Re: [mailop] Website down?

2020-07-27 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
Yeah but in theory he could send email to mailop-requ...@mailop.org and say "set digest off" -- I tested and that seemed to work for me. I emailed Chris and suggested he try it. Cheers, Al Iverson On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:07 PM Simon Lyall via mailop wrote: > > > This below is not correct. The

Re: [mailop] Website down?

2020-07-27 Thread Simon Lyall via mailop
This below is not correct. The list is still running off chilli.nosignal.org (which is having problems). www.mailop.org is the new machine and has list software installed but this is not live. We'd hope to have switched over by now but Global Pandemic etc etc. Simon. Mailop Admin Team.

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Correct way to report SPF issue to Microsoft

2020-07-27 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
And the IP address would be ...? As noted elsewhere, opening a ticket with "Hotmail" will accomplish nothing. “Hotmail” and Office365 are entirely different services. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Open a ticket

Re: [mailop] Google and Spam detection

2020-07-27 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
You seem to have some very strong contrary opinions. You can choose to believe that it's all a conspiracy that you have bravely seen through, or choose to consider why a bunch of fairly intelligent folks can have different opinions on these topics. The advice you've been given is mostly correct.

Re: [mailop] Google and Spam detection

2020-07-27 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article <3961693e-e24a-576c-fb09-cbd1ad610...@backschues.de> you write: >Am 25.07.20 um 04:07 schrieb John Levine via mailop: > >> Gmail has repeatedly said that they do not accept unauthenticated mail >> on IPv6. > >Sorry, but I can not confirm this. > >I've 16x IPv6 MXs that are working fine

Re: [mailop] BIMI pilot @ Google

2020-07-27 Thread Roger Marquis via mailop
John Levine wrote: In article <20200725194707.ga19...@rafa.eu.org> you write: My bank - as I have already mentioned in this thread - S/MIME signs the contents of their messages. ... Where do you live? I've never heard of a bank here in North America doing that. Here they barely undersstand

Re: [mailop] Google and Spam detection

2020-07-27 Thread Jörg Backschues via mailop
Am 25.07.20 um 04:07 schrieb John Levine via mailop: Gmail has repeatedly said that they do not accept unauthenticated mail on IPv6. Sorry, but I can not confirm this. I've 16x IPv6 MXs that are working fine with Gmail w/o authentication. -- Regards Jörg Backschues

Re: [mailop] Correct way to report SPF issue to Microsoft

2020-07-27 Thread David Yost via mailop
Hi folks, I have just had a frustrating exchange of E-mails with some automaton at Microsoft whilst trying to explain the following. I have a domain hosted on 365 where in addition to reading mails in Outlook 365 online, we forward one incoming address externally.  The domain hosted on 365

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: BIMI pilot @ Google

2020-07-27 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 7/27/2020 9:49 AM, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: Is it possible that a complaint that a postmaster's note about what he thinks his users like can't be trusted because it lacks a scientifically rigorous study might possibly be off topic for an operational considerations list? Asking for a

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: BIMI pilot @ Google

2020-07-27 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
Is it possible that a complaint that a postmaster's note about what he thinks his users like can't be trusted because it lacks a scientifically rigorous study might possibly be off topic for an operational considerations list? Asking for a friend. On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:44 AM Dave Crocker via

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: BIMI pilot @ Google

2020-07-27 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 7/27/2020 7:59 AM, Marcel Becker via mailop wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:55 AM Dave Crocker > wrote: My quote above did not claim that. I explained why we participate in BIMI. Perhaps you have data to support a claim of differential user behavior? I am not

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: BIMI pilot @ Google

2020-07-27 Thread Marcel Becker via mailop
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:55 AM Dave Crocker wrote: > > > > My quote above did not claim that. I explained why we participate in > BIMI. > > Perhaps you have data to support a claim of differential user behavior? > I am not sure you read what I wrote.

Re: [mailop] Website down?

2020-07-27 Thread Tom Canich via mailop
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 07:29:27AM -0700, Chris Vitulski via mailop wrote: > I have been trying to reach your site since last week and keep getting > error pages. For some reason when I signed up for the list I don't get the > real time emails, I only get the digest version. Will the website be

[mailop] Website down?

2020-07-27 Thread Chris Vitulski via mailop
I have been trying to reach your site since last week and keep getting error pages. For some reason when I signed up for the list I don't get the real time emails, I only get the digest version. Will the website be back up soon, or can you possibly change this setting for me (I signed up under

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: BIMI pilot @ Google

2020-07-27 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 7/26/2020 7:31 PM, Marcel Becker via mailop wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 11:12 AM Dave Crocker via mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: On 7/22/2020 3:45 PM, Marcel Becker via mailop wrote: > However the majority of our users prefer meaningful avatars and brand >

[mailop] Correct way to report SPF issue to Microsoft

2020-07-27 Thread Paul Thornton via mailop
Hi folks, I have just had a frustrating exchange of E-mails with some automaton at Microsoft whilst trying to explain the following. I have a domain hosted on 365 where in addition to reading mails in Outlook 365 online, we forward one incoming address externally.  The domain hosted on 365