[MlMt] Tabbed composing window ?

2015-06-08 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
It's not Over yet but just noticed in keynote new apple mail will have tabs in 
its composer windows. 

And that is used with full screen mode making it finally useful :)

Can mailmate allow tabs in compose window ? :)

/max
http://about.me/maxandersen

___
mailmate mailing list
mailmate@lists.freron.com
http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate


[MlMt] Folder preferences reset with recent Dev/Beta (at least 5095)

2015-06-08 Thread Scott A. McIntyre

Hi,

Likely if you're using the latest beta or so, you've discovered this, 
but, all of the Folder View preferences have been lost somewhere in one 
of the last 5-6 developer/test/beta updates.  I was away for a week, 
updated, and it looks like most folders are sitting with Thread mode 
enabled, different columns, in different orders, and 
ascending/descending preferences have been reset.


Not sure if that was intended behaviour; seems unlikely...

Cheers,
Scott


___
mailmate mailing list
mailmate@lists.freron.com
http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate


[MlMt] Is there a setting or way to remove the Header info from from the attachment when doing Forward as Attachment

2015-06-08 Thread MailMate
I use an email forwarding service and never give my real email address 
to anyone. I would like to use Forward as Attachment but I see that it 
embeds the From:, To:, Subject:  Date: headers at the top of the 
attachment. The To: header includes my real address, so I especially 
need to remove the To: header. Is there a setting or file I can modify 
to make this happen?


I looked around the help but nothing caught my eye.

__*Richard Rettke*__
*Laus Deo*
*Non sibi sed patriae*
___
mailmate mailing list
mailmate@lists.freron.com
http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate


Re: [MlMt] SubjectCopying messages

2015-06-08 Thread Thomas Eckhold
Invoke the Move to … command (CMD-ALT-T), select the target mailbox 
and then hit return while holding the option key (ALT) down. That will 
copy the message rather than moving.


Regards,

Thomas

On 8 Jun 2015, at 3:24, Pascal Felber wrote:


Hi,

I might be missing something obvious, but how can I copy a message to 
an IMAP mailbox (vs. just moving it)? I found the selector 
(copyToMailbox:) but it seems there is no default menu item nor 
documented shortcut. I'd like to avoid having to use the mouse and 
option-dragging.


Thanks,

Pascal
___
mailmate mailing list
mailmate@lists.freron.com
http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
___
mailmate mailing list
mailmate@lists.freron.com
http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate


Re: [MlMt] Any way to prevent auto-correcting two spaces after a period to one?

2015-06-08 Thread Gary Hull
Well, I did say it was a can of worms. Let's discuss the positioning of 
periods and commas relative to quotation marks instead.


On 8 Jun 2015, at 12:46, Eric A. Meyer wrote:

I'll offer my own but of insight: Butterick is right that it doesn't 
matter.  I just wish he and those who follow his view would take that 
advice to heart, and stop demonstrating to all and sundry that it 
really does matter to them.



On 7 Jun 2015, at 23:21, Ben Klebe wrote:

I can only offer this shrewd bit of insight from Matthew 
Butterick’s excellent Practical Typography: 
http://practicaltypography.com/one-space-between-sentences.html





I know that many peo­ple were taught to put two spaces be­tween 
sen­tences. I was too. But these days, us­ing two spaces is an 
ob­so­lete habit. Some say the habit orig­i­nated in the 
type­writer era. Oth­ers be­lieve it be­gan ear­lier. But guess 
what? It doesn’t mat­ter. Be­cause ei­ther way, it’s not part 
of to­day’s ty­po­graphic prac­tice.



Sincerely,


Ben Klebe

On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Gary Hull yh82d7...@yandex.com 
wrote:



On 8 Jun 2015, at 9:40, Eric A. Meyer wrote:

On 7 Jun 2015, at 20:16, Gary Hull wrote:


On 8 Jun 2015, at 2:44, Ben Klebe wrote:

The autocorrect is system-wide in Cocoa text fields. To change 
it,
go to System Preferences - Keyboard - Text and uncheck 
“Correct
spelling automatically.” Strangely though I can’t replicate 
this

behavior and furthermore why would you want two spaces after a
period?


Please don't open that can of worms on the mailing list!:


…he said, and then wrenched the can open further.

You noticed that, huh? :-)

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html

Although I agree: two spaces after a period should have died with
manual monospace typewriters.


You and Manjoo are wrong: the wider post-sentence spacing was not a
quirky, transient artifact of typewriters or monospace fonts, but 
has

literal centuries of precedent and tradition behind it:

http://www.heracliteanriver.com/?p=324
I worked in my middle school's print shop for a year setting lead 
type

from a California case and redistributing the pi, so I know the
traditions, and have read all the old pre-ITC typography books that 
are

only available on ABE.com these days. I later worked as a graphic
designer in a shop that went through the whole range of 
phototypography
from hand-spaced display type to self-contained Compugraphic 
machines to
Agfa-Compugraphic front-ends to Postscript imagesetters. Not to 
mention

IBM Selectric Composers with Adrian Frutiger-designed fonts on
9-to-the-em grids.
The point of books written for compositors is to teach compositors 
what

to do. Writers didn't typeset their own books. Spacing decisions are
made by the compositor, based on the font in use, the leading, and 
the
particular letter pair. Today the function of the compositor has 
been
taken over by the combination of the type designer and the 
particular
system in which the font is realized (such as Postscript), which has 
all
sorts of intelligence built into it, and additional intelligence 
built

into the publishing software that drives the output (imagesetter or
digital display). Again, the writer shouldn't be trying to force 
design
factors like that in his manuscript (although click-to-publish 
bloggers
have to assume some design responsibility). Fonts are no longer made 
of
lead, you can kern without brass spacers, and you can negatively 
kern
without filing off the lead corners of the font. The way that type 
looks
today is the way that skilled typographers want it to work, and the 
best
of them have simply better taste than the past masters. Old books 
just
look blotchy to modern eyes, although they are beautiful as 
historical

objects.
At any rate, double spacer should know that publishers these days 
have

regex routines that manuscripts get run through, fixing things like
initial and trailing spaces and high-bit ASCII, and that /\w+/\w/ or 
the

like is built into such routines. So good luck getting double spaces
into print at a proper publisher.
There was a period, I'll say mostly in the 1960s, 1970s, but also a 
bit

before and after, when many low-budget publications, including many
academic and scientific publications, published photographically 
reduced
typed manuscripts. In other words, cheap typesetting was not 
available
yet, and they couldn't afford typesetting. In these cases the style 
that
writers had to follow specified Elite or Courier, double 
spacing

(two returns on the typewriter), the width of margins, the number of
lines per page, manual justification (with double spaces to 
accomplish
that, or half spaces, which some typewriters could handle, such as 
some
Olympias), and so on. Universities had typing pools that could 
produce
such manuscripts: They functioned as the typetting departments of 
these
low-budget journals. In such manuscripts double spacing was often 
used
after periods and other 

Re: [MlMt] Any way to prevent auto-correcting two spaces after a period to one?

2015-06-08 Thread Muster Hans

On 8 Jun 2015, at 7:53, John Purnell wrote:


Steve Losh eloquently puts forward the case for 2 spaces:

http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/why-i-two-space/



Nice find, thanks.

Coincidentally I had a similar autocorrect problem with EagleFiler just 
yesterday.  You can switch off autocorrection in OS X Preferences but 
EagleFiler will still apply its own conversions (so-called Smart Quotes  
and Smart Dashes etc), which most definitely isn't what you want when 
using it to stash shell commands or snippets of code.


In EagleFiler you can switch these off in Edit - Substitutions.
___
mailmate mailing list
mailmate@lists.freron.com
http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate


Re: [MlMt] Colors on subjects

2015-06-08 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 8 Jun 2015, at 15:13, kee...@thebrocks.net wrote:

So when I'm scanning through the Work from home messages, I can 
visually
distinguish message to the whole company from messages on my local 
team's

mailing list.

Do imap tags get me this?


They are the best you can do. Setup a rule to tag company messages with 
e.g. `Company`. Then enable the “Tags” column in the messages 
outline. If you use the emoji variant and assign an emoji to the tag in 
the Tags preferences pane then you could use this for your company 
messages:  :-)


I hope this helps.

--
Benny
___
mailmate mailing list
mailmate@lists.freron.com
http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate


Re: [MlMt] SubjectCopying messages

2015-06-08 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 8 Jun 2015, at 15:26, John Cooper wrote:


Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote (at 6:17 on 8 Jun 2015):


On 8 Jun 2015, at 14:28, David Green wrote:


On 8 Jun 2015, at 2:16, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

Shouldn't the Move to Mailbox heading change to Copy to Mailbox 
when the option key is pressed?


That would be nice, but it's non-trivial to implement (monitoring 
modifier keys). Well, that just means it's not a standard GUI feature 
and I haven't tried looking into implementing it myself :-)


I notice it happens in the MailMate menu. Doesn't that mean it's 
provided by Cocoa, or some such framework?


For menu items it's provided by Cocoa, but in this case it's about the 
window title.


There is currently no way to trigger a “Copy to Mailbox” window 
using a menu shortcut, but that might be better than (or an addition to) 
the current solution (which was a quick stop-gap solution). It could, 
e.g., be bound to ⌃⌥⌘T.


--
Benny
___
mailmate mailing list
mailmate@lists.freron.com
http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate


Re: [MlMt] SubjectCopying messages

2015-06-08 Thread David Green

On 8 Jun 2015, at 2:16, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

Invoke the Move to … command (CMD-ALT-T), select the target 
mailbox and then hit return while holding the option key (ALT) down. 
That will copy the message rather than moving.


Interesting, I had forgotten this.  Shouldn't the Move to Mailbox 
heading change to Copy to Mailbox when the option key is pressed?

___
mailmate mailing list
mailmate@lists.freron.com
http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate


Re: [MlMt] SubjectCopying messages

2015-06-08 Thread John Cooper

Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote (at 6:17 on 8 Jun 2015):


On 8 Jun 2015, at 14:28, David Green wrote:


On 8 Jun 2015, at 2:16, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

Shouldn't the Move to Mailbox heading change to Copy to Mailbox 
when the option key is pressed?


That would be nice, but it's non-trivial to implement (monitoring 
modifier keys). Well, that just means it's not a standard GUI feature 
and I haven't tried looking into implementing it myself :-)


I notice it happens in the MailMate menu. Doesn't that mean it's 
provided by Cocoa, or some such framework?

___
mailmate mailing list
mailmate@lists.freron.com
http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate


[MlMt] Colors on subjects

2015-06-08 Thread kee...@thebrocks.net
Hi All,

I have a smart mailbox to show all company mailing list items together.
I also have a smart mailbox to show Work From Home requests.

But as you might imagine, those are not orthogonal.

I was hoping to visually mark the company mailing list items with something
like the tagging function in the finder.

So when I'm scanning through the Work from home messages, I can visually
distinguish message to the whole company from messages on my local team's
mailing list.


Do imap tags get me this?
I also couldn't find any color type tweaks.


Thanks for any insight / pointers.
Keenan
___
mailmate mailing list
mailmate@lists.freron.com
http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate


Re: [MlMt] SubjectCopying messages

2015-06-08 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 8 Jun 2015, at 14:28, David Green wrote:


On 8 Jun 2015, at 2:16, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

Invoke the Move to … command (CMD-ALT-T), select the target 
mailbox and then hit return while holding the option key (ALT) down. 
That will copy the message rather than moving.


Interesting, I had forgotten this.  Shouldn't the Move to Mailbox 
heading change to Copy to Mailbox when the option key is pressed?


That would be nice, but it's non-trivial to implement (monitoring 
modifier keys). Well, that just means it's not a standard GUI feature 
and I haven't tried looking into implementing it myself :-)


--
Benny
___
mailmate mailing list
mailmate@lists.freron.com
http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate


Re: [MlMt] date condition mismatches

2015-06-08 Thread Shoshanna Green
Today I have another instance of the issue I described a month ago (as 
well as it still persisting in the smart mailbox I created last month): 
a message was sent this morning and arrived this morning, June 8, but 
MailMate does not find it in a smart mailbox if the date condition on 
that mailbox is set to exactly 6/8/2015. Instead, it finds it if the 
date condition is set to exactly 6/7/2015.


I'm now running r5095, still under Mavericks.

On 6 May 2015, at 13:31, Shoshanna Green wrote:

I'm creating a smart mailbox that should contain, among other 
messages, some that I received today (Wednesday 6 May). I've set up 
conditions that include


ALL of the following are true:
• Any Address contains [the relevant address]
• Subject contains [the relevant word]
• Date is exactly 5/6/2015

However, this doesn't find the messages in question. Experimenting, I 
discovered that if I changed the Date condition to is exactly 
5/5/2015 — yesterday — it finds the messages I want it to; they 
dutifully appear in the smart mailbox, with the Date Received column 
showing Today and the messages themselves showing May 6, 2015 in 
their headers.


Anybody know what's going on? (I'm running MailMate r5084, the latest 
version, but this machine is still running 10.9.5 Mavericks, in case 
that might be relevant…?)



Shoshanna Green
shoshan...@gmail.com
___
mailmate mailing list
mailmate@lists.freron.com
http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate