Hello,
> you are forgetting that users are stupid. As I've mentioned before I have to
> deal with abuse messages daily because > users press "Junk"
> instead of "Delete" buttons. They don't understand the difference between
> "Junk" and "Trash" or they sort a regular mail response to junk
mails from our customers are rejected. I really would
like to understand how this is possible.
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Hello and thank you.
You’ve explained way better that me what we’re facing and what made me post the
original message.
Reagrds,
Sébastien RICCIO
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> No, it means that Gmail sends vast amounts of mail and most of it is not
> spam. A one message test from a system that sends billions of messages a day
> is hardly statistically significant.
Yes okay. But I still don't get how it can be fair. Our systems sends quite
some volume of mails
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> Nobody ever said it was fair. But I would suggest that if you want to run a
> mail system, you'll have to figure out how to deal with all of the other msil
> > systems
ave no way to know what this is happening as the filtering
techniques are obscure (maybe to protect them, but I'm sure spammers know much
better about it than legit sysadmins...)
Thanks a lot for reading and king regards.
Sébastien RICCIO
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Postfix
Trying 2001:4060:1:1001::12:6...
Connected to 2001:4060:1:1001::12:6.
Escape character is '^]'.
220-idefix.imp.ch ESMTP Postfix
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From: mailop On
as SPAM at
all and that only one message was in their spambox and it went there
automatically.
Aren't feedback loops reporting manual « Mark as spam » only ? Just trying to
figure out what is going on here.
Thanks a lot.
Sébastien RICCIO
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> We've seen this a few times. We've come to the conclusion that it's either
> anti-spam software on the local computer that is automatically moving the
> email into the user's spam folder (and thus marking it as spam), or the users
> are accidentally doing it themselves without realising it.
Hi,
Of course diversity is declining. A lot of legit mails sent from smaller
operators ends up in junk mail mailboxes of these major operators (mostly at
Microsoft mail services).
As small operators we have no real way to clearly understand why this happens,
so the customers, tired of this
From: mailop On Behalf Of Stefano Bagnara via mailop
PS: I REALLY don't think Microsoft is doing filtering for "unfair competition",
as I also receive Microsoft own invoices for an Office365 plan I buy in my
office365 junk folder. I simply guess SmartScreen is somehow "out of control"
(or too
On 23.10.19 08:51, Sébastien Riccio via mailop wrote:
>> This will have to change. Do small operators need to start a petition
>> against this ?
>I'm going to send thoughts and prayers to help! SCNR :)
> But yes, what are you going to do? "Block all mails to big players W
Hi,
We also have a lot of trouble with mails being sent to the junk folder on
Microsoft hosted accounts.
We have no problems with gmail or yahoo.
There is no apparent reason for this, we constantly monitor our gateways IP
reputation, blacklists, and all is green.
This is frustrating because
message here that I removed for this post]
Thanks a lot for your infos and help.
Kind regards,
Sébastien RICCIO
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