Re: [MlMt] Is there an easy way to exclude all subfolders when they are many, approx 150 or more?
On 19 Apr 2018, at 14:28, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: But I also need to see ONLY all the e-mails that is NOT yet filtered in any of the 150 Smart folders. I know that I can choose to filter ”None of a certain subfolder”. I think you need a missing feature here. Interestingly, mailboxes support a display count open named “Include Submailboxes”. What you need is an option for a smart mailbox to simply show the emails of the submailboxes. You could then use this mailbox in your “None of” filter. I would love to have a feature when a smart mailbox would automatically include all the mailboxes that are defined within it. Sort of reverse of the current submailboxes feature. I have a few such mailboxes and I keep forgetting to add new submailboxes in the list of the parent one. For example, I have a smart mailbox that contains a series of smart mailboxes with various mailing lists. It would be great if I could just add a new submailbox for a new mailing list and the parent mailbox would automatically include it. Such feature would be fantastic when I move submailboxes between different parents, which requires me to remove it from one list and add it to another list. Way too easy to forget or make a mistake. Robert___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Still confused about how Threads work
On 19 Apr 2018, at 15:34, Eric Sharakan wrote: On 19 Apr 2018, at 8:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 17 Apr 2018, at 21:29, Eric Sharakan wrote: I'm running r5472. I still think something's not right with how threads work. For the inbox of my corporate account, I have "View->Organize by Thread" selected. Yet I see messages in the same thread that are not being grouped together. If I look at one such message, and select the "Thread" toolbar button, then I see the other two messages in the thread, and can verify by looking at the details of the search that they all have "Thread-id is 111476". So why aren't they grouped together in my regular inbox view? Because MailMate only shows parent-child relationships. It might know that 2 messages belong to the same thread, but if there are any missing links between them in the current mailbox then they are not shown together. Okay, this explains it. In these cases, I've either deleted unimportant messages in the middle of the thread, or my responses (sitting in my Sent folder) make up part of the thread. For the latter case, I've found that if I select both my inbox & sent mailboxes, then MM finds the parent-child relationships. This is a side effect of the hierarchical strict threading used by MailMate. This is also the main reason that “group threading” has been on my todo forever. Some day... Please add my vote for this "some day" to be sooner rather than later... And another vote … I find this a particular problem because I’m on a club committee where we have a committee@… address that expands at the server to all of us. The first reply-all goes to the originator as themselves, plus committee@… which includes the originator. Something seems to limit this to three copies of every email, but someone’s reply can be from any of the three. If I delete the ‘wrong’ duplicate I get a gap in the thread. (Add to this the fact that I have two function based entries in the committee@… expansion, collected from two different IMAP logins on the same server, and I soon get confused). David ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Suddenly Outline Column switched
With Revision 5476 the effect disappeared. On 19 Apr 2018, at 14:58, Tobias Kirchhofer wrote: All of a sudden in my inboxes the outline column switched to „To“. Adding and using „From“ as outline column does switch back to „To“ after visiting the Inbox again. defaults delete com.freron.MailMate - no change. What could be the cause? -- Tobias Kirchhofer tob...@kirchhofer.net ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- Tobias Kirchhofer tob...@kirchhofer.net ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Searching and reading thread of found email
This layout view is a hatchet job, but it works. For each selected
message, it brings automatically brings up both the thread and all
correspondence with the correspondent. Just be sure to set the font
small enough on the thread and correspondence windows, select the
columns that make sense (for the correspondence, I use subject and date;
and for thread, I use from and date). It doesn't clear the search field,
like you wanted, but it does give you immediate access to the info you
need, without messing with the from field.
Z
On 19 Apr 2018, at 15:43, Filip Stokkeland wrote:
Hi!
When I search and find an interesting message, I'd like to read the
other emails in that thread.
But if I clear the search field, the email I found and had selected,
it disappears.
... Something obvious I'm missing? How can I just jump to the thread
of the selected email, clearing the search?
Mailmate rocks! :)
--
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name = "Three Panes + Corr + Thread";
rootViewer =
{
viewerType = "MmSplitView";
orientation = "horizontal";
children =
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{
viewerType = "MmSplitView";
orientation = "vertical";
collapsibleSubview = 2; // Incomplete support
-- no way to get it back (1 = first, 2 = last)
children =
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viewerType = "MmBoxView";
orientation = "vertical";
toggleMenuTitle = "Mailboxes";
toggleKeyEquivalent = "^~@d";
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identifier = "ThreadAndCorrSplit";
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way to get it back (1 = first, 2 = last)
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must be contained by a MmBoxView)
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label = "Correspondence";
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// and the recipient of the message(s)
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[MlMt] Searching and reading thread of found email
Hi! When I search and find an interesting message, I'd like to read the other emails in that thread. But if I clear the search field, the email I found and had selected, it disappears. ... Something obvious I'm missing? How can I just jump to the thread of the selected email, clearing the search? Mailmate rocks! :) -- Filip ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Is there a way to keep all threads expanded?
And another one! On 19 Apr 2018, at 17:38, Topher Ayrhart wrote: >> Make that two additional requests … ;-) > > Three. > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Is there a way to keep all threads expanded?
> Make that two additional requests … ;-) Three. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Is there a way to keep all threads expanded?
Benny, I would like to have MailMate auto-expand threads by default. [ … ] I cannot think of any way to achieve this with current features. I do have a todo item for this and I'll note that I've got an additional request for it. Make that two additional requests … ;-) Cheers Ian ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Not marked as Read when answering an e-mail
Hi, I have noticed that when I answer an e-mail, the e-mail is still marked as Unread. I have the preference ”Marked messages read after x seconds” Unchecked. I prefer to manually mark e-mails as Unread. But, when I answer an e-mail I would like them to be marked as Unread. Is there some preference that I have missed regarding answered e-mails? Mvh Mats -- Mats Lindroos mats.lindr...@telia.com 070-606 00 30 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Still confused about how Threads work
On 19 Apr 2018, at 8:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 17 Apr 2018, at 21:29, Eric Sharakan wrote: I'm running r5472. I still think something's not right with how threads work. For the inbox of my corporate account, I have "View->Organize by Thread" selected. Yet I see messages in the same thread that are not being grouped together. If I look at one such message, and select the "Thread" toolbar button, then I see the other two messages in the thread, and can verify by looking at the details of the search that they all have "Thread-id is 111476". So why aren't they grouped together in my regular inbox view? Because MailMate only shows parent-child relationships. It might know that 2 messages belong to the same thread, but if there are any missing links between them in the current mailbox then they are not shown together. Okay, this explains it. In these cases, I've either deleted unimportant messages in the middle of the thread, or my responses (sitting in my Sent folder) make up part of the thread. For the latter case, I've found that if I select both my inbox & sent mailboxes, then MM finds the parent-child relationships. This is a side effect of the hierarchical strict threading used by MailMate. This is also the main reason that “group threading” has been on my todo forever. Some day... Please add my vote for this "some day" to be sooner rather than later... Thanks. -Eric -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] blocking external images on messages moved out of junk folder
No, I have not seen this again, though I encounter very few false positive messages that I need to manually mark as not junk. -Eric On 19 Apr 2018, at 7:25, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 11 Apr 2018, at 14:56, Eric Sharakan wrote: Hi, I marked a message that was placed in my junk folder (SpamSieve score of 73) as not junk. It was moved to the appropriate inbox, but when I went to read it there, it had the banner saying it had blocked 3 external references. It also said the message was marked as not junk. I was surprised to see that banner. I switched mailboxes and then when I went back to look at the message a few minutes later, the banner was gone and the message displayed normally. That does sound like a bug. Is it reproducible? -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Is there an easy way to exclude all subfolders when they are many, approx 150 or more?
On 19 Apr 2018, at 14:28, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 19 Apr 2018, at 11:18, Mats Lindroos wrote: Is there an easy way to exclude all smart (sub)folders when they are many, approx 150 or more? I have approx 150 Smart folders that I filter in different ways. That is quite a lot :) Are you sure you couldn't use, e.g., the “Submailboxes” feature to handle some of this? But I also need to see ONLY all the e-mails that is NOT yet filtered in any of the 150 Smart folders. I know that I can choose to filter ”None of a certain subfolder”. I think you need a missing feature here. Interestingly, mailboxes support a display count open named “Include Submailboxes”. What you need is an option for a smart mailbox to simply show the emails of the submailboxes. You could then use this mailbox in your “None of” filter. I'm afraid I cannot think of any workaround for that right now. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate Hi, If 150 folders is many or not I am not the one to comment. That´s how my e-mail world looks like;) When I used POP I hade rules that moved the e-mails to a folder. In that case, the e-mail was not seen in any other folder. That´s the same ”function” I now want to achieve. You mention Submailboxes feature. I tried to attach a pdf (215k) to show how my structure looks like, but the mail-list didn´t accept a picture that size. Otherwise maybe it would have been easier to understand if I can use Submailboxes or not. Mvh Mats -- Mats Lindroos mats.lindr...@telia.com 070-606 00 30 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Suddenly Outline Column switched
All of a sudden in my inboxes the outline column switched to „To“. Adding and using „From“ as outline column does switch back to „To“ after visiting the Inbox again. defaults delete com.freron.MailMate - no change. What could be the cause? -- Tobias Kirchhofer tob...@kirchhofer.net ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] mailmate Digest, Vol 85, Issue 18
On 15 Apr 2018, at 18:36, Bernard Bel wrote: MailMate does not download some messages from the reception box of my Gmail account. Currently the box contains 1343 messages, which I believe is reasonable. MailMate downloads via Imap. You mean the “INBOX”? Yes I cannot see a regularity in this process. Messages coming from the same sender or mailing list may or may not be skipped for no apparent reason. The problem gets worse when I browse the mailbox on my iPhone. Almost (but not all) messages I have viewed are skipped by MM. I do not delete them! They are still visible on the Gmail interface. Flagging them as “important” does not improve their fate. And you don't archive them or anything like that? No, the missed messages have not even been opened on Gmail (or iPhone). Try using “Edit Subscriptions” in the IMAP account settings of MailMate and then enable “[Gmail]/All Mail”. I have just done it. The All Mail checkbox wasn’t checked and it might be the source of the problem. The best resource for how Gmail is handled in MailMate is [here](http://manual.mailmate-app.com/account_setup#gmail). If this doesn't help then I'll help you debug the issue, but I think we should do it off the mailing list. If you have a reproducible case then try this: * Open the Activity Viewer (⌥⌘0). This enables logging. * Do whatever is needed to observe that a message is not showing up in MailMate. * Use “Help ▸ Send Server Logs”. If it happens again I will do my best to isolate a reproducible case. Thanks! Bernard Bel Thanks in advance. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Two ways threads expand
I bind the semicolon key to operations that are intended to expand the current thread and select the first message in the thread: ";" = ( "expandThread:", "rootOfThread:" ); In practice, I find that sometimes this opens the thread without changing the mail list view (as I expect) and sometimes the view changes to search result view, where messages that are not in the thread are hidden. I haven't been able to figure out why. Can anyone explain? Thanks, John___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Is there an easy way to exclude all subfolders when they are many, approx 150 or more?
On 19 Apr 2018, at 11:18, Mats Lindroos wrote: Is there an easy way to exclude all smart (sub)folders when they are many, approx 150 or more? I have approx 150 Smart folders that I filter in different ways. That is quite a lot :) Are you sure you couldn't use, e.g., the “Submailboxes” feature to handle some of this? But I also need to see ONLY all the e-mails that is NOT yet filtered in any of the 150 Smart folders. I know that I can choose to filter ”None of a certain subfolder”. I think you need a missing feature here. Interestingly, mailboxes support a display count open named “Include Submailboxes”. What you need is an option for a smart mailbox to simply show the emails of the submailboxes. You could then use this mailbox in your “None of” filter. I'm afraid I cannot think of any workaround for that right now. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] blocking external images on messages moved out of junk folder
On 11 Apr 2018, at 14:56, Eric Sharakan wrote: Hi, I marked a message that was placed in my junk folder (SpamSieve score of 73) as not junk. It was moved to the appropriate inbox, but when I went to read it there, it had the banner saying it had blocked 3 external references. It also said the message was marked as not junk. I was surprised to see that banner. I switched mailboxes and then when I went back to look at the message a few minutes later, the banner was gone and the message displayed normally. That does sound like a bug. Is it reproducible? -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate ignores messages in Gmail
On 15 Apr 2018, at 18:36, Bernard Bel wrote: MailMate does not download some messages from the reception box of my Gmail account. Currently the box contains 1343 messages, which I believe is reasonable. MailMate downloads via Imap. You mean the “INBOX”? I cannot see a regularity in this process. Messages coming from the same sender or mailing list may or may not be skipped for no apparent reason. The problem gets worse when I browse the mailbox on my iPhone. Almost (but not all) messages I have viewed are skipped by MM. I do not delete them! They are still visible on the Gmail interface. Flagging them as “important” does not improve their fate. And you don't archive them or anything like that? Try using “Edit Subscriptions” in the IMAP account settings of MailMate and then enable “[Gmail]/All Mail”. The best resource for how Gmail is handled in MailMate is [here](http://manual.mailmate-app.com/account_setup#gmail). If this doesn't help then I'll help you debug the issue, but I think we should do it off the mailing list. If you have a reproducible case then try this: * Open the Activity Viewer (⌥⌘0). This enables logging. * Do whatever is needed to observe that a message is not showing up in MailMate. * Use “Help ▸ Send Server Logs”. Thanks in advance. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Still confused about how Threads work
On 17 Apr 2018, at 21:29, Eric Sharakan wrote: I'm running r5472. I still think something's not right with how threads work. For the inbox of my corporate account, I have "View->Organize by Thread" selected. Yet I see messages in the same thread that are not being grouped together. If I look at one such message, and select the "Thread" toolbar button, then I see the other two messages in the thread, and can verify by looking at the details of the search that they all have "Thread-id is 111476". So why aren't they grouped together in my regular inbox view? Because MailMate only shows parent-child relationships. It might know that 2 messages belong to the same thread, but if there are any missing links between them in the current mailbox then they are not shown together. This is a side effect of the hierarchical strict threading used by MailMate. This is also the main reason that “group threading” has been on my todo forever. Some day... -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Is there a way to keep all threads expanded?
On 8 Apr 2018, at 23:04, Mike Hucka wrote: I would like to have MailMate auto-expand threads by default. I know there's a way to assign a key to expandAll: (and I do), but what I'm looking for is a way to always have them expanded (or to put it another way, to never have threads collapsed automatically). Is there a way to achieve this, perhaps by a clever trick to perform an expand-all-after-get-new-mail or some like that? I cannot think of any way to achieve this with current features. I do have a todo item for this and I'll note that I've got an additional request for it. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] getting told I have 2 unsent messages but nothing in outbound
On 11 Apr 2018, at 13:46, Annamarie wrote: How do I find those 2 messages since I'm not inclined to just say "Yes" to send them as not sure whats actually in them ;) Ditto - though in my case it's just one message. Been meaning to write in about that. You can try selecting the “All Messages” mailbox and then enable the “Pending Submission” column. Sort by this column to see if you can find anything suspicious. If you do find it then note anything interesting about it before deleting it. (I'd like to know how these messages came into existence.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Setting up OAuth2 based accounts
On 19 Apr 2018, at 10:21, Filip Stokkeland wrote: Setting up OAuth2 based IMAP accounts like GMail, Outlook.com, Yahoo etc., it's required to import it from Mail.app? (The OAuth2 checkbox doesn't show up if I just select "Add IMAP Account...") Or am I missing something? :) You need to enter the IMAP and/or SMTP hostnames before MailMate shows the OAuth2 checkbox. Note that MailMate only supports it for Gmail and outlook.com. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Another error with the IETF IMAP server
On 14 Apr 2018, at 17:51, Paul Hoffman wrote: Greetings. I have another problem on the same IMAP mail server I reported earlier. This time, I deleted all the messages in my "Deleted Messages" folder which, in retrospect, was probably a bit over-aggressive. Now, again, I'm unable to take it online. When I try, I get: MailMate encountered the following error: “Server response: “K9 NO UID Internal Error”. Command attempted: “K9 UID EXPUNGE 5110”.”. Mailbox: “Shared Folders/smime”. How can I either undo my earlier action or make MailMate not care? I am running 1.11.1. You might be able to select the problematic messages and then use “Message ▸ Cancel Delete”. I also think MailMate should be able to automatically offer you to do this in the next test release (at least it worked in a quick test with the IETF server). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Surprising behavior when editing rules
On 7 Apr 2018, at 17:03, Topher Buck wrote: I’m still running Yosemite (10.10.5), and I have noticed the same (unexpected, unwanted) behavior. I have since upgraded to High Sierra and I'm still not seeing this issue. Could someone on High Sierra provide me with exact steps to reproduce this? Preferably starting with a relaunch and then starting a search using “View ▸ Find ▸ Mailbox Search”. Thanks in advance. -- Benny On 6 Apr 2018, at 10:50, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 4 Apr 2018, at 2:23, Randall Gellens wrote: When editing a mailbox rule, if I change the condition, the match text also changes, which seems unexpected. And it is unexpected. It doesn't seem to happen for me though, but it might be an issue on High Sierra or I'm missing a step to trigger this behavior. I'll note to check on High Sierra. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] [Feature request] Switcher to toggle unread notifications
I am just wondering if this feature would even make sense but I’ll try to explain. I have Mailmate installed both on work & home computers with identical account setup. While at work I like to get focused only on work email account. This includes notification sound plus dock & menu bar notifications. It would be nice if I could quickly toggle the setting for displaying notification and sound for specific email account. I can imagine some sort of global shortcut but quick menu item to toggle this would be sufficient. Maybe there’s other way to do this? (I know I could probably script this and will do it if there’s no other way). Have a nice day, Ondřej Synáček ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Is there an easy way to exclude all subfolders when they are many, approx 150 or more?
Hi, Is there an easy way to exclude all smart (sub)folders when they are many, approx 150 or more? I have approx 150 Smart folders that I filter in different ways. But I also need to see ONLY all the e-mails that is NOT yet filtered in any of the 150 Smart folders. I know that I can choose to filter ”None of a certain subfolder”. But when I have as many it ́s almost impossible to keep track of all these in the function “None of the following mailboxes”. As I once in a while add new Smart folders it ́s not easy to always keep up with the manually adding it to the list of “None of the following mailboxes”. If anyone have a better idea, or if I have missed some good function, that would solve this more automatically I would be very thankful. Regards Mats -- Mats Lindroos mats.lindr...@telia.com 070-606 00 30 ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Setting up OAuth2 based accounts
Hi! Setting up OAuth2 based IMAP accounts like GMail, Outlook.com, Yahoo etc., it's required to import it from Mail.app? (The OAuth2 checkbox doesn't show up if I just select "Add IMAP Account...") Or am I missing something? :) -- Filip ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
