Re: [MlMt] Password popup box

2021-12-09 Thread Ian Petersen

Benny,

Somehow MailMate misinterprets a repeated error as a possible password 
issue (server are not always good at telling the email client exactly 
what the problem is). First try updating to the latest beta of 
MailMate (in the Software Update preferences pane).


For what it’s worth I have experienced similar issues (on Runbox) on 
and off for the last couple of years (always using latest beta). MM 
throws a wobbly for a few minutes or an hour, but it always seems to go 
back to normal again after a while.



Cheers
Ian
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Re: [MlMt] CPU around 60% with r5852

2021-12-09 Thread Florian Heidenreich
On 9 Dec 2021, at 18:17, Bill Cole wrote:

> On 2021-12-09 at 10:43:18 UTC-0500 (Thu, 09 Dec 2021 16:43:18 +0100)
> Florian Heidenreich 
> is rumored to have said:
>
>> I'm observing high CPU usage of around ~60% CPU on a MacBook Air M1 under 
>> Big Sur 11.6.1 when doing nothing with MailMate r5852.
>>
>> My observations so far:
>>
>> - does not happen when starting MailMate
>> - starts after sending an email or reading a couple of messages from my inbox
>> - stops and goes to 0% when hiding MailMate via Cmd+H, reappears on unhide
>> - something related to updating the view when it's actually not always 
>> needed?
>>
>> Would be interesting to know if it's only happening for me or if it's a more 
>> common problem.
>
> I run into MM chewing up CPU occasionally after moving a message into Trash 
> or Junk. When this happens, the Activity Viewer shows one IMAP session 
> trapped in a very fast loop of FETCH and NOOP commands. I  have not tried 
> hide/unhide, but offline/online of the source breaks the loop. I've had a 
> ticket open on this for quite a long time.
>
> When you have this problem, have you checked the Activity Viewer?

Yes, I've checked the Activity Viewer in MailMate: everything is IDLE there.

Thanks!

Kind regards
— Florian
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Re: [MlMt] CPU around 60% with r5852

2021-12-09 Thread Bill Cole

On 2021-12-09 at 10:43:18 UTC-0500 (Thu, 09 Dec 2021 16:43:18 +0100)
Florian Heidenreich 
is rumored to have said:

I'm observing high CPU usage of around ~60% CPU on a MacBook Air M1 
under Big Sur 11.6.1 when doing nothing with MailMate r5852.


My observations so far:

- does not happen when starting MailMate
- starts after sending an email or reading a couple of messages from 
my inbox
- stops and goes to 0% when hiding MailMate via Cmd+H, reappears on 
unhide
- something related to updating the view when it's actually not always 
needed?


Would be interesting to know if it's only happening for me or if it's 
a more common problem.


I run into MM chewing up CPU occasionally after moving a message into 
Trash or Junk. When this happens, the Activity Viewer shows one IMAP 
session trapped in a very fast loop of FETCH and NOOP commands. I  have 
not tried hide/unhide, but offline/online of the source breaks the loop. 
I've had a ticket open on this for quite a long time.


When you have this problem, have you checked the Activity Viewer?

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[MlMt] CPU around 60% with r5852

2021-12-09 Thread Florian Heidenreich
I'm observing high CPU usage of around ~60% CPU on a MacBook Air M1 
under Big Sur 11.6.1 when doing nothing with MailMate r5852.


My observations so far:

- does not happen when starting MailMate
- starts after sending an email or reading a couple of messages from my 
inbox
- stops and goes to 0% when hiding MailMate via Cmd+H, reappears on 
unhide
- something related to updating the view when it's actually not always 
needed?


Would be interesting to know if it's only happening for me or if it's a 
more common problem.


Kind regards
— Florian

P.S. I've tried to create a ticket, but the system automatically marks 
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Re: [MlMt] Password popup box

2021-12-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 7 Dec 2021, at 18:10, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:

Why is this happening? I have many email accounts. The ones that are 
on my domain names are all managed by SiteGround. Sometimes several 
times a day, sometimes not for many days, I will suddenly get popups 
to enter the password for the account. Here’s a 
[screenshot.](https://www.dropbox.com/s/kpy03yafvmlt1in/Popup%20Password.png?dl=0). 
 It’s mainly just annoying as the password autocompletes and I can 
just hit okay, but I guess I’d like to understand why it’s 
happening now and wasn’t before. I did change the server address 
thinking that might be the issue.


Somehow MailMate misinterprets a repeated error as a possible password 
issue (server are not always good at telling the email client exactly 
what the problem is). First try updating to the latest beta of MailMate 
(in the Software Update preferences pane).


If it still happens then open the Activity Viewer (⌥⌘0) and keep it 
open (this enables logging). After you see the issue then use “Help 
▸ Send Server Logs” and I'll see if MailMate could behave 
differently given how it fails.


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Re: [MlMt] MailMate release notes

2021-12-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 8 Dec 2021, at 14:12, Eric Sharakan wrote:

Hi, as someone who tends to download the latest test release 
regularly, I'm finding the restructuring of release notes not at all 
helpful.  First, it's nigh impossible to learn what's changed in each 
test release. Second, the new outline format reminds me more of a 
functional spec than release notes.


You are jumping to conclusions here :)

I have not changed how the release notes work in general. Each test 
release will still include only what happened in that specific test 
release. The exception has just been a few of the latest test releases 
in which a lot of the actual work has been to rewrite the release notes 
since the latest public release. It would, of course, be easier to just 
have included everything from all test release notes, but I wouldn't be 
surprised if far more than 50% of the content would have been fixes to 
bugs introduced *after* the latest public release (which are irrelevant 
to most users).


Going forward, there will be new test releases and those will be summed 
up in another beta release. Likewise, when ready for a public release 
I'll likely rewrite the beta release notes.


It's not ideal, but most of the time you'll get your short test release 
notes. And thanks for trying the test releases!


Finally, the length is simply unmanageable.  There's no way I can 
scroll through all that to see what's actually changed.  I know a lot 
has changed since the last public release, but I fear even users not 
on test releases are going to be overwhelmed by these release notes as 
written when the next public release occurs.


Yes, but there's not really much I can do about that... It would be 
worse if they got the non-rewritten notes.


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Re: [MlMt] MailMate width

2021-12-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 8 Dec 2021, at 18:24, Esteban Umerez wrote:

> I think that every time I use markdown and the preview pane opens, the width 
> grows bigger.
>
> Is it a bug or am I doing something wrong?

Definitely sounds like a bug. I don't have any issues with this feature myself 
now, but it's not unlikely that there are still bugs with certain patterns of 
use. I've had issues with this feature in earlier test releases.

Could you experiment a bit and then write me via Help > Send Feedback with any 
observations you might have with regard to what reproduces the issue (when the 
window size grows).

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