Am 28.12.21 um 11:08 schrieb Alessandro Vesely via mailop:
Yeah, we inevitably fall back to IP address lists. Perhaps not so much because it's easier to outline a perimeter
using numbers than names, but because it's rather immediate to operate on the former. A set of good names would sound
On Mon 27/Dec/2021 17:50:11 +0100 yuv wrote:
The first thing to make internet email viable for the future is to
establish a defensible perimeter and keep bad actors out. Easier said
than done. The problem does not affect email only. It affects
anything internet. Lacking a proper perimeter,
Hello,
Looks like Gmail Postmaster has not been updating its domain reputation
since last week.
The last domain reputation shown was from 17th of December.
Are you guys having the same situation too or is it just me ?
Thanks.
Alson
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Il 28/12/2021 20:00, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop ha scritto:
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Can't these restrictions be just moved from Dovecot/Postfix to Roundcube
itself? Roundcube definitely knows the value of the
$_SERVER["REMOTE_ADDR"]
variable and can make use of
On 29/12/2021 03:50, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
It is Roundcube that is actually connecting to Dovecot/Postfix and
receiving/sending mail, not the user's browser, so the connecting IP
that
Dovecot/Postfix gets is technically correct. No need to change it. On
the
other hand, user's
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Dnia 28.12.2021 o godz. 07:17:43 Michael Peddemors via mailop pisze:
For us, the security value of passing the originating IP to the
Dovecot or SMTP layers for auth restrictions is paramount, as well
as other details on the originating
You are not alone. This is a problem being seen by many people. I've been
told Google is aware. So now we need to just give them some time to revive
it.
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 8:10 AM Alson Wong via mailop
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Looks like Gmail Postmaster has not been updating its domain
On 12/28/21 09:27, Steven Champeon via mailop wrote:
I hope to die before that logic extends to hiding what channel you are
tuned into on a TV or radio for "privacy reasons". Infrastructure is
infrastructure, it's not like every packet you send has a social security
number or bank account
Bonjour Dominique,
and thanks for your comments!
Il 28/12/2021 17:23, Dominique Rousseau via mailop ha scritto:
Le Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 04:55:57PM +0100, Nicolas JEAN via mailop
[mailop@mailop.org] a écrit:
(...)
My conclusion is that today, there's no technical way to forward
client IPs from
Dňa 28. decembra 2021 17:08:24 UTC používateľ Nicolas JEAN via mailop
napísal:
>Did you encounter the issue of the first IMAP connection not forwarding
>the actual client IP to dovecot? (the one sent from roundcube's login page)
Terrible to tell now, as i didn't care before and i am not at PC
Hi Slavko,
Il 28/12/2021 17:35, Slavko via mailop ha scritto:
Dňa 28. decembra 2021 15:55:57 UTC používateľ Nicolas JEAN via
mailop napísal:
At least with dovecot you can
usehttps://gitlab.com/takerukoushirou/roundcube-dovecot_client_ip
which can add client's IP to login information (via
Hi Michael,
Il 28/12/2021 16:17, Michael Peddemors via mailop ha scritto:
The problem isn't 'technical', but rather political. There are those
out there that believe by including the originating IP Address, you
are exposing PPI (Private Personal Information) by including the IP
Address.
Same here.
~ Allen K
On Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 08:09:23 AM EST, Alson Wong via mailop
wrote:
Hello,
Looks like Gmail Postmaster has not been updating its domain reputation since
last week.
The last domain reputation shown was from 17th of December.
Are you guys having the same
On 2021-12-28 17:55, Nicolas JEAN via mailop wrote:
My conclusion is that today, there's no technical way to forward
client IPs from roundcube to dovecot/postfix.
Doesn't the XFORWARD feature work for postfix? I thought that's how
amavis for example talks to postfix. Usually via a dedicated
On 2021-12-28 11:27 a.m., Steven Champeon via mailop wrote:
I hope to die before that logic extends to hiding what channel you are
tuned into on a TV or radio for "privacy reasons". Infrastructure is
infrastructure, it's not like every packet you send has a social security
number or bank
Am 28.12.21 um 14:31 schrieb yuv via mailop:
On Tue, 2021-12-28 at 12:11 +0100, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote:
I'm working on a reputation based system which would use a p2p
network to transmit reputation opinions very quickly,
COMPLICATED.
The problem is behavioral, not
Dňa 28. decembra 2021 15:55:57 UTC používateľ Nicolas JEAN via mailop
napísal:
>Still, even if I'm going to have all legalities cleared and my terms of
>service updated...
>My conclusion is that today, there's no technical way to forward client
>IPs from roundcube to dovecot/postfix.
At
On Tue, 2021-12-28 at 12:11 +0100, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote:
> Am 28.12.21 um 11:08 schrieb Alessandro Vesely via mailop:
> > OTOH, if it were possible to ascribe each nastiness to its actual
> > culprit
UNNECESSARY AND
> I'm working on a reputation based system which would use a p2p
Hi everyone,
I'd like to gather some thoughts on the following issue.
*Problem*
By default, roundcube login attempts (imap, smtp) are forwarded to
dovecot/postfix without the original client IP that makes the request
(possibly true of other webmail software).
This can't benefit from
Hi Nicolas,
The problem isn't 'technical', but rather political. There are those
out there that believe by including the originating IP Address, you are
exposing PPI (Private Personal Information) by including the IP Address.
Of course, I personally think this is baloney, as the email
Hi,
Le Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 04:55:57PM +0100, Nicolas JEAN via mailop
[mailop@mailop.org] a écrit:
(...)
> >Possibly on install, it should ask the email operator for their
> >position, and 'maybe' warning them they should indicate that occurs
> >on their terms of service. But of course, most
on Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 07:17:43AM -0800, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote:
> The problem isn't 'technical', but rather political. There are
> those out there that believe by including the originating IP
> Address, you are exposing PPI (Private Personal Information) by
> including the IP
Dnia 28.12.2021 o godz. 07:17:43 Michael Peddemors via mailop pisze:
>
> For us, the security value of passing the originating IP to the
> Dovecot or SMTP layers for auth restrictions is paramount, as well
> as other details on the originating sender. (Country AUTH
> restrictions, OS Detection,
It appears that Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop said:
>I'm working on a reputation based system which would use a p2p network to
>transmit reputation opinions very quickly,
>allowing each node's policy to decide who to trust and what actions to take.
Web of Trust is another WKBI.
I'd suggest
It appears that yuv via mailop said:
>The first thing to make internet email viable for the future is to
>establish a defensible perimeter and keep bad actors out. Easier said
>than done. ...
Unfortunately, e-mail walled gardens are a Well Known Bad Idea.
The short version is that any
Ahoj,
Dňa Tue, 28 Dec 2021 18:08:24 +0100 Nicolas JEAN via mailop
napísal:
> Did you encounter the issue of the first IMAP connection not
> forwarding the actual client IP to dovecot?
OK, i try it, and i see it:
imap-login: Login: user=, method=PLAIN, rip=::1, ...
imap-login: Login: user=,
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