[mailop] Maximum message size - tag along question.

2020-10-23 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
Do you take into account the 4/3 inflation with Base64 encoding and / or allow for any message body when setting the maximum message size that your servers allow? -- Grant. . . . unix || die smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

[mailop] bell.ca/bell.net contact?

2020-10-23 Thread Erwin via mailop
Hello, We appear to be hitting a capacity wall from one of our ranges ( 15.222.16.128/25) in delivering to their servers at 184.150.200.82 and 184.150.200.210. I reached out to postmas...@bell.ca (postmas...@bell.net bounced) at the end of yesterday (PDT) but no response yet, so maybe here?

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 23.10.2020 o godz. 22:48:42 Adam Moffett via mailop pisze: > > An additional argument is how much support labor is it worth to > guide/force/teach the use of cloud storage compared to the risks of > allowing larger emails? One of these is things is way easier. > Someday I may bow to the

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Thomas Walter via mailop
On 24.10.20 00:48, Adam Moffett via mailop wrote: > Nail on head Brandon. > > An additional argument is how much support labor is it worth to > guide/force/teach the use of cloud storage compared to the risks of > allowing larger emails?  One of these is things is way easier.  Someday > I may

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Adam Moffett via mailop
Nail on head Brandon. An additional argument is how much support labor is it worth to guide/force/teach the use of cloud storage compared to the risks of allowing larger emails? One of these is things is way easier. Someday I may bow to the needs of ignorance because it's easier. And I

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
As much as we all may laugh at using email for these things, there are a bunch of benefits to it. For example, telling someone at a company to use some random external service to host their potentially confidential material is not a great sell and probably against the rules at most large

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread L. Mark Stone via mailop
We use 100MB max message size, have customers who routinely send messages with attachments approaching that limit, and only rarely do we see a message rejected due to it being too large. Hope that helps, Mark ___ L. Mark Stone, Founder North

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian via mailop
Most if not all places ask that you use a file sharing solution - google drive, box etc for large files. --srs From: mailop on behalf of Adam Moffett via mailop Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 11:17:00 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Maximum

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Thomas Walter via mailop
On 23.10.20 22:51, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: > Perhaps someone should come up with a protocol designed to transfer > files. They could name it File Transfer Protocol and abbreviate it FTP. I'd prefer something with "Secure" in it's name though, preferably in the front, so it shows the

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 23.10.2020 o godz. 17:47:00 Adam Moffett via mailop pisze: > Yes, it was set to 200MB years ago by request of an engineer sending > CAD files. > Now I have someone else who wants it larger. Does that someone know that services like WeTransfer or similar exist? Or that one can share files via

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 10/23/20 10:23, Adam Moffett via mailop wrote: I'm at 200MB maximum message size and have someone requesting we increase that limit. Is there any current consensus on what it should be? I think you'll find that the rest of the Internet has a limit far lower, about 20 MB is Never

Re: [mailop] Protection.outlook.com SPF hoops to jump for IPv6

2020-10-23 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article you write: >When sending messages to a *.mail.protection.outlook.com host via IPv6, >our mail host gets the following email status: > >#4.7.26 SMTP; 450 4.7.26 Service does not accept messages sent over IPv6 >[2001:708:10:6004::22] unless they pass either SPF or DKIM validation

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian via mailop
Some of the largest emails I’m seeing over the years are random spams with huge amounts of hashbuster text, that figure out that many spam filters will skip scanning overly large emails. Most regular users these days appear to know about and use file sharing services. --srs

Re: [mailop] bell.ca/bell.net contact?

2020-10-23 Thread Erwin Harte via mailop
On 10/23/20 11:04 AM, Erwin Harte wrote: Hello, We appear to be hitting a capacity ceiling from one of our ranges (15.222.16.128/25) in delivering to their servers at 184.150.200.82 (smtpvipmtrlin.bell.net/mxmta.owm.bell.net) and 184.150.200.210 (smtpviptorin.bell.net/mxmta.owm.bell.net).

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Robert Blayzor via mailop
On 10/23/20 1:23 PM, Adam Moffett via mailop wrote: > I'm at 200MB maximum message size and have someone requesting we > increase that limit. > > Is there any current consensus on what it should be? Sheesh... Sounds like someone needs Dropbox or Nextcloud... -- inoc.net!rblayzor XMPP:

Re: [mailop] SBC Global Contact

2020-10-23 Thread Stuart Hochwert via mailop
Ken - We have had this too when we add a new IP. Sometimes we find it was on some internal block list. SBC is managed by AT as I recall. You e-mail: abuse_...@abuse-att.net The block message may contain the link or e-mail as I recall. Sometimes they respond in 12 hours, typically 1 - 2 days.

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2020-10-23 Thread Marcel Becker via mailop
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 10:51 AM Adam Moffett via mailop wrote: > Meanwhile I have found in Google searching that GMail allows 25MB and I > believe O365 is 150MB max. > https://help.yahoo.com/kb/message-size-limits-yahoo-mail-sln5673.html

[mailop] bell.ca/bell.net contact?

2020-10-23 Thread Erwin Harte via mailop
Hello, We appear to be hitting a capacity ceiling from one of our ranges (15.222.16.128/25) in delivering to their servers at 184.150.200.82 (smtpvipmtrlin.bell.net/mxmta.owm.bell.net) and 184.150.200.210 (smtpviptorin.bell.net/mxmta.owm.bell.net). I reached out to postmas...@bell.ca

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
By default we still distribute with a 10MG maximum size, but frankly almost all of our customers has bumped it to the maximum we recommend, which is 20MG. (the odd one even went to 30, but we don't recommend that) Too bad this isnt' escalated to a recommended standard. How about we use this

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Evert Mouw via mailop
On 10/23/20 7:23 PM, Adam Moffett via mailop wrote: I'm at 200MB maximum message size and have someone requesting we increase that limit. Is there any current consensus on what it should be? Current default max. message size for Postfix configurations: message_size_limit (default:

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Eric Tykwinski via mailop
Exactly what I was thinking: 150MB for Microsoft Online https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office365/servicedescriptions/exchange-onli ne-service-description/exchange-online-limits#message-limits-1 50 MB for GSuite: https://support.google.com/a/answer/175121?hl=en If you can upsell to

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Adam Moffett via mailop
Yes, it was set to 200MB years ago by request of an engineer sending CAD files. Now I have someone else who wants it larger. Meanwhile I have found in Google searching that GMail allows 25MB and I believe O365 is 150MB max. My initial impulse was to say no to this request because I'm aware

Re: [mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian via mailop
How many providers are going to accept 200 mb emails if you enable this and someone then tries to send one out? --srs From: mailop on behalf of Adam Moffett via mailop Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 10:53:51 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] Maximum

[mailop] Maximum message size

2020-10-23 Thread Adam Moffett via mailop
I'm at 200MB maximum message size and have someone requesting we increase that limit. Is there any current consensus on what it should be? -- Adam Moffett, Network Engineer Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net Office: 1.866.759.4678 x104

[mailop] SBC Global Contact

2020-10-23 Thread Kenneth Vedder via mailop
Good Morning, I was wondering if there is an SBC Contact on the list. I added a new mail server on a new IP overnight, and see that the IP is apparently on the block list. Thanks, Ken Vedder Amplex Internet ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] Protection.outlook.com SPF hoops to jump for IPv6

2020-10-23 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen via mailop
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 10:28:28AM +0300, Otto J. Makela via mailop wrote: > > SPF for aka.fi is, as far as I can tell, correct albeit non-restrictive. > Before I start randomly making changes (like adding DKIM etc), does anyone > have ideas? I would guess it's the "?all" part they don't like.

Re: [mailop] Protection.outlook.com SPF hoops to jump for IPv6

2020-10-23 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 23.10.2020 o godz. 10:28:28 Otto J. Makela via mailop pisze: > https://www.spf-record.com/spf-lookup/aka.fi?ip=2001:708:10:6004::22 > > The latter test gives me a slightly germanic error about non-restrictiveness. I guess you are talking about this: Syntax check not passed: 1 error The

[mailop] Protection.outlook.com SPF hoops to jump for IPv6

2020-10-23 Thread Otto J. Makela via mailop
We have a customer (Finnish Academy aka.fi) who use our services to send out emails through our server smtp.sdn.csc.fi. Unfortunately, Outlook.com seems to have added more hoops for us to jump through. When sending messages to a *.mail.protection.outlook.com host via IPv6, our mail host gets the