Re: [MlMt] Invisible messages

2016-09-28 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 28 Sep 2016, at 6:31, Jean-Pierre Gattuso wrote:

Many thanks to Bill Cole for his thoughtful input. My problem is that 
only **some** messages are not visible in MailMate while they are in 
the IMAP server and are visible in the webmail. It therefore seems 
that not all messages are synced. What can I do to have MailMate to 
closely reflect the content of the IMAP server?


Is this a Gmail account?

Yes: The problem is likely that the archived messages only exist in 
`[Gmail]/All Mail` and MailMate does not synchronize this by default. 
(If it's not needed then it's a waste of time to keep it synchronized.) 
You can subscribe it via “Edit Subscriptions” in the IMAP account 
editor.


No: We should debug off list. Make sure there are no offline mailboxes 
if you expand all mailboxes in the account under SOURCES in the mailbox 
list.


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[MlMt] Invisible messages

2016-09-27 Thread Jean-Pierre Gattuso

All,

Many thanks to Bill Cole for his thoughtful input. My problem is that 
only **some** messages are not visible in MailMate while they are in the 
IMAP server and are visible in the webmail. It therefore seems that not 
all messages are synced. What can I do to have MailMate to closely 
reflect the content of the IMAP server?


Jean-Pierre



I’m not certain what the source of the problem is, but there are 3
things that I can think of that could cause this:

1. The “archive” folder is not synchronised on your work machine. 
You

can either find it in the folder hierarchy of the IMAP account in the
Sources section of the MailMate mailbox list and synchronise it
specifically (in the contextual menu or under the regular Mailbox 
menu)

or use the menu File->Synchronize->All Sources to synchronise
everything. If it fails to get synchronised regularly, the root cause
could be that it is be set to synchronise only manually, which you can
fix by selecting it and using the “Synchronisation Schedule” 
submenu of

the Mailbox or contextual menu.

2. The “archive” folder is not understood by MailMate on your work
machine to be THE Archive folder (a single special-purpose folder) for
that account, and you are looking at the Archive->AccountName folder 
in
the Mailboxes section of MailMate’s  mailbox list, which is some 
other

folder in that account. To tell MailMate that a specific IMAP folder
should be treated as one of the 5 special-purpose folders recognised 
by

MailMate, select the folder in the Sources section of the mailbox list
and use the Mailbox Type submenu of the contextual or Mailbox menu.

3. You are not subscribed to the “archive” folder on your work 
machine.

Select the account in the Sources section of the MailMate mailbox list
and use the “Edit IMAP Account” option from the contextual or 
Mailbox
menu to open the IMAP Account Settings window. In the center section 
of
that window there is an “Edit Subscriptions…” button that opens 
a

panel listing all of the folders in the IMAP account and their
subscription states, both in the server’s subscription list and in
MailMate’s own internal list that governs which folders you actually 
see

(and which get synchronised) in the Sources section of the MailMate
mailbox list. This seems to me to be an unlikely cause, since an
unsubscribed folder would not be missing messages, it would be be
entirely absent.

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Re: [MlMt] Invisible messages

2016-09-24 Thread Paul Sture

On 23 Sep 2016, at 10:47, Alain Israel wrote:

Incidently, there is no french localization of Mailmate (nor any other 
language as far as I know).


FWIW the easy way to see what languages a given app supports is look 
inside it, e.g.


ls -d /Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/*.lproj

/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/Base.lproj
/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/ar.lproj
/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/ca.lproj
/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/cs.lproj
/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/da.lproj
/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/de.lproj --> German
/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/el.lproj
/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/en.lproj --> English
/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/es.lproj --> Spanish
/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/es_MX.lproj
/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj
/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/fr.lproj  -> French

where the German/English/Spanish/French highlights are my additions


This may deter some potential users, but I understand the amount of 
work required to adapt the program, amount that will be more usefully 
used by Benny to improve Mailmate.

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Re: [MlMt] Invisible messages

2016-09-23 Thread Alain Israel
Incidently, there is no french localization of Mailmate (nor any other 
language as far as I know). This may deter some potential users, but I 
understand the amount of work required to adapt the program, amount that 
will be more usefully used by Benny to improve Mailmate.

Alain

On 22 Sep 2016, at 21:23, Bill Cole wrote:


On 22 Sep 2016, at 4:28, Jean-Pierre Gattuso wrote:

Yesterday, at home, I moved messages to an “archive” folder on my 
IMAP account. Today, at work, these messages are not displayed in the 
same “archive” folder by MailMate but are displayed on the web 
mail. How can I get these messages on my work version of Mailmate? I 
use Version 1.9.5 (5263) on OSX 10.11.6.


[Note: the names/labels of various commands and UI components used 
below are the English ones. If you are using a French localization of 
MailMate you will need to translate them, as your command of English 
is clearly MUCH better than my trivial knowledge of French]


I'm not certain what the source of the problem is, but there are 3 
things that I can think of that could cause this:


1. The "archive" folder is not synchronized on your work machine. You 
can either find it in the folder hierarchy of the IMAP account in the 
Sources section of the MailMate mailbox list and synchronize it 
specifically (in the contextual menu or under the regular Mailbox 
menu)  or use the menu File->Synchronize->All Sources to synchronize 
everything. If it fails to get synchronized regularly, the root cause 
could be that it is be set to synchronize only manually, which you can 
fix by selecting it and using the "Synchronization Schedule" submenu 
of the Mailbox or contextual menu.


2. The "archive" folder is not understood by MailMate on your work 
machine to be THE Archive folder (a single special-purpose folder) for 
that account, and you are looking at the Archive->AccountName folder 
in the Mailboxes section of MailMate's  mailbox list, which is some 
other folder in that account. To tell MailMate that a specific IMAP 
folder should be treated as one of the 5 special-purpose folders 
recognized by MailMate, select the folder in the Sources section of 
the mailbox list and use the Mailbox Type submenu of the contextual or 
Mailbox menu.


3. You are not subscribed to the "archive" folder on your work 
machine. Select the account in the Sources section of the MailMate 
mailbox list and use the "Edit IMAP Account" option from the 
contextual or Mailbox menu to open the IMAP Account Settings window. 
In the center section of that window there is an "Edit 
Subscriptions..." button that opens a panel listing all of the folders 
in the IMAP account and their subscription states, both in the 
server's subscription list and in MailMate's own internal list that 
governs which folders you actually see (and which get synchronized) in 
the Sources section of the MailMate mailbox list. This seems to me to 
be an unlikely cause, since an unsubscribed folder would not be 
missing messages, it would be be entirely absent.

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Re: [MlMt] Invisible messages

2016-09-22 Thread Bill Cole

On 22 Sep 2016, at 4:28, Jean-Pierre Gattuso wrote:

Yesterday, at home, I moved messages to an “archive” folder on my 
IMAP account. Today, at work, these messages are not displayed in the 
same “archive” folder by MailMate but are displayed on the web 
mail. How can I get these messages on my work version of Mailmate? I 
use Version 1.9.5 (5263) on OSX 10.11.6.


[Note: the names/labels of various commands and UI components used below 
are the English ones. If you are using a French localization of MailMate 
you will need to translate them, as your command of English is clearly 
MUCH better than my trivial knowledge of French]


I'm not certain what the source of the problem is, but there are 3 
things that I can think of that could cause this:


1. The "archive" folder is not synchronized on your work machine. You 
can either find it in the folder hierarchy of the IMAP account in the 
Sources section of the MailMate mailbox list and synchronize it 
specifically (in the contextual menu or under the regular Mailbox menu)  
or use the menu File->Synchronize->All Sources to synchronize 
everything. If it fails to get synchronized regularly, the root cause 
could be that it is be set to synchronize only manually, which you can 
fix by selecting it and using the "Synchronization Schedule" submenu of 
the Mailbox or contextual menu.


2. The "archive" folder is not understood by MailMate on your work 
machine to be THE Archive folder (a single special-purpose folder) for 
that account, and you are looking at the Archive->AccountName folder in 
the Mailboxes section of MailMate's  mailbox list, which is some other 
folder in that account. To tell MailMate that a specific IMAP folder 
should be treated as one of the 5 special-purpose folders recognized by 
MailMate, select the folder in the Sources section of the mailbox list 
and use the Mailbox Type submenu of the contextual or Mailbox menu.


3. You are not subscribed to the "archive" folder on your work machine. 
Select the account in the Sources section of the MailMate mailbox list 
and use the "Edit IMAP Account" option from the contextual or Mailbox 
menu to open the IMAP Account Settings window. In the center section of 
that window there is an "Edit Subscriptions..." button that opens a 
panel listing all of the folders in the IMAP account and their 
subscription states, both in the server's subscription list and in 
MailMate's own internal list that governs which folders you actually see 
(and which get synchronized) in the Sources section of the MailMate 
mailbox list. This seems to me to be an unlikely cause, since an 
unsubscribed folder would not be missing messages, it would be be 
entirely absent.

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[MlMt] Invisible messages

2016-09-22 Thread Jean-Pierre Gattuso
Yesterday, at home, I moved messages to an “archive” folder on my 
IMAP account. Today, at work, these messages are not displayed in the 
same “archive” folder by MailMate but are displayed on the web mail. 
How can I get these messages on my work version of Mailmate? I use 
Version 1.9.5 (5263) on OSX 10.11.6.


Thanks,
Jean-Pierre


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