Re: [mailop] Ethics Complaint to Princeton (was: Privacy research spam apparently from a grad student at Princeton)

2021-12-19 Thread L. Mark Stone via mailop
Except that, now that they are listed in Spamhaus, those emails won’t be delivered to the recipients—unless they are sent from a Princeton.Edu domain. ___ L. Mark Stone Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 19, 2021, at 3:02 PM, yuv via mailop wrote: > > On Sun, 2021-12-19 at

Re: [mailop] Is outlook.com blocking all Linode IPv4 space?

2021-12-19 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Daniele Nicolodi via mailop said: >I already asked on this list, and I'll ask again: what is a reputable >hot where to park a server these days? I've been happy with tektonic.net who have the usual range of linux, BSD, and Windows VPS. Their prices and tech support are pretty

Re: [mailop] Is outlook.com blocking all Linode IPv4 space?

2021-12-19 Thread Daniele Nicolodi via mailop
On 19/12/2021 21:05, John Levine via mailop wrote: It appears that Jay Hennigan via mailop said: Our investigation has determined that the above IP(s) do not qualify for mitigation. Which roughly translates to "we don't care about receiving email from independent senders". You misspelled

Re: [mailop] Ethics Complaint to Princeton (was: Privacy research spam apparently from a grad student at Princeton)

2021-12-19 Thread yuv via mailop
On Sun, 2021-12-19 at 11:53 -0800, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: > The most obvious and frequently asked question isn't answered or > even acknowledged in their FAQ. When lawyers or snake-oil sellers are involved, FAQ stands for fictionally asked question. And when lawyers of snake-oil sellers

Re: [mailop] Is outlook.com blocking all Linode IPv4 space?

2021-12-19 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Jay Hennigan via mailop said: >> Our investigation has determined that the above IP(s) do not qualify for >> mitigation. >> >> Which roughly translates to "we don't care about receiving email from >> independent senders". > >You misspelled "We deliberately decided not to

Re: [mailop] Ethics Complaint to Princeton (was: Privacy research spam apparently from a grad student at Princeton)

2021-12-19 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 19.12.2021 o godz. 14:52:58 yuv via mailop pisze: > > To me, this was a dead-end. The research was in my view morally wrong, > but legally right and I had no leverage other than appealing to the > researchers' morality because the law is flawed. Again: this may be the right moment to get

Re: [mailop] Ethics Complaint to Princeton (was: Privacy research spam apparently from a grad student at Princeton)

2021-12-19 Thread yuv via mailop
On Sun, 2021-12-19 at 09:51 -0600, Larry M. Smith via mailop wrote: > There has been another update, and appears to be well worth a read. Indeed it is. I have complimented Jonathan for his leadership. His note is what counts. I had used some of my snowy/rainy/slushy weekend to research US law.

Re: [mailop] Is outlook.com blocking all Linode IPv4 space?

2021-12-19 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 12/19/21 06:23, Daniele Nicolodi via mailop wrote: Not qualified for mitigation 109.74.203.128 Our investigation has determined that the above IP(s) do not qualify for mitigation. Which roughly translates to "we don't care about receiving email from independent senders". You misspelled

Re: [mailop] Ethics Complaint to Princeton (was: Privacy research spam apparently from a grad student at Princeton)

2021-12-19 Thread Larry M. Smith via mailop
On 12/18/2021, yuv via mailop wrote: (snip) Their FAQ is up at and it all looks like a lawyers-approved shield to try to justify what they have done. They know they have pushed too far. The question is whether they will learn from this and whether the

[mailop] Experience with SMTP2GO?

2021-12-19 Thread Daniele Nicolodi via mailop
Hello, does anyone have experience in using SMTP2GO Free tier service for sending tiny volume of emails from personal domains? Being grumpy about the failure of SMTP as a federated protocol does not help have email delivered, thus I am looking for options that do not entail going around

Re: [mailop] Is outlook.com blocking all Linode IPv4 space?

2021-12-19 Thread Christof Meerwald via mailop
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 03:23:03PM +0100, Daniele Nicolodi via mailop wrote: > The Linode support team contacted the Microsoft but their intervention did > not have any effect. I contacted them myself through > >

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Comcast contact - IPv6 routing issue?

2021-12-19 Thread Brotman, Alex via mailop
I'll reply off-list as well, see if we can get some additional information. From: mailop on behalf of Jay Hennigan via mailop Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 7:18 PM To: mailop Subject: [EXTERNAL] [mailop] Comcast contact - IPv6 routing issue? Very

Re: [mailop] Is outlook.com blocking all Linode IPv4 space?

2021-12-19 Thread Daniele Nicolodi via mailop
On 06/12/2021 22:13, Daniele Nicolodi via mailop wrote: On 06/12/2021 21:09, Mary via mailop wrote: I had the same experience with outlook.com and servers hosted by many cloud providers, including Linode. The solution with Linode is very simple, just open a ticket and they'll get in touch