Re: [mailop] Google rejects a TLS connection saying it needs TLS...

2017-03-16 Thread Ken O'Driscoll
On Thu, 2017-03-16 at 10:18 -0400, Kevin Huxham wrote: > they probably sell fax machines. Reminds me of a case many years ago when a client who ran courses on data protection emailed (yes, emailed) all their credit card details to the billing dept. because they weren't near a browser to pay

Re: [mailop] Google rejects a TLS connection saying it needs TLS...

2017-03-16 Thread Kevin Huxham
they probably sell fax machines. -K On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:50 AM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > That's a custom rejection message set by that GSuite customer, no clue > what policy they set. > > Brandon > > On Mar 15, 2017 9:35 PM, "Seth Mattinen"

Re: [mailop] Google rejects a TLS connection saying it needs TLS...

2017-03-16 Thread Dave Warren
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017, at 07:37, Paul Smith wrote: > On 16/03/2017 14:18, Kevin Huxham wrote: >> they probably sell fax machines. > > Their response is a bit like someone sending them credit card details > on a postcard, and them tearing it up (because you shouldn't send > confidential

Re: [mailop] Google rejects a TLS connection saying it needs TLS...

2017-03-16 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
So, yes, requiring TLS after the message was already sent in plaintext is less perfect than the alternative, it does have the benefit of informing and usually getting things fixed. Ie, if you assume that it corrects future failures, than its still useful. It's also a fallback, you can enforce