I would caution against assuming that legal analysis is required to match
technical analysis.
At the least, any legal proceedings would involve a lot of argument over
exactly what the words
in the statute mean, what the intent of the legislature was, and whether
reasonable attempts were made
to me
On 8/1/22 9:59 AM, WIlliam Fisher via mailop wrote:
This is purely a "punish big tech for us not following rules" bill.
Any time someone says / implies "do what I say, not what I do" I become
highly suspicious of the veracity of their statement.
If the laws aren't good enough for you, then t
They don't care.
This is purely a "punish big tech for us not following rules" bill.
On 8/1/22 8:46 AM, Bill Cole via mailop wrote:
On 2022-08-01 at 05:12:01 UTC-0400 (Mon, 1 Aug 2022 11:12:01 +0200)
Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
is rumored to have said:
Dnia 1.08.2022 o godz. 08:26:56 Dan Mal
There is a definite bias in American political e-mail, but it has
nothing to do with actual
politics.
Blue e-mail tends to follow best sending practices, mostly uses good
carriers, etc. (I said mostly)
Red e-mail tends to not follow best practices, use the cheapest and less
reputable carrie
On 2022-07-30 21:07, Jarland Donnell via mailop wrote:
>
> I think in this case we all know what they're doing and you've hit it dead
> on. They're targeting Gmail and they're not really interested in anyone else.
Which is one reason the bill may not go any further, because now that Google
ha
> On Jul 31, 2022, at 1:29 PM, Laura Atkins via mailop
> wrote:
>
> The research paper seems reasonably well done and I encourage people to
> actually read it and their conclusions rather than paying attention to the
> popular press takes on it.
Totally agreed and, in fact, my understandin
On 2022-08-01 at 05:12:01 UTC-0400 (Mon, 1 Aug 2022 11:12:01 +0200)
Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
is rumored to have said:
Dnia 1.08.2022 o godz. 08:26:56 Dan Malm via mailop pisze:
But the only way you can get gmail to "use a filtering algorithm to
apply a
label" would be for yourself to "take
Dnia 1.08.2022 o godz. 08:26:56 Dan Malm via mailop pisze:
>
> But the only way you can get gmail to "use a filtering algorithm to apply a
> label" would be for yourself to "take action to apply such a label" by
> creating a filter yourself... Gmail doesn't apply labels to spam, it places
> the s
On 2022-07-30 21:07, Jarland Donnell via mailop wrote:
I think in this case we all know what they're doing and you've hit it
dead on. They're targeting Gmail and they're not really interested in
anyone else.
But the only way you can get gmail to "use a filtering algorithm to
apply a label" wo
The research paper seems reasonably well done and I encourage people to
actually read it and their conclusions rather than paying attention to the
popular press takes on it.
Laura
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 30, 2022, at 7:54 PM, Larry M. Smith via mailop
> wrote:
>
> On 7/29/2022, Anne
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022, Justin Scott via mailop wrote:
Interestingly any email "operator" with fewer than 500 employees or less
than $5 billion in annual revenue is exempt, so clearly targeted at the
major providers and not self-hosted operators or small hosting companies,
thankfully.
Yes, but an
On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 18:44:10 +, "Larry M. Smith via mailop"
wrote:
>.. I really don't know, but I tend to discount the belief that this is a
>conspiracy against them.
Looking over the past seven years' data, I find that exactly one Democrat
campaign purchased an address that delivers here.
I think in this case we all know what they're doing and you've hit it
dead on. They're targeting Gmail and they're not really interested in
anyone else.
On 2022-07-30 11:16, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
I'm not an American, so it's basically "not my fairy-tale" (as we say
in our
country), b
On 7/29/2022, Anne Mitchell via mailop wrote:
I want to be sure that everyone here is aware of a piece of pending legislation
in the U.S. that is in committee in both the House and the Senate right now.
It's called the Political BIAS Emails Act of 2022 (BIAS is short for “Bias In
Algorithm Sor
I'm not an American, so it's basically "not my fairy-tale" (as we say in our
country), but I can't stop wondering at the use of the word "label" in the
proposed regulation.
I already asked (in a bit sarcastic tone) in one of the previous emails, what
is a "label" in context of email in general. Be
Is there any hard data? This seems like thesis bait. I'd expect there to be
a steady trickle of papers or reports with good data on political spam. Where
are they?
I hear lots of complaints by conservatives/Republicans that the spam filters
are biased against them. If they send more spam,
On 29 Jul 2022, at 14:32, Anne Mitchell via mailop wrote:
I want to be sure that everyone here is aware of a piece of pending
legislation in the U.S. that is in committee in both the House and the
Senate right now. It's called the Political BIAS Emails Act of 2022
(BIAS is short for “Bias In A
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 20:42:43 -0400, Brett Schenker via mailop
wrote:
>"They can say whatever they want, but .. I'm +1 with John. They have a
>*lot* to learn about email and how it works"
>
>Unless the language has changed since I read it, it says you need to report
>on how much goes to spam. If y
"They can say whatever they want, but .. I'm +1 with John. They have a
*lot* to learn about email and how it works"
Unless the language has changed since I read it, it says you need to report
on how much goes to spam. If you send it to quarantine instead, you can
still report it as 0 going to spam
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 13:11:24 -0700, Justin Scott via mailop
wrote:
>Interestingly any email "operator" with fewer than 500 employees or less
>than $5 billion in annual revenue is exempt, so clearly targeted at the
>major providers and not self-hosted operators or small hosting companies,
>thankfu
The humorous part is that they actually think "label" is in any way a
reasonable word to use. Quite easy to comply with, I promise not to
apply any labels! I'll just 5xx it...
On 2022-07-29 13:32, Anne Mitchell via mailop wrote:
I want to be sure that everyone here is aware of a piece of pendi
They can say whatever they want, but .. I'm +1 with John. They have a *lot*
to learn about email and how it works.
R's, Udeme
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 5:06 PM John Levine via mailop
wrote:
> It appears that Anne Mitchell via mailop said:
> >I want to be sure that everyone here is aware of a pie
It appears that Anne Mitchell via mailop said:
>I want to be sure that everyone here is aware of a piece of pending
>legislation in the U.S. that is in
>committee in both the House and the Senate right now. It's called the
>Political BIAS Emails Act of 2022
>(BIAS is short for “Bias In Algorithm
Interestingly any email "operator" with fewer than 500 employees or less
than $5 billion in annual revenue is exempt, so clearly targeted at the
major providers and not self-hosted operators or small hosting companies,
thankfully.
The issues on how an email operator is supposed to identify what em
I want to be sure that everyone here is aware of a piece of pending legislation
in the U.S. that is in committee in both the House and the Senate right now.
It's called the Political BIAS Emails Act of 2022 (BIAS is short for “Bias In
Algorithm Sorting”), and it requires that, and I quote:
“It
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