Re: [MlMt] mailmate on the dock

2016-08-16 Thread Richard Rettke

On 16 Aug 2016, at 4:44, Alexandre Takacs a.tak...@augicom.ch  wrote:

FWIW I have seen it a few times with MM and indeed to my recollection 
it is the only app exhibiting this. But fairly minor issue anyway.


I have seen this on occasion with other 3rd party apps (non-app store) 
but never with MailMate. I never worried about it, or even gave it much 
thought.


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Re: [MlMt] mailmate on the dock

2016-08-16 Thread Alexandre Takacs

On 15 Aug 2016, at 15:40, Robert Brenstein wrote:

I haven't seen it in any other in-program upgrade so far and most 
programs use that mechanism nowadays. At first glance, it looks like 
the script that does the upgrade failed to remove the old icon from 
the dock. If that happens only rarely, it could be a timing issue.


FWIW I have seen it a few times with MM and indeed to my recollection it 
is the only app exhibiting this. But fairly minor issue anyway.


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Re: [MlMt] mailmate on the dock

2016-08-15 Thread Robert Brenstein

On 15.08.2016 at 15:01 Uhr -0400 Bill Cole apparently wrote:

On 15 Aug 2016, at 9:40, Robert Brenstein wrote:

At first glance, it looks like the script that does the upgrade 
failed to remove the old icon from the dock.


That's not how it works. Apps (and their installers) don't manage 
their own icons in the Dock.


The icon you see in the Dock is determined by Launch Services, a Mac 
OS X subsystem that keeps track of file types and associated "kind" 
strings, icons, URL scheme associations (and probably other details 
that are slipping my mind...) for all apps. Launch Services is 
essentially the MacOS X replacement for the Finder's "desktop" files 
in classic MacOS. It has difficulties with edge cases like the 
existence of multiple versions of an app in different places that 
both are represented in metadata (Spotlight) indices. The most an 
app installer can do is explicitly tell LS to register an app that 
it has just installed, however it sometimes seems like LS doesn't do 
as it is told. If I knew why this was, I'd be sending my resume to 
Apple because no one there has been able to work it out for about a 
decade...




I meant the script in the installer. I do realize that you did not 
write that code. Aynway, it is not a real issue. I reported it 
because this is the first time  ever I saw this but apparently I have 
only been lucky until now ;-)


Robert
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Re: [MlMt] mailmate on the dock

2016-08-15 Thread Bill Cole

On 15 Aug 2016, at 9:40, Robert Brenstein wrote:

At first glance, it looks like the script that does the upgrade failed 
to remove the old icon from the dock.


That's not how it works. Apps (and their installers) don't manage their 
own icons in the Dock.


The icon you see in the Dock is determined by Launch Services, a Mac OS 
X subsystem that keeps track of file types and associated "kind" 
strings, icons, URL scheme associations (and probably other details that 
are slipping my mind...) for all apps. Launch Services is essentially 
the MacOS X replacement for the Finder's "desktop" files in classic 
MacOS. It has difficulties with edge cases like the existence of 
multiple versions of an app in different places that both are 
represented in metadata (Spotlight) indices. The most an app installer 
can do is explicitly tell LS to register an app that it has just 
installed, however it sometimes seems like LS doesn't do as it is told. 
If I knew why this was, I'd be sending my resume to Apple because no one 
there has been able to work it out for about a decade...


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Re: [MlMt] mailmate on the dock

2016-08-15 Thread Sam Hathaway

On 15 Aug 2016, at 9:40 AM EDT, Robert Brenstein wrote:


On 13.08.2016 at 15:55 Uhr +0200 Benny Kjær Nielsen apparently wrote:

On 11 Aug 2016, at 17:32, Robert Brenstein wrote:

I just upgraded from build 6047 to 6048 and MM did a strange thing 
-- it left the old icon on the dock and added a new icon. Only the 
new icon had counts (see attachment). I removed the old icon 
manually, but apparently the second icon was only a temp thingy as 
it went away from the dock after I quit MM.


Anyone else noticed that?


I've seen this myself on very rare occasions. I'm not really sure 
what triggers it and it's tricky to debug. (I'm not even sure it's a 
MailMate only issue.)


--
Benny


I haven't seen it in any other in-program upgrade so far and most 
programs use that mechanism nowadays. At first glance, it looks like 
the script that does the upgrade failed to remove the old icon from 
the dock. If that happens only rarely, it could be a timing issue.



This happens with some Firefox upgrades as well. It’s certainly not 
MailMate-specific.

-sam
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Re: [MlMt] mailmate on the dock

2016-08-15 Thread Robert Brenstein

On 13.08.2016 at 15:55 Uhr +0200 Benny Kjær Nielsen apparently wrote:

On 11 Aug 2016, at 17:32, Robert Brenstein wrote:

I just upgraded from build 6047 to 6048 and MM 
did a strange thing -- it left the old icon on 
the dock and added a new icon. Only the new 
icon had counts (see attachment). I removed the 
old icon manually, but apparently the second 
icon was only a temp thingy as it went away 
from the dock after I quit MM.


Anyone else noticed that?


I've seen this myself on very rare occasions. 
I'm not really sure what triggers it and it's 
tricky to debug. (I'm not even sure it's a 
MailMate only issue.)


--
Benny


I haven't seen it in any other in-program upgrade 
so far and most programs use that mechanism 
nowadays. At first glance, it looks like the 
script that does the upgrade failed to remove the 
old icon from the dock. If that happens only 
rarely, it could be a timing issue.


Robert
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Re: [MlMt] mailmate on the dock

2016-08-13 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 11 Aug 2016, at 17:32, Robert Brenstein wrote:

I just upgraded from build 6047 to 6048 and MM did a strange thing -- 
it left the old icon on the dock and added a new icon. Only the new 
icon had counts (see attachment). I removed the old icon manually, but 
apparently the second icon was only a temp thingy as it went away from 
the dock after I quit MM.


Anyone else noticed that?


I've seen this myself on very rare occasions. I'm not really sure what 
triggers it and it's tricky to debug. (I'm not even sure it's a MailMate 
only issue.)


--
Benny
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[MlMt] mailmate on the dock

2016-08-11 Thread Robert Brenstein
I just upgraded from build 6047 to 6048 and MM did a strange thing -- 
it left the old icon on the dock and added a new icon. Only the new 
icon had counts (see attachment). I removed the old icon manually, 
but apparently the second icon was only a temp thingy as it went away 
from the dock after I quit MM.


Anyone else noticed that?

Robert

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