Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook

2019-03-16 Thread Jesse Thompson via mailop
=reject for .gov is the goal, even if the people who designed DMARC didn't anticipate mailbox hosters would be able to get there. EDUs and enterprises are starting to follow suit. Jesse From: Alessandro Vesely Sent: Saturday, March 16, 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header

Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook

2019-03-16 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 3/16/19 11:50 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: The issue with ARC is that it means nothing to small servers which don't track domain reputation. They can easily add ARC stuff on forwarding, but won't be able to evaluate incoming chains which may be spoofed. Hence, small servers will have to

Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook

2019-03-16 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Fri 15/Mar/2019 23:46:13 +0100 Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 2:54 PM Jesse Thompson via mailop wrote: >> >> As it stands now, these "conditional" issues are cropping up as unforeseen >> or "poorly planned by IT". Conditional rewriting seems to give a signal that

Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook

2019-03-15 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 2:54 PM Jesse Thompson via mailop wrote: > On 3/13/2019 10:53 PM, Paul Gear via mailop wrote: > > On 12/3/19 11:48 pm, Jesse Thompson via mailop wrote: > >> On 3/12/2019 1:50 AM, Benjamin BILLON wrote: > >>> So, the question is rather why Jesse and Michael's messages

Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook

2019-03-15 Thread Bill Cole
On 15 Mar 2019, at 17:52, Jesse Thompson via mailop wrote: Conditional rewriting seems to give a signal that 100% DMARC adoption by all domain is not the intended goal. Rewriting "From" headers for domains that publish a p=none DMARC record is needlessly user-hostile AND DMARC-hostile. Of

Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook

2019-03-15 Thread Jesse Thompson via mailop
On 3/13/2019 10:53 PM, Paul Gear via mailop wrote: > On 12/3/19 11:48 pm, Jesse Thompson via mailop wrote: >> On 3/12/2019 1:50 AM, Benjamin BILLON wrote: >>> So, the question is rather why Jesse and Michael's messages contain a >>> Reply-To: header, and not yours. >>> >>> (What will my contain?

Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook

2019-03-13 Thread Paul Gear via mailop
On 12/3/19 11:48 pm, Jesse Thompson via mailop wrote: > On 3/12/2019 1:50 AM, Benjamin BILLON wrote: >> So, the question is rather why Jesse and Michael's messages contain a >> Reply-To: header, and not yours. >> >> (What will my contain? Surprise surprise! Using Outlook) > Well, splio.com

Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook

2019-03-12 Thread Jesse Thompson via mailop
>? > > *From:* mailop *On Behalf Of *Jesse Thompson > via mailop > *Sent:* Monday, March 11, 2019 3:24 PM > *To:* mailop@mailop.org > *Subject:* [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook > > Hi all, > > We're making a push to get mailing l

Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook

2019-03-12 Thread Jesse Thompson via mailop
On 3/12/2019 3:36 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On Tue 12/Mar/2019 02:43:38 +0100 Neil Jenkins wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, at 09:26, Jesse Thompson via mailop wrote: >>> When someone reply-alls to a munged message it only composes a message to >>> the >>> Reply-to and the Cc, but ignores the

Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook

2019-03-12 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Tue 12/Mar/2019 02:43:38 +0100 Neil Jenkins wrote: > On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, at 09:26, Jesse Thompson via mailop wrote: >> When someone reply-alls to a munged message it only composes a message to the >> Reply-to and the Cc, but ignores the From (the list address is munged into >> the From

Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook

2019-03-12 Thread Benjamin BILLON
in Outlook to display the sender's address along with (or instead of) the sender's name. -- Benjamin From: mailop On Behalf Of Neil Jenkins Sent: mardi 12 mars 2019 02:44 To: Mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, at 09:26, Jesse Th

Re: [mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook

2019-03-11 Thread Neil Jenkins
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, at 09:26, Jesse Thompson via mailop wrote: > When someone reply-alls to a munged message it only composes a message to the > Reply-to and the Cc, but ignores the From (the list address is munged into > the From header). That sounds exactly what I would expect for "Reply

[mailop] Mailing list with From header munging... and Outlook

2019-03-11 Thread Jesse Thompson via mailop
Hi all, We're making a push to get mailing lists to implement header munging because of gov domains adopting DMARC p=reject. Does anyone know what's up with Outlook (Office 365 Pro Plus) when "Reply All" is used? When someone reply-alls to a munged message it only composes a message to the