Re: [mailop] Why 5xx? (was: GMail 550 5.1.1)

2020-12-25 Thread Ángel via mailop
For the record, here is the summary published by Google: http://www.google.com/appsstatus/ir/4et50yp2ckm8otv.pdf Probably already seen by most people on this list. The relevant piece is: > A configuration change during this migration shifted the formatting > behavior of a service option so that

Re: [mailop] Why 5xx? (was: GMail 550 5.1.1)

2020-12-19 Thread Chris via mailop
On 2020-12-15 18:04, Chris Wedgwood via mailop wrote: things break, it happens... but why 5xx (vs 4xx) in this case? this means means emails are being lost, some of won't/can't be resent and recovered with 4xx most of them would be delivered once things come right the confidence in a

Re: [mailop] Why 5xx? (was: GMail 550 5.1.1)

2020-12-15 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 8:11 PM Jay R. Ashworth via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "John Levine via mailop" > > > In article <20201215230437.ga23...@aether.stupidest.org> you write: > >>things break, it happens... > >> > >>but why 5xx (vs 4xx) in this

Re: [mailop] Why 5xx? (was: GMail 550 5.1.1)

2020-12-15 Thread Jay R. Ashworth via mailop
- Original Message - > From: "John Levine via mailop" > In article <20201215230437.ga23...@aether.stupidest.org> you write: >>things break, it happens... >> >>but why 5xx (vs 4xx) in this case? > > Because it's broken. > > HTH, HAND, > John Sure, I haven't had to sweep up behind John

Re: [mailop] Why 5xx? (was: GMail 550 5.1.1)

2020-12-15 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
Yep. Remember this when ISPs yell at ESPs to immediately suppress addresses from all future mailings based on a single user unknown bounce. One truly cannot always trust every single bounce received. On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 5:07 PM Chris Wedgwood via mailop wrote: > > things break, it happens...

Re: [mailop] Why 5xx? (was: GMail 550 5.1.1)

2020-12-15 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article <20201215230437.ga23...@aether.stupidest.org> you write: >things break, it happens... > >but why 5xx (vs 4xx) in this case? Because it's broken. HTH, HAND, John ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

[mailop] Why 5xx? (was: GMail 550 5.1.1)

2020-12-15 Thread Chris Wedgwood via mailop
things break, it happens... but why 5xx (vs 4xx) in this case? this means means emails are being lost, some of won't/can't be resent and recovered with 4xx most of them would be delivered once things come right the confidence in a hard-bounce in this instance seems misplaced