Re: [mailop] Sendgrid abuse forwarding to Google - not one of your brightest ideas

2023-03-22 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 3/22/23 01:35, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: I tried to report a phishing spam to Sendgrid, and look what I got: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - (reason: 552-5.7.0 This message was blocked because its content presents a potential) -

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid abuse forwarding to Google - not one of your brightest ideas

2023-03-22 Thread Mickey Chandler via mailop
Eh. Sendgrid isn't a mailbox provider. Holding them to that standard of things isn't the right way of looking at it. For an Email Service Provider (like Sendgrid), the headers likely do have the information to find the outgoing job where the actual messages were built and there will be

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid abuse forwarding to Google - not one of your brightest ideas

2023-03-22 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via mailop
Thats why the systems should be able to fish out based on for example Message-ID, and for additional security, AES-256 encrypt the message with the SHA256 hash of the message ID.Of course only abuse department should have access to these tools.Thus you dont need to rummage through people's

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid abuse forwarding to Google - not one of your brightest ideas

2023-03-22 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2023-03-22 at 05:01:53 UTC-0400 (Wed, 22 Mar 2023 10:01:53 +0100) Sebastian Nielsen via mailop is rumored to have said: A good idea when you get this type of response, just include the full headersand not the actual body of message.A competent abuse department should be able to fish out a

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid abuse forwarding to Google - not one of your brightest ideas

2023-03-22 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 10:01:53 +0100, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote: >A good idea when you get this type of response, just include the full >headersand not the actual body of message.A competent abuse department should >be able to fish out a verbatim copy of the message being reported in

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid abuse forwarding to Google - not one of your brightest ideas

2023-03-22 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 22.03.2023 o godz. 10:01:53 Sebastian Nielsen via mailop pisze: > A good idea when you get this type of response, just include the full > headersand not the actual body of message.A competent abuse department > should be able to fish out a verbatim copy of the message being reported > in

Re: [mailop] Sendgrid abuse forwarding to Google - not one of your brightest ideas

2023-03-22 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via mailop
A good idea when you get this type of response, just include the full headersand not the actual body of message.A competent abuse department should be able to fish out a verbatim copy of the message being reported in their logging systems using the headers alone. Originalmeddelande

[mailop] Sendgrid abuse forwarding to Google - not one of your brightest ideas

2023-03-22 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
I tried to report a phishing spam to Sendgrid, and look what I got: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - (reason: 552-5.7.0 This message was blocked because its content presents a potential) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to