On 2019-10-14 at 18:02 -0700, Brandon Long via mailop wrote:
> I mean, we do offer with sectioned inbox to move other messages out of
> the default view (since we're using
> labels, everything is still in the label, just different views), so we
> could offer that for spam as well... but frankly,
>
Yes, it is.
Suppose you bought service/product X, but didn't receive the
confirmation email.
Note: You are an end user, and don't have access to the server logs. ;)
Did the have an issue sending you the mail? Was it rejected locally as
spam? Is it pending that their financial department actually
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 4:08 AM Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> Dnia 14.10.2019 o godz. 13:23:30 Brandon Long via mailop pisze:
> >
> > Modern spam filters are a combination of good and bad signals, but if you
> > have no good signal... then we only have the bad ones.
>
> Well, I could see at least few
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 4:36 AM Michael Orlitzky via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
> On 10/14/19 9:29 PM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 3:54 PM Michael Orlitzky via mailop
> > mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote:.
> > [snip]
> >
> > They don't care if
Hello,
I’m hoping to find a contact at Barracuda to chat about an issue we’re seeing.
If you could please contact me off list it would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Dustin Taylor
Technical Program Manager
AWS – Digital User Engagement
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on Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 12:58:51PM -0700, Brandon Long via mailop wrote:
> I used to think, when I ran my own server, that five or so spam messages a
> day, what's the big deal... until I just got tired of it. It was often
> more than the actual useful messages in my mailbox every time I checked.
> The problem isn't lack of honoring the bounce. The problem is what
> to make out of it when multiple recipients are present.
that's quite rare
usually it's 1:1
> Also, assuming that a reject after DATA is strictly content-related
> is, well, an assumption.
historically it could/did happen
> What MTAs do not honor this?
sorry, i don't know what's sending when this happens
> How does 550 after DATA result in backscatter?
perhaps because domain is 'old' spammers sometimes spam from $random@
those messages hit various providers which do *not* check dmarc, but
then forward (either
I agree with Laura, Brandon and Michael. Spam folders give receivers
options and adding user features to them only adds confusion for most
users.
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 6:13 AM Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
wrote:
> Dnia 15.10.2019 o godz. 09:44:10 Paul Smith via mailop pisze:
> >
> > However,
On 10/14/19 9:29 PM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 3:54 PM Michael Orlitzky via mailop
> mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote:.
> [snip]
>
> They don't care if you or anyone else can send/receive mail, ...
>
>
> It seems like Gmail wouldn't last long as an email
Dnia 14.10.2019 o godz. 13:23:30 Brandon Long via mailop pisze:
>
> Modern spam filters are a combination of good and bad signals, but if you
> have no good signal... then we only have the bad ones.
Well, I could see at least few potential "good" signals - I wonder if you
use these, and if yes,
Dnia 15.10.2019 o godz. 09:44:10 Paul Smith via mailop pisze:
>
> However, our spam filter actually sends me an email containing a
> list of filtered emails every day, to prod me to take a look. It's
> sorted and colourised by 'spamminess', so the most likely to be
> false positives are shown at
Dnia 14.10.2019 o godz. 23:59:23 Michael Rathbun via mailop pisze:
>
> >What defines spam is the *contents* of the message...
>
> Actually, no. Content is largely irrelevant. We almost never terminate a
> hosted customer due to content. The major consideration is always consent of
> the
On 15.10.19 10:44, Paul Smith via mailop wrote:
> Ditto. Yesterday, I got 400 emails. About 200 were spam that was
> filtered, about 15 were spam that wasn't filtered, the rest I wanted at
> one level or another. No way do I want 200 spam messages shoved into my
> Inbox.
So instead of
Hi,
I replied off-list to Joel.
For the record we had a issue in our spam traps between 09/27 and 10/10.
Basically the reputation engine wasn't getting the correct feedback from our
spam traps and therefore affected the RBL performance. The tests performed by
Joel were in this time window and
On 14/10/2019 19:39, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote:
On 2019-10-14 06:07:31 (-0700), Thomas Walter via mailop wrote:
Do we even need Junk/Spam-Folders?
I mean how much mail gets through the first "block directly" level on
your site? Every now and then a wave comes through and results in a
bad
On 14 Oct 2019, at 23:39, Thomas Walter via mailop wrote:
On 15.10.19 00:34, Chris Wedgwood via mailop wrote:
Doesn't "550 Requested action not taken: We don't like you." apply
after DATA?
it does
most severs honor this but not all
(i experience this sometimes, my domain somtimes gets a
On 15.10.19 00:34, Chris Wedgwood via mailop wrote:
>> Doesn't "550 Requested action not taken: We don't like you." apply
>> after DATA?
>
> it does
>
> most severs honor this but not all
>
> (i experience this sometimes, my domain somtimes gets a lot of
> backscatter)
What MTAs do not honor
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