Re: [MlMt] Gmail source is unavailable

2016-05-09 Thread Gary Hull
On 10 May 2016, at 4:10, Adam Liter wrote: Since getting home and since connecting to a few other networks, I have continued to be unable to get MailMate to access Gmail via IMAP. It continually says that it is unavailable. You can use telnet via a terminal window or telnet app to test IMAP.

Re: [MlMt] Gmail source is unavailable

2016-05-09 Thread Adam Liter
Hmm, doing openssl s_client -connect imap.gmail.com:imaps seems to work just fine. I did also try your suggestion of explicitly specifying port 993, and that seems to fix the problem. I'm not sure why I now need to specify it since I've never had to do so in the past. Thanks for the suggestion!

Re: [MlMt] Gmail source is unavailable

2016-05-09 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
If you're doing 'telnet imap.gmail.com imap' you're trying for the unencrypted IMAP port. I don't think Google supports that. Asking for 993 or the imaps protocol gets the encrypted version -- but you can't comprehensibly talk to that port via telnet. Try openssl s_client -connect

Re: [MlMt] Gmail source is unavailable

2016-05-09 Thread Adam Liter
Sorry for sending a couple of emails in a row, but it seems that this is actually the behavior that I'm seeing: $ telnet imap.gmail.com 993 Trying 2607:f8b0:4001:c08::6c... Connected to gmail-imap.l.google.com. Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. So, unlike I said in the

Re: [MlMt] Error message

2016-05-09 Thread Howard Wettstein
Relining does not help. Here’s the situation and the sequence of steps: I have lots of folders and subfolders; it’s a gmail account but through my university and the address is ho...@ucr.edu I had been using Apple Mail, but I much prefer your program. I’m just learning as I go. Sequence of

Re: [MlMt] Gmail source is unavailable

2016-05-09 Thread Adam Liter
Actually, it seems that telnet imap.gmail.com 993 actually works for me to connect, whereas telnet imap.gmail.com imap just hangs. So perhaps the port forwarding on my laptop has somehow been messed up for just Gmail? I don't know much about this, so I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks again!

Re: [MlMt] Gmail source is unavailable

2016-05-09 Thread Adam Liter
Hmm, interesting. With telnet imap.gmail.com imap everything just seems to hang, but when I try, for example, telnet mail.riseup.net imap everything seems to work fine. Thanks for this initial suggestion for help with debugging. Do you have any further idea what the problem might be? -Adam Liter

[MlMt] Gmail source is unavailable

2016-05-09 Thread Adam Liter
Hello, I was recently out of the country, and the hotel that I was at had a very restrictive internet connection. They more or less blocked everything except HTTP(S), so I was not able to use MailMate with IMAP. Since getting home and since connecting to a few other networks, I have continued

[MlMt] Column customization works intermittantly

2016-05-09 Thread Benjamin Coddington
Hi list, I'm new here. I'm using MailMate 1.9.4 (5234), and it is very helpful for me to be able view a column that shows either a message's list-id header, or a concatenation of some headers from bugzilla. I do that with the following file: ~/Library/Application

Re: [MlMt] 3 (little?) setup errors

2016-05-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 7 May 2016, at 5:17, Bill Cole wrote: As far as I know (and I manage multiple multi-tenant mail systems) no other mailer in existence sends event invites/updates like that, however it does make a certain logical sense, unlike most of the ways Microsoft has sent events around in the past.

Re: [MlMt] 3 (little?) setup errors

2016-05-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 6 May 2016, at 20:03, Mike Petonic wrote: I'm getting little errors when I run MailMate from iTerm. I'm wondering if there are quick fixes or if I have something elementary wrong with my setup. Worst case, would I have to blow away my ~/Library/Application Support/MailMail library and