Re: [mailop] Erroneous Hotmail spam/junk JMR email due to recipient error, where's the operator feedback loop?

2019-10-09 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 8.10.2019 o godz. 14:05:20 Brandon Long via mailop pisze: > At one point when I was complaining about the Gmail UI for that, I did a > survey, and several competing products used the exact opposite > iconography for spam/trask, > just leading to more user confusion... and us making sure to

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-09 Thread John Levine via mailop
In article <20191008101859.ga12...@rafa.eu.org> you write: >Dnia 8.10.2019 o godz. 13:42:32 Matt Palmer via mailop pisze: >> >> The other commonality is that AWS EC2 is at least as much of a pit of spam >> and abuse as OVH is, and I'm not surprised that you don't get treated better >> by GMail

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-09 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 9.10.2019 o godz. 13:23:16 John Levine via mailop pisze: > If you're not willing to pay 10€ for a real domain name, why should anyone > put any effort into accepting your mail? Just because you should by default accept mail from everyone *unless* the sender proved to be

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-09 Thread Chris Wedgwood via mailop
> Just because you should by default accept mail from everyone > *unless* the sender proved to be nasty/harmful/mailicious etc.? what if the look quite plausibly harmful? > Otherwise you are breaking the very purpose of e-mail. surely the purpose depends on the user? different people will have

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-09 Thread John R Levine via mailop
Just because you should by default accept mail from everyone *unless* the sender proved to be nasty/harmful/mailicious etc.? what if the look quite plausibly harmful? Right. I didn't get the message you were responding to, so I looked in the logs and see the IP is in the middle of a block