I'd love to be able to drop them, but the situation is made in a way that
we can not do anything:
That user configured their bounce domain to pass through us, but we didn't
send their bouncing email in the first place. they use another service for
that.
As long as they point their bounce domain
Heho,
> Please, give us the IP ranges these clowns are using so we can block all
> traffic from them.
Not sure which 'clowns' you refer to;
If this is about the sum of researchers under the mechanics of current academia
which might release crappy measurements to the public, I sadly lack such a
It appears that Tobias Fiebig via mailop said:
>My argument was that it is hardly possible to gain a sufficient understanding
>of many protocols to be able to thoroughly design network
>measurements while accounting for all possible harms within the time available
>for a PhD.
I happen to have
Hello John,
> So if they were competemnt and ethical, tney would stop and find people to
> work with who understand the issues so they can do research that is not
> abusive and could have useful results. Unfortunately, as we have seen, they
> are neither.
I personally believe (and sincerely
... From time to time.
If it can't be handled with the IP delisting form, it's going to be very
difficult for an external party to get a hold of someone in an org that handles
billions of emails a day. And I'm not someone who can do anything about such
issues as a general rule.
Aloha,
It appears that Tobias Fiebig via mailop said:
>Yes, I do, see Footnote ** of my previous mail; But to recap: It is a complex
>problem between how academia is setup, what it incentivizes, what
>it requires, what it rewards, and who does network measurement research
>(usually people without
On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 04:01:30PM -0600, Jarland Donnell via mailop wrote:
> Assuming that doesn't pan out, can you file an abuse complaint with
> their DNS provider? Sure can't hurt anything.
Oddly enough Microsoft's DNS provider is... Microsoft.
Microsoft has an employee participating on this
That's a good idea ! I will do that !
Thank you !
Le mer. 23 nov. 2022, 23:10, Jarland Donnell via mailop
a écrit :
> Assuming that doesn't pan out, can you file an abuse complaint with
> their DNS provider? Sure can't hurt anything.
>
> On 2022-11-23 13:12, Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote:
Assuming that doesn't pan out, can you file an abuse complaint with
their DNS provider? Sure can't hurt anything.
On 2022-11-23 13:12, Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote:
Hi everyone ,
I'm hoping that someone will be able to put me in contact with someone
working at Outlook.
We are still
Hi everyone ,
I'm hoping that someone will be able to put me in contact with someone
working at Outlook.
We are still having a really bad issues regarding our previous discussion
on having a lot of bounces and I'm hoping to have some help from someone ar
Outlook.
Thank you !
Best,
Cyril
Hey Bill,
> Do you know why his students have at least twice in the past engaged in
> deceptive spamming to gather data?
Yes, I do, see Footnote ** of my previous mail; But to recap: It is a complex
problem between how academia is setup, what it incentivizes, what it requires,
what it
Dňa 23. novembra 2022 14:32:51 UTC používateľ "Taejoong (tijay) Chung via
mailop" napísal:
>Yes. As Tobias explained, we can observe certain phenomena (e.g., some mail
>servers look up SPF records more than 100 times) from data, but we don't
>know *why* it happens; we have interviewed around
My apologies for the late response due to Thanksgiving break (happy
holidays!)
We tried hard not to cause any potential GDPR issues and not to fall into
the human subject research category as Tobias and Laura already explained
(thanks!); for example, we intentionally did not use Google Surveys
On 2022-11-23 at 07:54:41 UTC-0500 (Wed, 23 Nov 2022 13:54:41 +0100)
Tobias Fiebig via mailop
is rumored to have said:
Heho,
(Excuse the footnotes; But there is a lot of tangential stuff worth
mentioning, but not necessarily core to the thread.)
Let me weigh in here and provide some context
Heho,
(Excuse the footnotes; But there is a lot of tangential stuff worth mentioning,
but not necessarily core to the thread.)
Let me weigh in here and provide some context as Tijay listed me as a
collaborator, and he seems to be a bit delayed in replies. Tijay is a Professor
at VT, and works
On 11/23/22 10:39, Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote:
I forgot to mention this, but indeed, the first thing we did was contact
them. We had no response, so we blocked them and later realized that the
email contact we had was a black hole on their end, so we reached out
using another email
This is not normal behavior, either by microsoft or your customer. My advice is
the same as it was yesterday: terminate the customer.
Microsoft doesn’t normally send backscatter, so the fact that you’re getting so
much tells me your customer (y’know, the one who didn’t give you a way to
On Tue 22/Nov/2022 16:41:44 +0100 Todd Herr via mailop wrote:
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 2:00 PM Taejoong (tijay) Chung via mailop wrote:
The Sender Policy Framework (SPF) is an easy way to check whether the
sender is authorized to send emails – however, it may cause some security
holes if it
Thank you, everyone, for your response. My timezone differs from yours, so
I'm only replying now.
I forgot to mention this, but indeed, the first thing we did was contact
them. We had no response, so we blocked them and later realized that the
email contact we had was a black hole on their end,
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