On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 11:30:19 -0600, Anne Mitchell via mailop
wrote:
>Well, and also *confirming* the email address to start with.
Let's think about Heather, a mother of three in eastern Kansas, who signed up
a while ago for real estate topics, presumably at a co-reg site of some sort.
Cometh
If the address isn’t a “no-reply@“, I generally do the same, but more and more
I’m getting “this message is sent from an unmonitored email address, please do
not reply”.
The worst so far is Royal Bank of Canada. One of their customers used my gmail
address and I’ve been getting all sorts of
> To receive first an email requesting you to confirm your address, only to
> next receive another email from them with the actual information? That seems
> over-engineered...
How often is it only one message? I typically get 3, often 4 sometimes even 5:
we got your order
we shipped it
it
I usually reply and ask them to cancel the order/reservation. Maybe next
time the person won't be so careless writing down their email.
On 2023-08-24 07:12, Chris Adams via mailop wrote:
What do you do when legitimate mail (lately, DoorDash order info and
Delta Airlines tickets) is sent to
On 2023-08-24 09:40, Mike Hillyer via mailop wrote:
Because 99.9% of the time it is solicited
really? think again, and also the definition of transactional email.
Here is an example from OpenTable whatever that belongs to the
Booking.com horror show.
some restaurant now *require* (as in:
On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 at 18:43, Michael Grant via mailop
wrote:
> > (You could also try to reset the password, often sent to the registered
> > email address.)
>
> I have this issue with my gmail account. I get literally a TON of
> crap for other people who think they have my gmail account.
>
> (You could also try to reset the password, often sent to the registered
> email address.)
I have this issue with my gmail account. I get literally a TON of
crap for other people who think they have my gmail account.
Unfortunately putting the mail in spam and telling gmail to block it
but it
> On Aug 24, 2023, at 6:12 AM, Chris Adams via mailop wrote:
>
> What do you do when legitimate mail (lately, DoorDash order info and
> Delta Airlines tickets) is sent to the wrong address? These types of
> messages rarely have an unsubscribe method. I get a ton of crap to a
> Gmail address
Oh dear ghod yes.
I want to line everyone who's ever recommended noreply@ up against the wall and
[ At this point in the broadcast, Jay thought better of saying what he wanted
to
do in a posting to a public mailing list, but trust me, it was going to be very
satisfying to hear about, for
Dnia 24.08.2023 o godz. 07:12:52 Chris Adams via mailop pisze:
> What do you do when legitimate mail (lately, DoorDash order info and
> Delta Airlines tickets) is sent to the wrong address? These types of
> messages rarely have an unsubscribe method. I get a ton of crap to a
> Gmail address that
It appears that Chris Adams via mailop said:
>What do you do when legitimate mail (lately, DoorDash order info and
>Delta Airlines tickets) is sent to the wrong address?
My Gmail account gets a lot of mail for people who imagine that my
account is their account. They have names similar to mine
It appears that Slavko via mailop said:
>>In all the years I've been running mail systems (which to my great
>>astonishment is now greater than 25!) I've used a variety of netblock sizes
>>and occasionally entire
>AS numbers in outright blocks.
>
>IIRC, Jaroslaw have bad neighbors...
Well,
On Thu, 2023-08-24 at 12:10 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
>
> Individual IP reputation - yes.
>
> Netblock reputation - no. Only if you know that the entire netblock belongs
> to a spammer, it is justified to block the entire netblock.
>
> If it is just a random netblock of some ISP
Because 99.9% of the time it is solicited, outside of the scenario you are
dealing with, someone engaged in an action with the vendor systems which is
triggering a notification to the user of the status of their action, and on top
of that a remote MTA is accepting that message as going to a
Once upon a time, Paul Menzel said:
> I guess it’s ignorance, and that nobody complains to them. Depending
> on your jurisdiction you can report this case to the “data privacy
> office”, and you can contact the data protection officer of the
> offending company.
I hadn't thought about trying
Once upon a time, Mike Hillyer said:
> You get a doordash status message, you decide you don't need them, you
> unsubscribe. A couple of months later you need to reset your password and now
> you never get the reset link because you unsubscribed from transactional
> messages? Sure, we can get
One more note: in my opinion transactional messages should never come from a
noreply@ but instead should route to customer support, so that cases of
mistaken identity can be resolved by replying and letting them you that the
messages are not reaching their intended recipient.
-Original
Dear Chris,
Am 24.08.23 um 14:12 schrieb Chris Adams via mailop:
What do you do when legitimate mail (lately, DoorDash order info and
Delta Airlines tickets) is sent to the wrong address? These types of
messages rarely have an unsubscribe method. I get a ton of crap to a
Gmail address that I
Adding an unsub link for truly transactional mail can result is missed messages
later on, which is why there's usually not an unsub link.
You get a doordash status message, you decide you don't need them, you
unsubscribe. A couple of months later you need to reset your password and now
you
Once upon a time, Christine Borgia said:
> Because it's not a subscription. The person is entering the email address
> where they want their order info to go, and they are entering your email.
> The onus is on that person and not the vendor.
That's a very vendor-centric look at it. When I get
> Account creations from airlines should already have a COI to begin with
when siging up for an account.
If there is an account creation involved, I agree with you. Same with
auto-subscribing for marketing. I'm speaking only with regards to
transactional messages being sent when someone enters
Hello Christine,
Because it's not a subscription. The person is entering the email
address where they want their order info to go, and
they are entering your email. The onus is on that person and not the
vendor
Not sure if i agree with that statement. In the majority of cases they
auto add
Because it's not a subscription. The person is entering the email address
where they want their order info to go, and they are entering your email.
The onus is on that person and not the vendor.
On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 8:16 AM Chris Adams via mailop
wrote:
> What do you do when legitimate mail
What do you do when legitimate mail (lately, DoorDash order info and
Delta Airlines tickets) is sent to the wrong address? These types of
messages rarely have an unsubscribe method. I get a ton of crap to a
Gmail address that I really only use for Google-related stuff (not as a
general email
Dňa 24. augusta 2023 11:10:48 UTC používateľ Graeme Fowler via mailop
napísal:
>On 24 August 2023 11:12:07 Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
>
>
>> If it is just a random netblock of some ISP that just happens to contain
>> some spamming IPs (even a lot of them) inside - no, never block the
On 24 August 2023 11:12:07 Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
If it is just a random netblock of some ISP that just happens to contain
some spamming IPs (even a lot of them) inside - no, never block the netblock
as a whole.
In all the years I've been running mail systems (which to my great
Dnia 23.08.2023 o godz. 09:08:52 Michael Peddemors via mailop pisze:
>
> It continues to be a battle, but overall the traditional spammers
> are still getting IP space, seems that even the historically 'good'
> hosting companies are throwing in the towel lately, and letting any
> one on board
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