Re: [mailop] DKIM headers - which do you sign and why?

2018-07-19 Thread Benjamin BILLON
Maybe it's not a coincidence, but Steve Atkins just made a post about that: https://wordtothewise.com/2018/07/minimal-dmarc/ I would tend to say that the more headers are included in the signature, the "safer" it gets (any change would be suspicious), but this is challengeable and it makes

[mailop] DKIM headers - which do you sign and why?

2018-07-19 Thread Autumn Tyr-Salvia
Hello Email Folks, I work at Agari, where I guide large organizations through the process of getting their email to pass DMARC. I have lately had some customers with greater-than-usual issues relating to aligned authenticated messages that get forwarded, where the forwarding system is changing

Re: [mailop] AWS bring your own IP

2018-07-19 Thread Benjamin BILLON
As John said, the signup form mentions the minimum /24 requirement, so that seems better. Also, that would work with the theory of BGP announcement, as anything smaller than /24 would be filtered out by many networks. I guess the requirement of having IPs provided by ARIN is related to the beta

[mailop] AWS bring your own IP

2018-07-19 Thread Alexander Burch
I had the same initial concern that "bring your own Ip" != "bring thousands of your own IPs" However, that page explicitly lists email senders like ESPs as a use case: "Bring Your Own IP is also useful for applications such as commercial email services that rely on IP address reputation to

Re: [mailop] AWS bring your own IP

2018-07-19 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- >Not sure of the detail of the implementation, but it's named "Bring Your Own >IP", not "Bring your ranges", so it could not fit with ESPs' needs. A few seconds looking at the AWS page reveals that you need to bring at least a /24 that is

Re: [mailop] AWS bring your own IP

2018-07-19 Thread Benjamin BILLON
Not sure of the detail of the implementation, but it's named "Bring Your Own IP", not "Bring your ranges", so it could not fit with ESPs' needs. If it's about BGP announcement, it would probably still be announced by Amazon's ASN (being 16509, 14618 or another one), so the footprint is still

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2018-07-19 Thread Mihai Costea
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[mailop] AWS bring your own IP

2018-07-19 Thread Alexander Burch
Traditionally, ESPs have been unable to use AWS for sending mail because AWS IPs have very bad histories of being used for spam (among other reasons). I believe most ESPs are running their own servers for email or using a managed hosting service of some kind that allows them to use private