Re: [MlMt] Status: Gmail authentication issues

2016-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
Hi everybody, I've gotten surprisingly little feedback on this problem (for some users it has simply disappeared) and I've got no example logs yet (logs as described in the original message further below). One hint is a user reporting that MailMate did not update the keychain with new

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 2 Sep 2016, at 19:46, Zivago Lee wrote: As mentioned, I did do this yesterday.. yet you said you did not receive them (it got sent to mm-feedback@). I'll just open a bug ticket with the attachment it made. That's fine too, but you are also welcome to try the `mm-feedback` address again.

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Zivago Lee
As mentioned, I did do this yesterday.. yet you said you did not receive them (it got sent to mm-feedback@). I'll just open a bug ticket with the attachment it made. On 2 Sep 2016, at 10:36, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 2 Sep 2016, at 17:11, Zivago Lee wrote: Yes, it's in my Sent folder of

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 2 Sep 2016, at 19:11, Richard Rettke wrote: On 2 Sep 2016, at 2:08, Gary Hull yh82d7...@yandex.com wrote: I moved all of my accounts from Google to Runbox and (if hosted there) Pair. For throwaway free accounts I made new ones at AOL and Yandex. Life is so much simpler now. Thanks for

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 2 Sep 2016, at 17:11, Zivago Lee wrote: Yes, it's in my Sent folder of my other regular IMAP account (that works properly). Got a direct email? I can reforward them? I would prefer a new set of logs as described in this email to the mailing list:

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Richard Rettke
On 2 Sep 2016, at 2:08, Gary Hull yh82d7...@yandex.com wrote: I moved all of my accounts from Google to Runbox and (if hosted there) Pair. For throwaway free accounts I made new ones at AOL and Yandex. Life is so much simpler now. Thanks for the info Gary, Runbox looks promising. If it

Re: [MlMt] Suddenly HTML

2016-09-02 Thread Paul Sture
On 2 Sep 2016, at 13:01, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 2 Sep 2016, at 12:34, Paul Sture wrote: Yes, Markdown is now enabled by default, but you can disable it in the Composer preferences pane. But yesterday's update, to Version 1.9.5 (5260) in my case, didn't alter the previous Markdown

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Kee Hinckley
No problems for me over the night. I'm running Version 2.0BETA (6054) On 1 Sep 2016, at 8:58, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 17:30, Kee Hinckley wrote: On 31 Aug 2016, at 12:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: It also indicates that MailMate is not to blame, but that doesn't really

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Paul Sture
On 2 Sep 2016, at 9:13, Richard Rettke wrote: On 2 Sep 2016, at 2:08, Gary Hull yh82d7...@yandex.com wrote: Why deal with companies that treat you like a hacker and criminal and have no personal support? What is your time worth? The main reason I stay with gmail is that I have never found

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Zivago Lee
Yes, it's in my Sent folder of my other regular IMAP account (that works properly). Got a direct email? I can reforward them? On 2 Sep 2016, at 0:36, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:58, Zivago Lee wrote: Weird.. it should have sent to the mm-feedback@ address. Is the email

Re: [MlMt] The preview window got prudent

2016-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 2 Sep 2016, at 13:08, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: It was to early to celebrate: the behaviour is instable. Sorry, let me know if you find a reproducible case and send me the steps off list. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list

Re: [MlMt] Suddenly HTML

2016-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 2 Sep 2016, at 12:34, Paul Sture wrote: Yes, Markdown is now enabled by default, but you can disable it in the Composer preferences pane. But yesterday's update, to Version 1.9.5 (5260) in my case, didn't alter the previous Markdown setting, which was off for me. Sorry about the

Re: [MlMt] Suddenly HTML

2016-09-02 Thread Paul Sture
On 2 Sep 2016, at 9:44, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 2 Sep 2016, at 0:07, Seebs wrote: So apparently what actually caused some of the strangeness is that markdown was turned on-by-default in the recent patch, maybe? And that means that if I send markdown, suddenly HTML happens. But I can go

Re: [MlMt] The preview window got prudent

2016-09-02 Thread Vlad Ghitulescu
On 1 Sep 2016, at 15:05, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 12:44, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: Since upgrading to Version 1.9.5 (5255) I've observed that the Markdown preview-window doesn't appear automatically under the message when coming back from BBEdit (which I use - via the

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 2 Sep 2016, at 9:08, Richard Rettke wrote: On 2 Sep 2016, at 1:53, Scott A. McIntyre mailm...@howyagoin.net wrote: After upgrading to the latest beta, and re-authenticating all of my accounts, the prompts have gone away. This may be a clue (or it may be nothing). I just installed and

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Gary Hull
I moved all of my accounts from Google to Runbox and (if hosted there) Pair. For throwaway free accounts I made new ones at AOL and Yandex. Life is so much simpler now. Gmail gets hammered by all kinds of hacking schemes, so Google uses a high-false-positive algorithm. Any kind of forwarding

Re: [MlMt] Hide "Default" Mailboxes

2016-09-02 Thread Pedro Lobo
Thanks for the reply Benny. Not a deal breaker, but just wanted to check. > On 02 Sep 2016, at 08:42, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > > On 1 Sep 2016, at 23:19, Pedro Lobo wrote: > >> Been AWOL for a while and finally decided to return to our beloved MailMate. >> Having

[MlMt] Change default "from" email address behaviour

2016-09-02 Thread vinc...@acheson.uk.com
For my use case, Mailmate’s default behaviour of deciding the sender email account based on the addressee email account is causing repeated problems: Mailmate’s choice is not always what I expect, and I don’t realise the problem until after sending. Is there a configuration options which would

Re: [MlMt] Devonthink

2016-09-02 Thread Thomas Grundberg
2016-09-02 kl 10:13 skrev Howard Wettstein: What's the best way to get started with DT? It looks formidable. There are some good tutorials at the support pages of the Devon Technologies [website](http://www.devontechnologies.com). Also, there is a [Take Control

Re: [MlMt] Devonthink

2016-09-02 Thread Howard Wettstein
Thanks, Sean, for that. What's the best way to get started with DT? It looks formidable. Howie Sean Johnson September 1, 2016 at 7:19 PM I’m also a happy DEVONThink (and MailMate) user, and even more so since recently migrating from Evernote. Just wanted to mention

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 2 Sep 2016, at 7:46, Kee Hinckley wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 12:56, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: A general update: I've gotten a report which indicates that I might not be able to blame Google for all problems. At least it appears that MailMate some times does not successfully save tokens in

Re: [MlMt] Status: Gmail authentication issues

2016-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 2 Sep 2016, at 9:37, Richard Rettke wrote: On 2 Sep 2016, at 2:31, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailingl...@freron.com wrote: based on the number of emails during the night about Gmail authentication issues then I'm now going to assume this is a MailMate issue. Possibly a new issue or something

Re: [MlMt] Suddenly HTML

2016-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 2 Sep 2016, at 0:07, Seebs wrote: So apparently what actually caused some of the strangeness is that markdown was turned on-by-default in the recent patch, maybe? And that means that if I send markdown, suddenly HTML happens. But I can go back to plain text, and then it's okay. Yes,

Re: [MlMt] Hide "Default" Mailboxes

2016-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 1 Sep 2016, at 23:19, Pedro Lobo wrote: Been AWOL for a while and finally decided to return to our beloved MailMate. Having used a plethora of simpler email clients, I’ve become accustomed to a little less visual clutter, in particular with regard to mailboxes in the sidebar. I can’t quite

Re: [MlMt] Status: Gmail authentication issues

2016-09-02 Thread Richard Rettke
On 2 Sep 2016, at 2:31, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailingl...@freron.com wrote: based on the number of emails during the night about Gmail authentication issues then I'm now going to assume this is a MailMate issue. Possibly a new issue or something that got worse when I tried to fix it after the

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:58, Zivago Lee wrote: Weird.. it should have sent to the mm-feedback@ address. Is the email in your Sent Messages folder? (Maybe it's stuck in Drafts due to the Gmail issue which likely also affects SMTP.) In any case, see my most recent post on the list with regard to

[MlMt] Status: Gmail authentication issues

2016-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
Hi everybody, based on the number of emails during the night about Gmail authentication issues then I'm now going to assume this is a MailMate issue. Possibly a new issue or something that got worse when I tried to fix it after the first reports (before the 1.9.5 beta was released). I'll do

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Richard Rettke
On 2 Sep 2016, at 2:08, Gary Hull yh82d7...@yandex.com wrote: Why deal with companies that treat you like a hacker and criminal and have no personal support? What is your time worth? I'm not familiar with some of those email vendors you mentioned so I'll have to check them out. The main

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Richard Rettke
On 2 Sep 2016, at 1:53, Scott A. McIntyre mailm...@howyagoin.net wrote: After upgrading to the latest beta, and re-authenticating all of my accounts, the prompts have gone away. This may be a clue (or it may be nothing). I just installed and activated a VPN, a little over an hour before

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Scott A. McIntyre
Hi, On 2 September 2016, at 1646, Richard Rettke wrote: On 30 Aug 2016, at 21:02, Kee Hinckley k...@hinckley.com wrote: I've had MailMate ask for my password in four of my Google Apps accounts (three of them two-factor) a total of at least 8 times today. Has anyone else had any issues?

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

2016-09-02 Thread Richard Rettke
On 30 Aug 2016, at 21:02, Kee Hinckley k...@hinckley.com wrote: I've had MailMate ask for my password in four of my Google Apps accounts (three of them two-factor) a total of at least 8 times today. Has anyone else had any issues? I've been watching this thread since it started and feeling