in? How are others dealing with this? We delete it. -- Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Flachbau), Zi. 18, Robert-Koch-Str. 10 Zentrum für angewandte Informatik - Universitätsweiter Service RRZK Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - Tel. +49-221-478-5587 pgpsDrigKSJoa.pgp Description: PG

Re: [Mailman-Users] export list subscribers list

t's a feature that many of our listowners ask for. Fortunately there's an alternative that doesn't require my help: the e-mail interface. You can get a list of subscribers by sending a mail to listname-request with the text who -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Z

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mac OS X Leopard upgrade experience

cess" error. I haven't heard about that but it seems to me as though launchd notices that the new process is in the same process group as a previous one that's died. I suppose that's why it considers the new one a "stray process". A workaround might be to force

Re: [Mailman-Users] Deleting old msgs?

noticed that there are so many dependencies on new features of the mailbox module that it doesn't seem feasible to use Python 2.4. Do you know what the minimum required Python version would be? I suggest you add that info to the script. Cheers, Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZK

Re: [Mailman-Users] Deleting old msgs?

that? I have revised the script and it should now work with all Python versions that are acceptable for Mailman itself. Thanks a lot! -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University -

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.15rc1 released

nd I found this to explain it: mailman-2.1.15rc1]$ grep -r '2\.1\.14' * Mailman/Version.py:VERSION = '2.1.14' ... -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne U

[Mailman-Users] "Uncaught runner exception, No such file or directory" for files in "bounces" directory

bounces. I understand that the "usual" reason for that is an unparseable message, as the logging indicates, but in this case it's apparently a failed open command. Is that a race condition, a purely cosmetic issue, or something that should be fixed? Thanks, Sebastian -- Sebastian

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Uncaught runner exception, No such file or directory" for files in "bounces" directory

--On 25. Juni 2012 08:22:32 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/_4A9>. Oops ... sorry. There was in fact a very old BounceRunner that had somehow survived a restart of Mailman. Thanks, Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zim

[Mailman-Users] Encoding of the new German HTML templates

but as far as I can tell that hasn't happened. I've been wrong before, but I would assume that's a bug? Cheers, Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne Univer

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding of the new German HTML templates

ascii utf8 in 5 of the files, namely: archidxfoot.html archidxhead.html archtoc.html archtocnombox.html emptyarchive.html You are right. I was lazy and just listed all the new ones. I have fixed those and will commit the changes. Thank you! -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52

[Mailman-Users] Bug in SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET feature?

s.platform= linux2 admin(328): [- Environment Variables -] admin(328): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat) admin(328): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/listinfo ... When I looked at line 194 in /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py, I noticed that it handles the SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET feat

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET feature?

--On 18. Dezember 2013 07:04:14 -0800 Mark Sapiro wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:27 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: I installed Mailman 2.1.17 last night (upgrade from 2.1.15) and decided to give the SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET feature a try, since we don't use static subscribe forms. All seemed well

Re: [Mailman-Users] building a new mailman server

t an issue. Cheers Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-470-89578.:. -- Mailman-Us

[Mailman-Users] Discard mystery

I had her send it to me privately and it arrived OK. Is there any way to figure out why Mailman discarded it? Its content is innocuous, so I'd be willing to redirect it to Mark or whoever might be interested in investigating this ... -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäud

Re: [Mailman-Users] Discard mystery

is ... If the above is not the answer, send me the raw message. Will do. Thanks, Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-478-5587.:.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Compile on Mac Leopard - config settings?

Why don't you just stick with Apple's version? -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-478-5587.:. .:.:.:.Skype: shagedorn.:.:.:. pgpS

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman vs OSX vs launchd

mparing the two. -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-478-5587.:. pgpS9zgP1uR7d.pgp Description: PGP signature -

[Mailman-Users] Definition of get_site_email in Utils.py

LMAN_SITE_LIST, hostname) return '%s...@%s' % (mm_cfg.MAILMAN_SITE_LIST, extra, hostname) Shouldn't that use the DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST instead? I fixed our specific problem by hardcoding the return value, but it seems to me that could be a more general issue ... Thanks, Sebastian --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Definition of get_site_email in Utils.py

also need to include after those definitions add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) D'oh! Thanks, Mark, we actually had that, but in the course of the upgrade I messed it up :( The add_virtualhost was placed *before* the definition of the variables ... Thanks for your he

Re: [Mailman-Users] ? how to delete mailing lists

do I delete a mailing list? rmlist -- Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Flachbau), Zi. 18, Robert-Koch-Str. 10 Zentrum für angewandte Informatik - Universitätsweiter Service RRZK Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - Tel. +49-221-478-5587 pgpDohKtWtzEh.pgp Description: PGP sign

[Mailman-Users] Bounce handling for invalid owner adresses

es has accumulated for an owner address. Is something like that in the pipeline? Or is thsi situation too rare to merit the effort? How do other sites handle this situation? Thanks, Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum für angewandte Informatik - U

[Mailman-Users] Old messages in bounces and in

do they end up there? Cheers, Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum für angewandte Informatik - Universitätsweiter Service RRZK .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-478-5587.:.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Old messages in bounces and in

gt; self._switchboard.finish(filebase) > continue > > That won't preserve the entry in the shunt queue, but it will prevent > .bak files from accumulating. Thanks. I've made that change. -- Sebastian H

[Mailman-Users] Messages remain in spool/mailman/in

Update: I just noticed that the number of messages in "in" is decreasing. Could it be that something just overwhelmed Mailman so that now there is a backlog that's slowly being worked through? I don't think we ever had such issues prior to today. Cheers, Sebastian -- .:.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages remain in spool/mailman/in

. Then perhaps a moderator went to the admindb interface, which can keep a list locked for a long time if it is processing a large list of requests. Ah, I wasn't even aware of that. Anyway, they promised not do it like that anymore, so I guess we're fine. Thanks for your help! -- .:

[Mailman-Users] Is it OK to unshunt "bad" messages?

hen delivered to the list. Basically I'm curious why Mailman didn't consider the message "bad" that time around. Is unshunt-processing somehow different from normal processing? Thank, Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum für angewandte

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is it OK to unshunt "bad" messages?

Hi Mark, thanks for your reply. --On 25. April 2008 09:21:12 -0700 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: | | I just noticed a message in the "bad" directory. I looked at it with | show_qfiles and it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is it OK to unshunt "bad" messages?

--On 25. April 2008 10:16:27 -0700 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: | | No, it was a .pck file. I found this entry in the vette log: | | (3438) Message discarded, msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This should have nothing to do with anything in the '

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is it OK to unshunt "bad" messages?

in the interim. Thanks, that makes sense! The list does have content filtering and "preserve" as its filter_action. -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum für angewandte Informatik - Universitätsweiter Service RRZK .:.Universit

[Mailman-Users] Is it possible that a list loses its members?

lain what might have happened. Any ideas? -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum für angewandte Informatik - Universitätsweiter Service RRZK .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-478-5587.:. .:.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is it possible that a list loses its members?

hing. The automatic bounce processing could have unsubscribed them, although I would have thought that the results of that would show up in the "subscribe" log. Yup. But see my next reply. -- Sebastian Hagedorn - Listmaster - RZKR-R1 (Flachbau), Zimmer 18 Zentrum für angewandte Informat

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is it possible that a list loses its members?

-May/020190.html >. So now we have two reports of possible locking failures. We'll have to keep watching. There were instances before where listowner talked of strange phenomena, but there never was any proof. I admit I never believed them ... -- Sebastian Hagedorn - Listmaster - RZKR-

[Mailman-Users] Lists break when "host_name" is removed

Thanks, Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum für angewandte Informatik - Universitätsweiter Service RRZK .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-478-5587.:. .:.:.:.Skype: shagedorn.:.:.:. pgpqoh6tj2zm1.pgp Descri

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists break when "host_name" is removed

Hi Mark, --On 2. Juni 2008 18:22:09 -0700 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: | | every once in a while one of our list owners shoots themselves in the | foot by deleting the value in "host_name". That breaks the list almost | completely. Is there

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists break when "host_name" is removed

ectly. Thank you very much! This withlist mechanism is pretty cool, I must say. -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum für angewandte Informatik - Universitätsweiter Service RRZK .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-478-5587.:.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Scripting List Creation

take it's input from a file? Not exactly, but there's something similar: after your script has executed newlist, it can configure the list from a file using config_list and populate the list from a file using add_members. We have a Perl script that does that. -- .:.Sebastian H

[Mailman-Users] Python 2.2 and mailman > 2.1.9

thon 2.4, but I had been hoping for one last update that supports 2.2 ... Thanks, Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn - Listmaster - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18 Zentrum für angewandte Informatik - Universitätsweiter Service RRZK Universität zu Köln / Colog

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing name of mailman list that I own

es in the new list and because one can always easily remove the old list with bin/rmlist anyway. Thanks for that! We could've used that often in the past and will be able to do so from now on :-) -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Jump from Python 2.4 to 2.7...

munity.org/pub/ius/stable/Redhat/5/$basearch/ enabled=1 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://dl.iuscommunity.org/pub/ius/IUS-COMMUNITY-GPG-KEY Cheers Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121, Zimmer 2.02 Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK) Universität zu Köln / Cologne University

[Mailman-Users] Pending subscription request weirdness

27;, u'Universit\xe4tsklinikum M\xfcnster', 'redacted', 0, 'de')), 'version': (0, 1)} [- end pickle file -] This is Mailman 2.1.18. Any ideas? Cheers Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn -

Re: [Mailman-Users] Pending subscription request weirdness

Hi Mark, On 5/21/16 12:47 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: There is only one Mailman instance in play, and I can actually see the subscription request in /var/lib/mailman/lists/LISTNAME/request.pck. I've been getting the email notification for a few days, but in the GUI there are "

[Mailman-Users] What does "Possible malformed path attack" actually mean?

d it's our own Google Search Appliance (GSA). So far I haven't been able to understand what is going on. I can't find any questionable requests in Apache's access log from the GSA. Any ideas what could be causing this? Thanks Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyert

Re: [Mailman-Users] What does "Possible malformed path attack" actually mean?

--On 12. September 2016 um 18:06:14 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: On 09/12/2016 12:02 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: So far I haven't been able to understand what is going on. I can't find any questionable requests in Apache's access log from the GSA. Any ideas what could be caus

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recipient disabled due to bounces

disabled, by default Mailman keeps sending a few messages to the address to check if it's working again. This is controlled by the bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings setting. -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Regionales Rechenze

Re: [Mailman-Users] Implementing mailman on Apple OS X Sierra via macPorts

one - What do I do for transport and therefore how do I configure Mailman to use it? I am not using OSX server. Do I need to install postfix? Or is there a buried implementation I can turn on? Mit freundlichen Grüßen Sebastian Hagedorn -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 1

Re: [Mailman-Users] Targeted attack against german universities using mailman

same thing could happen again anytime. :-( I have set out most critical lists to emergency moderation, but that's not really practical in the long run. Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZ

Re: [Mailman-Users] Targeted attack against german universities using mailman

e saw were *not* sent to the -owner address, but to the list address using one of the admin addresses for the list in the From:-header. On the MTA level the envelope-from was always www-d...@dreadnoughtpc.com. Cheers Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Z

[Mailman-Users] What happens when public_suffix_list.dat can't be loaded?

izational Domains in the context of DMARC handling. It looks to me as if that doesn't cause any problems, but I thought I'd ask ... Thanks, Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn - Listmaster - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02 Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK) Universität zu Köln / Colog

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

tuning and parameters to reduce the number of pop ups. This is what Mulberry does, which is one of the many reasons I'm still using it even though it's de facto abandonware. -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Regionales Rechenze

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

r the list, and with a modern server duplicates are a non-issue. -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +4

[Mailman-Users] Stuck OutgoingRunner

(ESTABLISHED) In both instances the OutgoingRunner was stuck on an SMTP connection. I had to use "kill -9" to get rid of it. Any ideas what might be causing that? Cheers Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Stuck OutgoingRunner

Thanks for your reply! On 02/02/2018 02:26 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: [root@mailman3/usr/lib/mailman/bin]$ lsof -p 1677 COMMAND    PID    USER   FD   TYPE   DEVICE SIZE/OFF   NODE NAME python2.7 1677 mailman  cwd    DIR    253,0 4096 173998 /usr/lib/mailman python2.7 1677 mailman  rtd

Re: [Mailman-Users] Stuck OutgoingRunner

--On 3. Februar 2018 um 19:13:33 -0800 Mark Sapiro wrote: On 02/03/2018 01:03 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: Did you look at the out queue, and if so was there a .bak file there. This would be the entry currently being processed. I looked at the out queue, and there was no .bak file

Re: [Mailman-Users] Stuck OutgoingRunner

ight be a possible explanation, but what could cause a SIGINT to be sent to the OutgoingRunner? -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne Un

Re: [Mailman-Users] Stuck OutgoingRunner

--On 6. Februar 2018 um 08:01:18 -0800 Mark Sapiro wrote: On 02/06/2018 03:51 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: --On 4. Februar 2018 um 12:54:43 +0900 Yasuhito FUTATSUKI wrote: As far as I read the code, if OutgoingRunner catch SIGINT during waiting for response from the MTA, the signal

Re: [Mailman-Users] Stuck OutgoingRunner

It happened again yesterday. Details below. --On 7. Februar 2018 um 12:43:18 +0900 Yasuhito FUTATSUKI wrote: In fact, On 02/02/18 19:26, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: root@mailman3/usr/lib/mailman/bin]$ strace -p 1677 Process 1677 attached recvfrom(10, ^CProcess 1677 detached indicates the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.x to 3.1.x Migration

ne provide me with a best-practices on how to migrate? I have only migrated a few lists for testing purposes, but at least with Mailman 3.2 you just copy the .pck file and import it like this: $ mailman import21 listname@domain /tmp/config.pck This does not take care of list archives. -- .:

[Mailman-Users] Errors with new version

ailList.py", line 849, in CheckPending admin(7095): op, data = v admin(7095): ValueError: too many values to unpack I have no idea what causes that, and I have not been able to reproduce it. It only seems to happen with a minority of subscribe attempts. Any ideas? Does anybody else see

[Mailman-Users] Re: Errors with new version

Am 13.05.20 um 19:42 schrieb Mark Sapiro: > On 5/13/20 4:48 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> Hi, >> >> we seem to have new entries in the error log. I believe they have only >> started to appear with the recent updates, but I cannot swear to that: >> >> admi

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-2.1.34 with Captcha

and "$" at the end. # An 'en' key must be present and is used as fall-back if there are no # questions for the currently set language. Just uncomment that and add your question/answer pairs. -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:.

[Mailman-Users] Re: Besitzerwechsel und Ähnliches

Clemens Greiner (greinerc) Christine Rath (crath1) Viele Grüße Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn, Listmaster - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-470-89578.:. smime

[Mailman-Users] Should CSRF check disregard case of addresses?

-koeln.de. The only difference is in the case of the email address. I’m no expert on CSRF attacks, but to me it seems as though the comparison should perhaps disregard differences in case only? Thanks, Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02

[Mailman-Users] Re: Should CSRF check disregard case of addresses?

cased email when trying to determine if two list member addresses are the same member is OK. Thanks for the quick fix! -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +4