Re: [MlMt] Tags in r5460

2018-03-06 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 5 Mar 2018, at 18:13, Eric Sharakan wrote:

I suspect I requested those warnings to be suppressed.  But now I want 
those warnings back. :-)  How do I reset that preference?


defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmSuppressCreateTagAlert

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Re: [MlMt] Tags in r5460

2018-03-05 Thread Eric Sharakan

On 5 Mar 2018, at 11:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 5 Mar 2018, at 17:27, Eric Sharakan wrote:

Yes, as I noted, I do now have both TODO & Todo in my preference 
pane. I'm pretty sure the "Todo" variant didn't exist before I 
updated to r5460. So my first concern is how it got added; perhaps 
we might not be able to get to the bottom of that?


MailMate has an auto-create feature to easily create new tags (which 
is triggered when entering an unknown tag name). It shows a 
“warning” sheet the first time which can then be suppressed if the 
user tells it to do so.


Check the Tags preferences pane to make sure you only have the 
`TODO` variant.


Are you saying I should remove the "Todo" variant from my Tags 
preference pane?


Yes.

I'm hesitant to do that; what will happen to any messages that are 
tagged with either "TODO" or "Todo"?  I want things like they were in 
r5443: all such messages show as "TODO", with the associated 
emoticon.  What I _really_ don't want is all messages with the "Todo" 
tag to lose the tag altogether.


That won't happen. The “Tags” preferences is just a mapping 
between tag display names and IMAP keywords. Removing such a mapping 
does *not* clear the corresponding IMAP keyword of the involved 
messages.


Thanks, I've removed the "Todo" tag from the preferences pane, but 
something's definitely still not right.  Newly tagged messages do now 
correctly show the "TODO" tag in the header (with the associated 
emoticon - yay), but in the smart mailbox I use to track tagged 
messages, I still see only "Todo", not "TODO".  There, I still see only 
"Todo", and it includes the message I just tagged as "TODO".


Then there's the mystery of how all my previously "TODO" tagged messages 
seemingly changed from to "Todo".  Or did they?  Is there some way for 
me to see the raw IMAP keyword of those messages?  Maybe this is MM 
confusion, and the tags really didn't change from "TODO" to "Todo"?


Thanks.

-Eric



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Re: [MlMt] Tags in r5460

2018-03-05 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 5 Mar 2018, at 17:27, Eric Sharakan wrote:

Yes, as I noted, I do now have both TODO & Todo in my preference 
pane. I'm pretty sure the "Todo" variant didn't exist before I 
updated to r5460. So my first concern is how it got added; perhaps we 
might not be able to get to the bottom of that?


MailMate has an auto-create feature to easily create new tags (which is 
triggered when entering an unknown tag name). It shows a “warning” 
sheet the first time which can then be suppressed if the user tells it 
to do so.


Check the Tags preferences pane to make sure you only have the `TODO` 
variant.


Are you saying I should remove the "Todo" variant from my Tags 
preference pane?


Yes.

I'm hesitant to do that; what will happen to any messages that are 
tagged with either "TODO" or "Todo"?  I want things like they were in 
r5443: all such messages show as "TODO", with the associated emoticon. 
 What I _really_ don't want is all messages with the "Todo" tag to 
lose the tag altogether.


That won't happen. The “Tags” preferences is just a mapping between 
tag display names and IMAP keywords. Removing such a mapping does *not* 
clear the corresponding IMAP keyword of the involved messages.


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Re: [MlMt] Tags in r5460

2018-03-05 Thread Eric Sharakan

On 5 Mar 2018, at 10:10, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 2 Mar 2018, at 17:55, Eric Sharakan wrote:

I used mixed case tags a ton; some are all lower case, some all 
upper, and some a mix.  I haven't seen this issue with other tags 
yet, but it seems like it's certainly possible for this to occur on 
my other tags.


Thanks for any help you can offer.


Based on your description I'm thinking you might have more than 1 tag 
defined for todo-items.


Yes, as I noted, I do now have both TODO & Todo in my preference pane.  
I'm pretty sure the "Todo" variant didn't exist before I updated to 
r5460.  So my first concern is how it got added; perhaps we might not be 
able to get to the bottom of that?


But even with both versions now in place, shouldn't MM simply treat them 
as wholly separate tags?  It's certainly not doing that; as I said, any 
attempt to tag a message with "TODO" results in the "Todo" tag being 
applied instead.  Worse, all my messages previously (and successfully) 
tagged "TODO" now show with "Todo" in the header.


Check the Tags preferences pane to make sure you only have the `TODO` 
variant.


Are you saying I should remove the "Todo" variant from my Tags 
preference pane?  I'm hesitant to do that; what will happen to any 
messages that are tagged with either "TODO" or "Todo"?  I want things 
like they were in r5443: all such messages show as "TODO", with the 
associated emoticon.  What I _really_ don't want is all messages with 
the "Todo" tag to lose the tag altogether.


Thanks.

-Eric



If that doesn't help then send me your `Tags.plist` file off list:

~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Tags.plist

Then I'll see if I can reproduce what you describe.

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Re: [MlMt] Tags in r5460

2018-03-05 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 2 Mar 2018, at 17:55, Eric Sharakan wrote:

I used mixed case tags a ton; some are all lower case, some all upper, 
and some a mix.  I haven't seen this issue with other tags yet, but it 
seems like it's certainly possible for this to occur on my other tags.


Thanks for any help you can offer.


Based on your description I'm thinking you might have more than 1 tag 
defined for todo-items. Check the Tags preferences pane to make sure you 
only have the `TODO` variant.


If that doesn't help then send me your `Tags.plist` file off list:

~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Tags.plist

Then I'll see if I can reproduce what you describe.

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[MlMt] Tags in r5460

2018-03-02 Thread Eric Sharakan
Hi Benny, I see that r5460 tries to address the tag completion issue I 
had previously reported (ticket 1913).  Unfortunately, something's still 
wonky with case sensitivity of tags.  Before upgrading from r5443, I had 
a "TODO" tag, with an associated emoticon defined.  But after upgrading, 
somehow, I now have both "TODO" and "Todo" tags in my preference pane.  
I _think_ what happened was that I typed "TO" and then just hit return 
twice without looking at how the tag got completed.  For some reason it 
completed as "Todo" rather than "TODO".  That's my best guess anyway.


But it gets odder.  All my existing "TODO" tags seemingly got converted 
to "Todo", and any new "TODO" tags I attempt to create instead get 
created as "Todo".  Both "TODO" and "Todo" are offered as completions, 
but regardless of which one I select, I end up with "Todo".


In addition to the (minor) inconvenience of nit preserving case, this 
means the emoticon I created for "TODO" is not utilized.


I used mixed case tags a ton; some are all lower case, some all upper, 
and some a mix.  I haven't seen this issue with other tags yet, but it 
seems like it's certainly possible for this to occur on my other tags.


Thanks for any help you can offer.

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