Re: [mailop] Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Philip Paeps via mailop
On 2021-02-25 16:41:36 (+0800), Ignacio García via mailop wrote: I know OVH's not a favorite among pros, but for me, their dedicated servers work well and aren't very expensive.  Can anybody recommend a somewhat similar solution with a better IP segments reputation? I run my outbound mail

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 2/25/21 15:15, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote: Hmm. No indication of how to specify IPv6 addresses. Do people think 256 addresses total is reasonable for IPv 6 ? Reasonable for what? A single subnet of /64 is 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 potential addresses. There's almost never a

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
Hmm. " That does put a damper on our relationship." -- Dread Pirate Wesley Unsure if that is an issue or by design. I've always been a tad unenthusiastic about IPv6 for inter-org mail myself. I know Office365 supports it. Will ask around. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 2/25/21 15:49, Alan Hodgson via mailop wrote: Does Microsoft even accept mail over IPV6? Not for hotmail.com or outlook.com domains, apparently. jay$ dig +short hotmail.com -t mx 2 hotmail-com.olc.protection.outlook.com. jay$ dig +short hotmail-com.olc.protection.outlook.com -t

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
Yes, but it must be authenticated with SPF, DKIM, and DMARC, last I heard. Otherwise ... not happening. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Open a ticket for Hotmail ?

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Steve Holdoway via mailop
last I heard the ip blocklists worked at /64 granularity Had one provider dole them out singly... February 26, 2021 12:48 PM, "Andrew C Aitchison via mailop" wrote: > On Thu, 25 Feb 2021, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > >> https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866 > > Hmm. No

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Alan Hodgson via mailop
On Thu, 2021-02-25 at 23:15 +, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote: > On Thu, 25 Feb 2021, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > >https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866 > > Hmm. No indication of how to specify IPv6 addresses. > Do people think 256 addresses total is reasonable

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
If you're doing IPv6 addresses ... are you using SPF, DKIM *AND* DMARC? Because if not, or if the DKIM doesn't verify, that's the issue. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Open a ticket for Hotmail ? -Original

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866 Hmm. No indication of how to specify IPv6 addresses. Do people think 256 addresses total is reasonable for IPv 6 ? -- Andrew C. Aitchison Kendal,

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
What She Said. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866 Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Open a ticket for Hotmail ? From: mailop On Behalf Of

Re: [mailop] Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Mark Milhollan via mailop
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021, Michael Peddemors wrote: Also, speaking of whois, pet peeve that some of the whois databases never seem to be updated/cleaned up. And some of the biggest don't publish anything. whois 51.79.55.200 Still thinks RIPE is responsible.. Your whois program thinks that --

Re: [mailop] Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 25.02.2021 o godz. 19:44:40 Christof Meerwald via mailop pisze: > On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 07:16:17PM +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > > Dnia 25.02.2021 o godz. 08:48:01 John Capo via mailop pisze: > > > Vultr.com blocks port 25 until you prove who you are and provide a credit > > >

Re: [mailop] Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 25.02.21 um 18:53 schrieb Scott Mutter via mailop: > > In hosting, datacenter renting, situations where we're discussing OVH and > Vultr and other providers, the OWNER of the > IP address doesn't necessarily have the same interest as the USER of the IP > address in terms of mail

Re: [mailop] Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Scott Mutter via mailop
> Aren't things like FBLs, or Google's Postmaster Tools, exactly the thing > that COULD (and IMHO should) be used for this? Ideally, yea, they probably could be. But are Feedback Loops still in use? I've never gotten a single iota from Google's Feedback Loop or Postmaster tools. Maybe there's

Re: [mailop] Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Christof Meerwald via mailop
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 07:16:17PM +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > Dnia 25.02.2021 o godz. 08:48:01 John Capo via mailop pisze: > > Vultr.com blocks port 25 until you prove who you are and provide a credit > > card. A good policy IMHO. > How can you buy a VPS at all without proving who

Re: [mailop] Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 25.02.2021 o godz. 08:48:01 John Capo via mailop pisze: > > Vultr.com blocks port 25 until you prove who you are and provide a credit > card. A good policy IMHO. How can you buy a VPS at all without proving who you are? It's a legal contract - each party of this contract must know the

Re: [mailop] Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Renaud Allard via mailop
On 2/25/21 2:48 PM, John Capo via mailop wrote: On Thu, February 25, 2021 03:41, Ignacio García via mailop wrote: I know OVH's not a favorite among pros, but for me, their dedicated servers work well and aren't very expensive.  Can anybody recommend a somewhat similar solution with a better

Re: [mailop] Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Sam Tuke via mailop
Using the support request page hasn't worked for us for at least 1 year (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/supportrequestform/8ad563e3-288e-2a61-8122-3ba03d6b8d75). Does it work for anyone else? Sam. On 25 February 2021 10:19:47 CET, Bryan Frimin via mailop wrote: >Hello Ignacio, > >> From

Re: [mailop] Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Bryan Frimin via mailop
Hello Ignacio, > From your experience, how long may it take to MS to allow communications > from those IPs? Is there anything else we can do to to help solve this > situation? You can verify your new IP addresses are not listed in blacklists (which can be probable because OVH IP addresses are not

Re: [mailop] Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Renaud Allard via mailop
On 2/25/21 9:41 AM, Ignacio García via mailop wrote: Hi there We are a small ISP for small and medium companies only. We have several email servers hosted at OVH/SoYouStart. Although some OVH IP segments are not of the likes of Microsoft, some of my servers have been running for so long

Re: [mailop] Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 25 Feb 2021, at 08:41, Ignacio García via mailop wrote: > > Hi there > > > We are a small ISP for small and medium companies only. We have several email > servers hosted at OVH/SoYouStart. Although some OVH IP segments are not of > the likes of Microsoft, some of my servers have been

[mailop] Hotmail and block on OVH: possible solutions alternatives?

2021-02-25 Thread Ignacio García via mailop
Hi there We are a small ISP for small and medium companies only. We have several email servers hosted at OVH/SoYouStart. Although some OVH IP segments are not of the likes of Microsoft, some of my servers have been running for so long without any incidents that their IPs have had a normal