Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
Hi Brad, Sorry to bother again. We have looked through the Defaults.py and
perform searches on the Internet and tried different options in the
mm_cfg.py, including the one in the
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node36.html. We are still getting the
generic subject line (confirm aad5624d316c46234928426cb4a6c57c691d0e7c) for
list subscription confirmation email.
We have compared the Email confirmation message between our list using
Mailman 2.1.5 and the Mailman-Users list using Mailman 2.1.9rc1 and noticed
that the only difference is the From: and Reply-To: are not subsituted
with the confirm address and cookie but instead have the request address
(please see below). Apparently, this is working on Mailman-users list, can
you send me the mm_cfg.py and defaults.py so I can see if there is something
we are missing (of course, I understand there may be some differences in
them due to newer version).
Several questions we also have are:
1. Does Mailman automatically subsitute the Subject: with a friendly one
when VERP_CONFIRMATIONS is set to Yes.
2. Where does Mailman get the friendly subject line?
3. Is there something special we need to set in the Qmail configuration?
If anyone else have any suggestions, please advise. Thanks.
==
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Your confirmation is required to join the Mailman-Users mailing
list
Reply-To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9rc1
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: confirm aad5624d316c46234928426cb4a6c57c691d0e7c
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Sincerely,
Jimmy
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:45 PM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Cc: 'Brad Knowles'
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
Hi Brad, Thanks for the reply. We did an update of Mailman in RedHat ES 3
and now Mailman is version 2.1.5.1-25. However, we are still getting the
generic subject line (confirm aad5624d316c46234928426cb4a6c57c691d0e7c) for
list subscription confirmation email. Attached is the mm_cfg.py we used.
Can you or other Mailman experts take a quick look at it and let us know if
we are doing something wrong? Or Are we missing some other configuration
option in the Mailman Admin GUI or elsewhere?
Many Thanks,
Jimmy
Contents of mm_cfg.py:
This module contains your site-specific settings.
From a brand new distribution it should be copied to mm_cfg.py. If you
already have an mm_cfg.py, be careful to add in only the new settings you
want. Mailman's installation procedure will never overwrite your mm_cfg.py
file.
The complete set of distributed defaults, with documentation, are in the
file Defaults.py. In mm_cfg.py, override only those you want to change,
after the
from Defaults import *
line (see below).
Note that these are just default settings; many can be overridden via the
administrator and user interfaces on a per-list or per-user basis.
###
# Here's where we get the distributed defaults.
from Defaults import *
import pwd, grp
##
# Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
##
#Here's where we override shipped defaults with settings #
#suitable for the RPM package. #
MAILMAN_UID = pwd.getpwnam('mailman')[2]
MAILMAN_GID = grp.getgrnam('mailman')[2]
LOG_DIR = '/var/log/mailman'
QUEUE_DIR = '/var/spool/mailman/qfiles'
##
#IMPORTANT! - You must set these domain names! #
#
# Mailman needs to know about (at least) two fully-qualified domain # names
(fqdn) # # 1) the hostname used in your urls (DEFAULT_URL_HOST) # 2) the
hostname used in email addresses for your domain (DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) # #
For example, if people visit your Mailman system with #
http://www.dom.ain/mailman; then your url fqdn is www.dom.ain, # and if
people send mail to your system via [EMAIL PROTECTED] then # your email
fqdn is dom.ain. DEFAULT_URL_HOST controls the former, # and
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST controls the latter. Mailman also needs to # know how to
map from one to the other (this is especially important # if you're running
with virtual domains). You use # add_virtualhost(urlfqdn, emailfqdn) to
add new mappings.
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mm_cfg_has_not_been_edited_to_set_host_domains'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mm_cfg_has_not_been_edited_to_set_host_domains'
# Because we've overriden the virtual hosts above add_virtualhost # MUST be
called after they have been defined.
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes
add_virtualhost('mlists.xyz.com')
# Set to enable VERP-like (more user friendly) confirmations
VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
At 12:57 PM -0500 2006-09-12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brad, Sorry to bother again. We have looked through the Defaults.py and perform searches on the Internet and tried different options in the mm_cfg.py, including the one in the http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node36.html. We are still getting the generic subject line (confirm aad5624d316c46234928426cb4a6c57c691d0e7c) for list subscription confirmation email. That documentation node is specific to qmail. I don't recall -- are you using qmail or some other MTA? Several questions we also have are: 1. Does Mailman automatically subsitute the Subject: with a friendly one when VERP_CONFIRMATIONS is set to Yes. With all the appropriate VERP and personalization stuff turned on, I believe it does. But, as you've discovered, this is dependant on which specific version of Mailman you're using, and if you're not seeing this in 2.1.5, then I'd suggest you upgrade. In fact, since there were security holes in 2.1.5, I'd suggest you upgrade anyway. Recently, there have been security holes found in 2.1.8, which is why we're working on getting 2.1.9 out the door as quickly as possible. There is a 2.1.9rc1 tarball that is already available, and if you're going to be doing an upgrade anyway, you might as well jump to the latest source that is believed to be reasonably secure. 2. Where does Mailman get the friendly subject line? It builds it internally. 3. Is there something special we need to set in the Qmail configuration? I'm not 100% certain how all this plays out in the qmail environment, but I believe that at least these parts should work the same no matter what -- assuming you're using the right version of Mailman. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
Hi Brad, Thanks for the reply. We did an update of Mailman in RedHat ES 3
and now Mailman is version 2.1.5.1-25. However, we are still getting the
generic subject line (confirm aad5624d316c46234928426cb4a6c57c691d0e7c) for
list subscription confirmation email. Attached is the mm_cfg.py we used.
Can you or other Mailman experts take a quick look at it and let us know if
we are doing something wrong? Or Are we missing some other configuration
option in the Mailman Admin GUI or elsewhere?
Many Thanks,
Jimmy
Contents of mm_cfg.py:
This module contains your site-specific settings.
From a brand new distribution it should be copied to mm_cfg.py. If you
already have an mm_cfg.py, be careful to add in only the new settings you
want. Mailman's installation procedure will never overwrite your mm_cfg.py
file.
The complete set of distributed defaults, with documentation, are in the
file Defaults.py. In mm_cfg.py, override only those you want to change,
after the
from Defaults import *
line (see below).
Note that these are just default settings; many can be overridden via the
administrator and user interfaces on a per-list or per-user basis.
###
# Here's where we get the distributed defaults.
from Defaults import *
import pwd, grp
##
# Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
##
#Here's where we override shipped defaults with settings #
#suitable for the RPM package. #
MAILMAN_UID = pwd.getpwnam('mailman')[2]
MAILMAN_GID = grp.getgrnam('mailman')[2]
LOG_DIR = '/var/log/mailman'
QUEUE_DIR = '/var/spool/mailman/qfiles'
##
#IMPORTANT! - You must set these domain names! #
#
# Mailman needs to know about (at least) two fully-qualified domain # names
(fqdn) # # 1) the hostname used in your urls (DEFAULT_URL_HOST) # 2) the
hostname used in email addresses for your domain (DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) # #
For example, if people visit your Mailman system with #
http://www.dom.ain/mailman; then your url fqdn is www.dom.ain, # and if
people send mail to your system via [EMAIL PROTECTED] then # your email
fqdn is dom.ain. DEFAULT_URL_HOST controls the former, # and
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST controls the latter. Mailman also needs to # know how to
map from one to the other (this is especially important # if you're running
with virtual domains). You use # add_virtualhost(urlfqdn, emailfqdn) to
add new mappings.
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mm_cfg_has_not_been_edited_to_set_host_domains'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mm_cfg_has_not_been_edited_to_set_host_domains'
# Because we've overriden the virtual hosts above add_virtualhost # MUST be
called after they have been defined.
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes
add_virtualhost('mlists.xyz.com')
# Set to enable VERP-like (more user friendly) confirmations
VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes
===
-Original Message-
From: Brad Knowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
At 4:20 PM -0500 2006-09-05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Does the VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes only works on certain version
of Mailman? We have Mailman version 2.1.1-5, Python 3.0.4-0.1, and
Qmail
(1.03-rhel3) and have set the setting as suggested; but we are still
getting
the generic subject line for list subscription confirmation email.
Looking through the source, Mailman 2.1.5 mentions this option, but
I've having trouble using Subversion to figure out precisely when
this was introduced. I know that the code around this option has
changed more than once, but that's about all I can tell you right now.
I can tell you that the latest current version right now is version
2.1.8, and 2.1.9 will be released very soon. 2.1.9rc1 is out now,
and we're already running it on python.org. There are some important
security fixes coming with 2.1.9, so I highly recommend that you get
this version for your site as soon as it is available.
--
Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
-- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755
Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/.
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
At 4:20 PM -0500 2006-09-05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does the VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes only works on certain version of Mailman? We have Mailman version 2.1.1-5, Python 3.0.4-0.1, and Qmail (1.03-rhel3) and have set the setting as suggested; but we are still getting the generic subject line for list subscription confirmation email. Looking through the source, Mailman 2.1.5 mentions this option, but I've having trouble using Subversion to figure out precisely when this was introduced. I know that the code around this option has changed more than once, but that's about all I can tell you right now. I can tell you that the latest current version right now is version 2.1.8, and 2.1.9 will be released very soon. 2.1.9rc1 is out now, and we're already running it on python.org. There are some important security fixes coming with 2.1.9, so I highly recommend that you get this version for your site as soon as it is available. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
At 11:38 PM 7/22/2004, Mark Sapiro wrote: Toby Reiter wrote: set VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes in mm_cfg.py. Read about it in Defaults.py I would also like to implement this but all that I have read says VERP requires cooperation from the MTA. I am using the latest ver of Postfix. What do I have to do to make VERP and Postfix work together? Tim -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
Speedy Gonzalis wrote: I would also like to implement this but all that I have read says VERP requires cooperation from the MTA. I am using the latest ver of Postfix. What do I have to do to make VERP and Postfix work together? I don't know if any specific configuration is required with postfix or how to do it if it is, but the basic requirement is that an incoming message to your site (i.e. the reply to a confirmation) which is addressed in the form [EMAIL PROTECTED] be delivered as if it were addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I.e. the + is special and everything starting with + up to but not including @ is ignored in figuring where to deliver the mail. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
On 22 Jul 2004, at 21:38, Mark Sapiro wrote: VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes Does this take affect immediately, or do I have to do something to the mm_cfg.py file after I do this? Restart mailman? Anything? -- The older you get the more you need the people you knew when you were young. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
At 11:46 PM -0400 2004-07-22, Toby Reiter wrote: Thank you SO much. I wasn't expecting an answer so soon, AND one that was so simple and effective. Yup. Better than mine. This one needs to go into the FAQ, too. My only question would be why this isn't disabled by default?! The subject line is so much more to the point, unambiguous, and user friendly. Also from the Defaults.py file: # For nicer confirmation emails, use a VERP-like format which encodes the # confirmation cookie in the reply address. This lets us put a more user # friendly Subject: on the message, but requires cooperation from the MTA. # Format is like VERP_FORMAT above, but with the following substitutions: Specifically, note that part about needing support from the MTA. Not all MTAs support VERP by default, but now that Mailman 2.1.5 will automatically VERP all addresses used for bounce management handled through the site-wide mailing list, maybe this should also be turned on by default. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
At 8:38 PM -0700 2004-07-22, Mark Sapiro wrote: set VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes in mm_cfg.py. I created http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.052.htp based on this thread. This is a much better answer than telling people to hack the source code Thanks! -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
At 12:40 AM -0600 2004-07-23, LuKreme wrote: VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes Does this take affect immediately, or do I have to do something to the mm_cfg.py file after I do this? Restart mailman? Anything? You'd need to restart mailman. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
On 23 Jul 2004, at 02:50, Brad Knowles wrote: I created http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.052.htp based on this thread. This is a much better answer than telling people to hack the source code Changing local configuration in mm_cfg.py is not hacking the source code -- No man is free who is not master of himself -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
At 4:46 AM -0600 2004-07-23, LuKreme wrote: On 23 Jul 2004, at 02:50, Brad Knowles wrote: I created http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.052.htp based on this thread. This is a much better answer than telling people to hack the source code Changing local configuration in mm_cfg.py is not hacking the source code No, it's not. My original response was that I wasn't aware of anything simple that could be done, and that the OP could choose to hack the source code. Mark came up with a much better answer, which I was complimenting him for. I was also informing him that I took his answer and put it into the FAQ, albeit with some minor changes. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
At 10:50 +0200 7/23/04, Brad Knowles wrote: At 8:38 PM -0700 2004-07-22, Mark Sapiro wrote: set VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes in mm_cfg.py. I created http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.052.htp based on this thread. This is a much better answer than telling people to hack the source code Brad, Thanks a lot for adding this to the FAQ. I should probably look at the full FAQ anyway, just to see if there are some issues I'm neglecting. Have a great day, Toby -- Toby Reiter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Breezing Internet Communications http://www.breezing.com 1106 West Main Stphone:434.295.2050 Charlottesville, VA 22903fax:603.843.6931 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
At 20:38 on 22-7-04, Mark Sapiro wrote: VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes in mm_cfg.py. Sorry if I'm making a basic mistake, but I have made the above change (and only that change), issued a 'mailmanctl restart' (as the mailman user) and my confirmation emails still come back with a subject of 'confirm a770f863f985baab6ca801f4ffe11291818c6422'. The reply-to, sender, and from headers are also still generic. I then tried 'mailmanctl stop' followed by 'mailmanctl start', but no luck. Do I need to change any list settings to enable this? Thanks for any help. It sounds like a useful feature! Cheers, Jolin -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
Jolin M Warren wrote: At 20:38 on 22-7-04, Mark Sapiro wrote: VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes in mm_cfg.py. Sorry if I'm making a basic mistake, but I have made the above change (and only that change), issued a 'mailmanctl restart' (as the mailman user) and my confirmation emails still come back with a subject of 'confirm a770f863f985baab6ca801f4ffe11291818c6422'. The reply-to, sender, and from headers are also still generic. I then tried 'mailmanctl stop' followed by 'mailmanctl start', but no luck. Do I need to change any list settings to enable this? Thanks for any help. It sounds like a useful feature! In Mailman 2.1.4 at least, it only works for invitations, not other confirmations. See http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg07285.html and http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg07330.html for more on this and a patch -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
Toby Reiter wrote: This has been asked here before, but is there any way to modify the Subject of the invite message? confirm aad5624d316c46234928426cb4a6c57c691d0e7c is a DEAD WRINGER for spam, and is likely to be deleted by many of our users. I don't want to be a bad net citizen and automatically subscribe users to this list, but the majority of the people who receive the invitation will want to join (it's for health services trainings through a non-profit they've already done trainings with, working with the CDC, etc.). But I fear many will miss out on this invitation for a list they really want to be on, thinking the message is spam. If the message had a welcome text, like An Invitation to Join the Foo List I think people would probably read it. set VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes in mm_cfg.py. Read about it in Defaults.py -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
At 20:38 -0700 7/22/04, Mark Sapiro wrote: Toby Reiter wrote: This has been asked here before, but is there any way to modify the Subject of the invite message? confirm aad5624d316c46234928426cb4a6c57c691d0e7c is a DEAD WRINGER for spam, and is likely to be deleted by many of our users. I don't want to be a bad net citizen and automatically subscribe users to this list, but the majority of the people who receive the invitation will want to join (it's for health services trainings through a non-profit they've already done trainings with, working with the CDC, etc.). But I fear many will miss out on this invitation for a list they really want to be on, thinking the message is spam. If the message had a welcome text, like An Invitation to Join the Foo List I think people would probably read it. set VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes in mm_cfg.py. Read about it in Defaults.py -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan Mark, Thank you SO much. I wasn't expecting an answer so soon, AND one that was so simple and effective. My only question would be why this isn't disabled by default?! The subject line is so much more to the point, unambiguous, and user friendly. Thanks again, Toby -- Toby Reiter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Breezing Internet Communications http://www.breezing.com 1106 West Main Stphone:434.295.2050 Charlottesville, VA 22903fax:603.843.6931 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line on Invite Messages
Toby Reiter wrote: At 20:38 -0700 7/22/04, Mark Sapiro wrote: set VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes in mm_cfg.py. Read about it in Defaults.py Mark, Thank you SO much. I wasn't expecting an answer so soon, AND one that was so simple and effective. My only question would be why this isn't disabled by default?! The subject line is so much more to the point, unambiguous, and user friendly. It isn't the default because some MTAs can't handle the the addressing format. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
