Re: [mailop] Google and the Message-Id Header

Aaron C. de Bruyn via mailop wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 1:51 PM Bill Cole via mailop > wrote: Not exactly garbage: if it exists, it needs a '@' and the legal content is slightly less permissive than the 'addr-spec' definition (i.e. email

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

In article <1570757713.1030.53.ca...@16bits.net> you write: >Count me too as someone with a tiny server that Gmail automatically >files in spam with apparently no reason. >There are so few mails sent there (at most, 7 mails *per month*, often I took a look at the logs to see what mail comes to my

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

Count me too as someone with a tiny server that Gmail automatically files in spam with apparently no reason. There are so few mails sent there (at most, 7 mails *per month*, often none at all) and seeming so futile, I didn't even dedicate time to that. It's slightly annoying, though. There is

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

On 10 Oct 2019, at 5:43, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: So you should ensure that you *can* be contacted by pretty much everyone. Of course, it's not an invitation to send you actual spam; but distrusting some senders just because they *can* *potentially* *in your opinion* be spammers,

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

It's a basic mistake to operate on whole netblocks and not individual senders. i somewhat disagree There are definitely networks that are so dirty that it's not worth accepting their mail. OVH hovers on the bad side of that line. If I were more interested in getting my mail to work than

[mailop] Strato AG contact

Hey, is some one of Strato AG or United Internet on this list ? If so, please contact me off list. :) Thanks a lot, Jan-Philipp --       Jan-Philipp Benecke Deliverability Team Fon: +49 4402 97390-00 E-Mail: j...@cleverreach.com Xing

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

> It's a basic mistake to operate on whole netblocks and not > individual senders. i somewhat disagree i tested this a while ago and just did a quick test again if i were to block a /24 containing a single bad actor, this usually won't block any legitimate mail and usually will block other spam

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

On 10/10/2019 6:10 AM, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: It's a basic mistake to operate on whole netblocks and not individual senders. Let me ask you something very straight forward. How much do you pay Google so that you can e-mail their users? I know you don't have a service contract or

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

On 10/10/2019 13:43, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: However, if you announce your e-mail address publicly, by eg. putting it on a website as your contact address, or participating in a mailing list like this one using this address, you are actually inviting people to contact you at this address Indeed.

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

On 10/10/2019 13:10, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: It's a basic mistake to operate on whole netblocks and not individual senders. It's like you would ban all citizens of a particular country X from coming to another country Y, because a lot of people from country X are terrorists. If 99.9%

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

Dnia 10.10.2019 o godz. 09:42:34 Paul Smith via mailop pisze: > > Nowadays, you'd be daft to accept mail from anywhere unless the > sender 'proves' to be nasty. Generally, you'll find it more likely > to work the other way. If you're an unknown sender, you're likely to > be filtered until you're

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

Dnia 9.10.2019 o godz. 16:49:46 John R Levine via mailop pisze: > > Right. I didn't get the message you were responding to, so I looked > in the logs and see the IP is in the middle of a block at OVH that > gushes spam so it went straight to the spam trap. The logs say that > it's the only

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

On 09/10/2019 20:36, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: Dnia 9.10.2019 o godz. 13:23:16 John Levine via mailop pisze: If you're not willing to pay 10€ for a real domain name, why should anyone put any effort into accepting your mail? Just because you should by default accept mail from everyone