Re: [mailop] SPF record

2017-05-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > > At least a Mailing List is in a position to rewrite the headers so that SPF > works when it sends the traffic out. > Yep, but only those managed by ppl who know how to keep things updated, patched, etc. Lots of bad managed mai

[mailop] SPF failures at Yahoo

2017-10-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
Is there someone from Yahoo! who can provide some insight into why there is always 1 SPF lookup failure in your DMARC reports. http://domainmail.org/reports/yahoo.com!netcoolusers.org!1506556800!1506643199.xml http://domainmail.org/reports/yahoo.com!netcoolusers.org!1506988800!1507075199.xml htt

Re: [mailop] SPF failures at Yahoo

2017-10-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Oct 27, 2017 11:42, "Jim Popovitch" wrote: Is there someone from Yahoo! who can provide some insight into why there is always 1 SPF lookup failure in your DMARC reports. http://domainmail.org/reports/yahoo.com!netcoolusers.org!150 6556800!1506643199.xml http://domainmail.o

Re: [mailop] SPF recommendations (was: Re: Earthlink trouble with our PTR)

2017-12-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Vladimir Dubrovin via mailop wrote: > > In fact, you should not use "-all" for your mail domain if you care > about deliverability. FALSE! (Also, you should not randomly add CC recipients to the same mailinglist that you are responding to) Aside from a few HUGE

Re: [mailop] SPF recommendations (was: Re: Earthlink trouble with our PTR)

2017-12-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Bill Cole wrote: > On 14 Dec 2017, at 14:01 (-0500), Jim Popovitch wrote: > >> Aside from a few HUGE providers, those with very large and disparate >> networks/offices/topology > > > SPF isn't related to the complexity of a net

Re: [mailop] Monitoring email delivery

2015-01-29 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > > On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Tara Natanson wrote: > > I think this is what most people outsource to companies like RP and > 250ok.com, seed list monitoring? > > Seems like a hefty thing to build yourself when its been done and automated

Re: [mailop] Yahoo.com/frontiernet.net delivery delays

2015-06-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Carl Byington wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 10:13 -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: >> Anyone else seeing the same thing? > > Same here. > > delay=00:31:30, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp, pri=215046, > relay=mta6.am0.yaho

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available?

2015-09-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Marc Perkel wrote: > Hi Brian, > > I'm having problem with Microsoft too. It's just plain weird. Sometimes it > takes 6 hours to deliver an email. And I can't quite understand what is > happening. > > I'm in the front end spam filtering business. Email comes to me

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft Contact Available?

2015-09-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Laura Atkins wrote: >> >> I'm seeing it for confirmed-opt-in list subscribers using >> hotmail/live/outlook addrs. >> >> And the beauty is I'm getting mailbombed by MS about 1918 addrs: >> >>From: st...@hotmail.com >>To: postmas...@domainmail.org >>Subje

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft/Outlook - getting their attention

2015-09-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Brandon Long wrote: > In general, I'd be surprised if we spam folder mailop, though given it's a > mailing list and several of the participants have dmarc p=reject or > p=quaruntine enabled and the list isn't set up to handle that, not really > surprised. > > Brando

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft/Outlook - getting their attention

2015-09-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Laura Atkins wrote: > >> On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Brandon Long wrote: >>> In general, I'd be surprised if we spam folder mailop, though given it's a >>

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft/Outlook - getting their attention

2015-09-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > or Google... > Guess what, Google allows their DMARC'ed domain to send to GMail users via 3rd party systems (i.e. mailop), so I do get Brandon's emails to various lists. It's odd, from my perspective, to say the least. :-) -Jim P. ___

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft/Outlook - getting their attention

2015-09-04 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Brandon Long wrote: > There's magic sauce to try and split hairs, and it's not perfect. Yep, that is why I mentioned it. Let me ask: does your company split hairs because the spec is possibly flawed, or is this a case of bad implementation? I only ask because I

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft/Outlook - getting their attention

2015-09-04 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Franck Martin wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Brandon Long wrote: >>> There's magic sauce to try and split hairs, and it's not perfect. >> >> Yep, tha

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Microsoft/Outlook - getting their attention

2015-09-04 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Franck Martin >> wrote: > > > You know you are there, when they impersonate you But if you didn't poi

Re: [mailop] The way ahead

2015-10-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Franck Martin wrote: > I thought I would post the following, to make sure everyone is aware and > getting prepared. > > https://dmarc.org/2015/10/global-mailbox-providers-deploying-dmarc-to-protect-users/ > > Yahoo Expanding Use of Strict DMARC Policies > Enabling

Re: [mailop] The way ahead

2015-10-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Kurt Andersen (b) wrote: > +arc-discuss > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> >> This has a feeling of "cart before the horse". :-) Mailman, and >> presumably other list mangers, now

Re: [mailop] The way ahead

2015-10-23 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Renaud Allard wrote: > So maybe all of this *** stuff is not so bad if it brings more verifications > which can be used to restore reliability of email delivery. We're going on at least 15 years now of people making that similar statement. :-) -Jim P. _

[mailop] IBM SPF vs smtp.notes.na.collabserv.com

2016-01-06 Thread Jim Popovitch
Dear IBM, Please fix your SPF record. It's 2016, you can't honestly expect people to accept email from peo...@us.ibm.com when the sending host is smtp.notes.na.collabserv.com -Jim P. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.o

Re: [mailop] IBM SPF vs smtp.notes.na.collabserv.com

2016-01-06 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:10 PM, John Levine wrote: >>Please fix your SPF record. It's 2016, you can't honestly expect >>people to accept email from peo...@us.ibm.com when the sending host is >> smtp.notes.na.collabserv.com > > The SPF record ends with ~all so why not? Because it triggers SPF_SOF

Re: [mailop] IBM SPF vs smtp.notes.na.collabserv.com

2016-01-06 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:10 PM, John Levine wrote: >>>Please fix your SPF record. It's 2016, you can't honestly expect >>>people to accept email from peo...@us.ibm.com when the sending host is >>> sm

Re: [mailop] mailop + DMARC + mailman = mung_from

2016-02-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Al Iverson wrote: > IMHO, Mailman should strip the existing DKIM header and Mailop.org should > sign anew. Yes! That is the perfect and proper way, despite some rants by less experienced mailinglist operators. Mailman has a REMOVE_DKIM_HEADERS setting in mm_cf

Re: [mailop] mailop + DMARC + mailman = mung_from

2016-02-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:46 PM, John Levine wrote: >>> IMHO, Mailman should strip the existing DKIM header and Mailop.org should >>> sign anew. >> >>Yes! That is the perfect and proper way, despite some rants by less >>experienced mailinglist operators. > > Hi. I've been running mailing lists

Re: [mailop] DNS Errors for Microsoft Hostnames

2016-04-28 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Rob Heilman wrote: > pitt-edu.mail.protection.outlook.com I haven't been following this discussion, but for the purpose of providing some historical perspective... pitt.edu seemed to have signed their DNS two weekends ago, and upmc.edu signed their DNS last weeke

[mailop] ADSP query: '_adsp._domainkey.live.com' reply was unresolved CNAME

2016-05-02 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hello, Why am I seeing a hostname as the reply for an ADSP lookup? ~$ dig TXT _adsp._domainkey.live.com rds.live.com.nsatc.net. Shouldn't I be seeing something like this: ~$ dig TXT _adsp._domainkey.domainmail.org "dkim=unknown" -Jim P. ___ mailop

Re: [mailop] ADSP query: '_adsp._domainkey.live.com' reply was unresolved CNAME

2016-05-02 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: > >> On May 2, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Why am I seeing a hostname as the reply for an ADSP lookup? >> >> ~$ dig TXT _adsp._domainkey.live.com >> rds.li

Re: [mailop] Multiple DKIM signatures -- any benefit or detriment?

2016-05-20 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: > >> On May 20, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Michael Rathbun wrote: >> >> A client who is more on top of things than the average has noticed some >> mailings to him that have two DKIM signatures, and wondered whether there was >> some advantage to that. >

Re: [mailop] Multiple DKIM signatures -- any benefit or detriment?

2016-05-20 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Kurt Andersen (b) wrote: > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: >> > >> > DKIM is designed to support multiple signatures. There are many >> &g

Re: [mailop] Multiple DKIM signatures -- any benefit or detriment?

2016-05-20 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Kurt Andersen (b) wrote: > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Kurt Andersen (b) >> wrote: >> > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> &g

Re: [mailop] Multiple DKIM signatures -- any benefit or detriment?

2016-05-21 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Michael Rathbun wrote: > On Fri, 20 May 2016 17:00:37 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > >>Give me a (real world) example of how 2 DKIM sigs will be in the same >>email msg and both sigs will verify. > > Here are two: > >>Auth

Re: [mailop] Multiple DKIM signatures -- any benefit or detriment?

2016-05-21 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: > >> On May 21, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Michael Rathbun wrote: >>> On Fri, 20 May 2016 17:00:37 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: >>> >>>>

Re: [mailop] Multiple DKIM signatures -- any benefit or detriment?

2016-05-21 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: > >> On May 21, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: >>> >>>> On May 21, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >>>> >&g

Re: [mailop] Yahoo! issues for a while today?

2016-05-24 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: > We saw a few messages backed up with our email server logging these items: > Site yahoo.com (63.250.192.46) said in response to MAIL FROM (451 > 4.3.2 Internal error reading data) > Site yahoo.com (98.136.216.25) said after data

Re: [mailop] Multiple DKIM signatures -- any benefit or detriment?

2016-05-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: > > On May 21, 2016, at 2:05 PM, Kurt Andersen (b) wrote: >> >> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >>> >>> Some explanation for my deep curiosity Mailman (which I hack on &g

Re: [mailop] New comment - [#503261] Re: Microsoft holding IPs hostage?

2016-06-08 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:55 AM, Robert Hong wrote: > > Our sincere apologies. We've unsubscribed from the list with the address > which is connected to our ticketing system while we investigate the matter. > I suspect an update has been made recently by our supplier... I can't be alone in wonder

Re: [mailop] why "not comply with best practices" on SpamRats?

2016-06-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > > 163 is an email provider that I doubt provides dynamic IP space of any sort. > And as Junping says, 700 million mailboxes. Well north of 30 million, like > I said :) Where does 123.com fit into all this? http://paste.debian.ne

Re: [mailop] why "not comply with best practices" on SpamRats?

2016-06-14 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Peter Bowen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian >> wrote: >>> >>> 163 is an email provider that I doubt provides dynamic IP space of any s

[mailop] DKIM + mailinglists (rehash)

2016-06-16 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hello! If Mailman (and other MLMs) would provide some header data that listed msg modifications (i.e. pre-pended subject with 6 chars, post-pended body with 6 lines, etc), would this be beneficial for anyone to use in order to reconstruct an original msg and validate the original DKIM sig (X-Googl

Re: [mailop] How many more RBL's do we really need?

2016-08-30 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Aug 30, 2016 05:10, "Neil Schwartzman" wrote: > > Users, like all humans, make errors. Are sys admins the sole tranche immune to such things? Somehow, I doubt it. > But what should be done about those who repeat their errors...within 5 months of their last error... -Jim P. ___

Re: [mailop] Google: Increase in false positives?

2016-09-02 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 4:28 AM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > The spam team would love to send all unauthed mail to the spam label or even > reject it (they call it no auth no entry). I'd love to see "no auth no entry", but I'd prefer to see native PGP. ;-) -Jim P. ___

Re: [mailop] Google: Increase in false positives?

2016-09-02 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 11:12 PM, John Levine wrote: >>But I'm not sure what native would look like. After Lavabit, would the >>type of folks who use pgp actually trust our implementation if they >>couldn't see it and verify it? > > In my experience there are two kinds of PGP users. One is the ha

Re: [mailop] Massive Spam advertizing .xyz domains

2016-10-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Oct 13, 2016 07:46, "Stefan Haunß" wrote: > > the question is what's behind those domains? i didn't have the time to > analyze it, yet. > Super cheap, and further discounted first-year, registration fees. -Jim P. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailo

Re: [mailop] Barracuda hosted spam filtering having issues?

2016-11-02 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Eric Tykwinski wrote: > I'm seeing a lot of session timeouts on connections to > .ess.barracudanetworks.com servers. > Just checking to see if it's a known issue... Same here (domainmail.org). At first it looked like they had SSL issues (http://paste.debian.ne

Re: [mailop] Yahoo blacklist removal

2016-11-16 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, David Sgro, Dataspindle wrote: > Check Proofpoint.com to see if you listed > https://support.proofpoint.com/rbl-lookup.cgi?ip= It's almost the end of the 2nd decade of the 2nd century that IPv6 has been in use... I would have thought ProofPoint would be out to pr

Re: [mailop] Storing 821 envelope recipients in an 822.Header?

2016-12-07 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 12:17 PM, John Levine wrote: >>5. Does not override existing specifications that legislate the use >>of "X-" for particular application protocols (e.g., the "x-name" >>token in [RFC5545]); this is a matter for the designers of those >>protocols. >> >

Re: [mailop] Storing 821 envelope recipients in an 822.Header?

2016-12-07 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Eric Henson wrote: > Just be aware that using XY will have you labeled as misogynist , XX will > have you labeled a SJW, and XXX will get you blocked by porn filters. > > :-) Damn the world is complicated. All I was thinking of was Pokémon. -Jim P.

Re: [mailop] AOL Service unavailable on connect

2017-01-23 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Derek Diget wrote: > > Anyone else seeing connection issues to AOL? Saturday morning (EST) we > started getting > > 421 mtaig-maa03.mx.aol.com Service unavailable - try again later > Yep, ~$ mailq Queue ID- --Size-- ---Arrival Time --Sender

Re: [mailop] AOL Service unavailable on connect

2017-01-23 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Lili Crowley wrote: > We are working on an issue here that is causing this problem. I see it as resolved now, Thank you Lili and TeamAOL. -Jim P. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/c

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

2017-04-09 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Apr 9, 2017 13:07, "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." wrote: This brings up a good point...back in 'the day' folks would report spam on NANAE; is there a managed, moderated mailing list to report spam, that has the main ESPs and such on it? SDLU ? -Jim P.

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

2017-04-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Apr 10, 2017 12:15, "Laura Atkins" wrote: On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Apr 9, 2017 13:07, "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." wrote: This brings up a good point...back in 'the day' folks would report spam on NANAE; is there a managed, moderat

Re: [mailop] Issues With the way Google Groups unsubscribe is used in headers..

2018-02-07 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On February 8, 2018 1:05:59 AM UTC, Michael Peddemors wrote: >Spammers are abusing Google Groups lists of course, and I am sure they >are working on it, but the issue is with the unsubscribe URL methods.. >Comments at the bottom of the example.. > I've been reporting this to Google for 4 week

Re: [mailop] No MX records for mail.mil

2018-05-03 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Thu, 2018-05-03 at 09:33 -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: > This doesn’t look so good, though: > http://dnsviz.net/d/mail.mil/dnssec/ but this did: http://dnsviz.net/d/mail.mil/WsaG2w/dnssec/   and before that there was: http://dnsviz.net/d/mail.mil/Wusx

Re: [mailop] No MX records for mail.mil

2018-05-03 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On May 3, 2018 5:02:22 PM UTC, Frank Bulk wrote: >It's all good now -- someone figured it out and fixed it. =) > Thank the stars that this month has 31 days, so June is a bit further out before we have to hear about this again. :-) -Jim P signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___

Re: [mailop] Should mail servers publish IPv6 MX records? Could this harm your spam filtering?

2018-06-08 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 10:27 -0400, Rob McEwen wrote: > there has to be some justified level of "collateral damage" these > days, due to the very high frequency of hijacked accounts, hijacked > websites, and spamming ESP customers (from ESP that are o

Re: [mailop] Should mail servers publish IPv6 MX records? Could this harm your spam filtering?

2018-06-08 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 17:21 +0200, Stefano Bagnara wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 at 16:47, Jim Popovitch via mailop org> wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 10:27 -0400, Rob McEwen wrote: > > > there has to be some justified level

Re: [mailop] QQ Postmaster

2018-07-16 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 17:46 -0400, Vick Khera wrote: > I'd be curious to know if you are successful. My recollection is they > just spam you if you are outside of China. FTFY! ;-) - -Jim P. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEPxwe8uYBnq

Re: [mailop] DKIM headers - which do you sign and why?

2018-07-23 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, 2018-07-24 at 00:30 +0200, Stefano Bagnara wrote: > And still I'm honestly looking for stats about how many domains are > really currently sending DMARC reports to senders (I get reports for > much less than 1% of my recipients: is it what yo

[mailop] messagingengine.com / fastmail.com

2018-09-05 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Can someone from messagingengine.com/fastmail.com please contact me. I'm seeing lots of: 4251pv49w5z118G   5091 Wed Sep  5 11:35:35 list-boun...@spammers.dontlike.us (host in1-smtp.messagingengine.com[66.111.4.73] refused to talk to me: 451 4.7

Re: [mailop] RESOLVED messagingengine.com / fastmail.com

2018-09-05 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
forwarding him the spam email that triggered the listing. There's a meme jpg floating around that I swear is not entirely accurate. ;-) - -Jim P. On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 08:05 +1000, Marc Bradshaw via mailop wrote: > Replied off list. > > > - Original message - >

Re: [mailop] Expires SSL cert for mailop

2018-10-29 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 09:52 -0400, Bill Cole wrote: > On 29 Oct 2018, at 5:44, Frands Bjerring Hansen wrote: > > > Noel,  > > > > LE does not insist on certbot. They recommend it, and why wouldn't  > > they? :)  > > > > Use acme.sh instead if you

Re: [mailop] Expires SSL cert for mailop

2018-10-29 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 11:31 -0400, Dave Brockman wrote: > On 10/29/2018 10:40 AM, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote: > > You allow nsupdate from your cgi/php/java enabled webserver(s)?   > > > > -Jim P. > > No, the whole point of using acme.sh and the nsupdate module

Re: [mailop] Expires SSL cert for mailop

2018-10-29 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 12:32 -0400, Bill Cole wrote: > On 29 Oct 2018, at 10:40, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote: > > > You allow nsupdate from your cgi/php/java enabled webserver(s)? > > My **what?*** Are you high? Do you mean to be insulting??? Of course not. I only asked

Re: [mailop] Expires SSL cert for mailop

2018-10-29 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 13:18 -0400, Bill Cole wrote: > On 29 Oct 2018, at 12:41, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote: > > > N.B. please don't CC me, I'm subscribed to the list. > > I normally wouldn't, but your posts all have this header: > >    Reply-To: J

Re: [mailop] Unsubscribe

2018-10-31 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On October 31, 2018 3:37:12 PM UTC, Tracy Morgan wrote: >Please unsubscribe me. > >[id:image001.png@01D36CE4.60810D90] > >Tracy Morgan | DIGITAL CAMPAIGN SPECIALIST > There is a certain irony in a bulk sender asking for others to intervene and unsubscribe them. -Jim P. _

Re: [mailop] Fwd: Looks like we'll be seeing a big breach notification surge...

2018-11-30 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On December 1, 2018 12:22:21 AM UTC, "Kurt Andersen (b)" wrote: >One of about 5 hyphenated *marriott* domains that I have received mail >from over the last year :-P > It's the not unique to Marriott, Prudential does the same..same exact format. I wonder if all these companies were identified

Re: [mailop] emailreg.org is down

2019-01-08 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 13:56 +, Mathieu Bourdin wrote: > Wasnt that the paying "service"? I think remember something like 20$ > for getting delisted for each IP or domain. Yep, that's $20 per year. The $$ isn't to fund their vacations or service, the $$ is to validate the responsible entity be

Re: [mailop] emailreg.org is down

2019-01-08 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 15:06 +, Olaf Petry - Hornetsecurity wrote: > > > the $$ is to validate the responsible entity behind a sending > > > domain that is whitelisted > > > You are kidding, don't you? No I am not kidding. > Which spammer would not pay that fee if they would be interested to

Re: [mailop] emailreg.org is down

2019-01-08 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 11:26 -0500, Rob McEwen wrote: > On 1/8/2019 10:26 AM, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote: > > > Which spammer would not pay that fee if they would be interested > > > to > > > get whitelisted? > > > > That's not how it works, and

Re: [mailop] emailreg.org is down

2019-01-08 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 12:04 -0500, Rob McEwen wrote: > On 1/8/2019 11:46 AM, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote: > > The same has been said about HTML emails...but that hasn't stopped > > folks from using them.;-) > > "apples to oranges" comparison - sort of lik

Re: [mailop] emailreg.org is down

2019-01-08 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 18:03 +, Olaf Petry - Hornetsecurity wrote: > > > If the barrier had been $1000, then sure > > > I would have said "it's extortion", but it wasn't.   > > Where does the extortion barrier start in your opinion? 1000, 500, > 100, 20 or 1 Buck? Any value greater than a reas

Re: [mailop] emailreg.org is down

2019-01-08 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 16:36 -0500, Rob McEwen wrote: > On 1/8/2019 4:26 PM, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote: > > Any value greater than a reasonable amount to provide a > > communications > > portal, and actual communications with, the entity requesting the > > de- >

Re: [mailop] emailreg.org is down

2019-01-10 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Thu, 2019-01-10 at 09:33 -0500, Rob McEwen wrote: > ... [snip] ... > > So I'll stop here and quit before I put my foot in my mouth! But ya didn't, did ya? Look dude, everybody has opinions. You are de-valuing mine, strictly because I have a biz agreement with some entity you dislike. Pffft.

Re: [mailop] emailreg.org is down

2019-01-10 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Thu, 2019-01-10 at 11:37 -0500, Rob McEwen wrote: > On 1/10/2019 10:44 AM, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote: > > you are de-valuing mine,  > > Actually, your opinion about these organizations was important and > noteworthy. if someone has a conflict of interest, it *is* helpful

Re: [mailop] how can we get better?

2019-01-19 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 17:07 +, Benjamin BILLON wrote: > I'm not convinced Mailop is the best place to get help on your very > specific deliverability issues. You might want join slack workspaces > like "emailgeeks" to discuss that, FWIW, Slack's a bit odd about workspaces. From: https://emai

Re: [mailop] how can we get better?

2019-01-20 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Sun, 2019-01-20 at 09:28 +, Laura Atkins wrote: > > On 19 Jan 2019, at 09:42, Jim Popovitch via mailop > rg> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 17:07 +, Benjamin BILLON wrote: > > > I'm not convinced Mailop is the best place to get

Re: [mailop] Outlook/Hotmail Blacklist

2019-03-12 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wed, 2019-03-06 at 16:03 -0500, Scott Mutter wrote: > Hello list > > I'm looking for any assistance in trying to get off of an Outlook/Hotmail > mailinst list with Microsoft. Received: from hawk.wznoc.com ([209.140.28.140]) envelope-from

Re: [mailop] Outlook/Hotmail Blacklist

2019-03-13 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wed, 2019-03-13 at 13:50 -0400, Scott Mutter wrote: > >Received: from hawk.wznoc.com ([209.140.28.140]) > >envelope-from > >From: Scott Mutter > >Message-ID: <20190306210316.gb19...@ams-salesandsupport.com> > > > > That's 3 diff

Re: [mailop] Admin: Gmail users of mailop suspended due to bounces.

2019-04-28 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On April 29, 2019 3:46:03 AM UTC, John Levine via mailop wrote: > >Still waiting to hear when mailop.org adds its SPF record. Didn't it take almost 2 years the last time we waited on mailop.org to fix a cert?😊 -Jim P. On mobile so pls excuse any brevity, typos, lack of taste, crudeness, down

Re: [mailop] Mail problem with Outlook/Hotmail and mail.python.org

2019-06-30 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On June 30, 2019 11:31:49 AM UTC, Ralf Hildebrandt via mailop wrote: >I'm in the postmas...@python.org team. >https://sendersupport.olc.protection.outlook.com/snds/ is displaying >the IP for mail.python.org (188.166.95.178) as red/yellow. > >We're seing a constant stream of mails to Outlook/Hotm

Re: [mailop] Help - Tucows/OpenSRS

2019-09-09 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On September 9, 2019 7:12:14 PM UTC, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: > Looks like OpenSRS is sending domain verification emails with a from > address of the domain technical contact. Not authenticated, as far as > I can tell, and it probably violates a domain's DMARC policy, if they > have a restric

Re: [mailop] Help - Tucows/OpenSRS

2019-09-10 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Tue, 2019-09-10 at 08:15 -0500, Michael Rathbun via mailop wrote: > On Mon, 09 Sep 2019 22:32:39 -0400, Jim Popovitch via mailop > wrote: > > > Oh my gawd, don't get me started on their support desk. > > I have to admit that I liked them a lot more when TUCOWS

Re: [mailop] Proofpoint Contact

2023-10-05 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
> In the past, I've found them to be totally unresponsive and gave up on > them. That can't be right.  I literally contacted them a few days ago and had a successful response (unlisting) within minutes during US business hours.   Go here, put in your IP address, and they give you an opportunity t

Re: [mailop] why does this list break DKIM?

2020-02-11 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 11:34 +0100, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote: > On Sun 09/Feb/2020 00:33:34 +0100 Simon Lyall via mailop wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Feb 2020, Aragon Gouveia via mailop wrote: > > > Does anyone know why this list breaks DKIM verification? In particular it > > > looks like it's al

Re: [mailop] BIMI pilot @ Google

2020-07-22 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Wed, 2020-07-22 at 14:49 +0200, Sidsel Jensen via mailop wrote: > but if the effect is that it will drive up the adoption rate for DMARC then I > am clapping my hands. "Once verified, the BIMI file tells the email service where to find the sender’s logo and the email service pulls that logo in

Re: [mailop] BIMI pilot @ Google

2020-07-22 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Thu, 2020-07-23 at 00:19 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > Dnia 22.07.2020 o godz. 14:27:52 Jim Popovitch via mailop pisze: > > "Once verified, the BIMI file tells the email service where to find the > > sender’s logo and the email service pulls that logo into the inb

Re: [mailop] BIMI pilot @ Google

2020-07-22 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Wed, 2020-07-22 at 11:56 -0700, Marcel Becker via mailop wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 11:35 AM Jim Popovitch via mailop > wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-07-22 at 14:49 +0200, Sidsel Jensen via mailop wrote: > > > but if the effect is that it will drive up the

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-19 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 12:24 +0200, Andreas Schamanek via mailop wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2020, at 09:51, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > > > Since yesterday I've been seeing a large number of attempted > > subscriptions to all the public lists on one of my Mailman servers. > > (...) > > I can conf

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-20 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 09:43 +0800, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: > On 2020-08-20 05:17:09 (+0800), Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > > BotNet? > > Were they listed in the SpamHaus XBL as being compromised? > > The problem is that the subscriptions come in through the Mailman web > interface, not

Re: [mailop] [ADMIN] List migration complete

2020-09-30 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Wed, 2020-09-30 at 12:08 +0200, Patrick Ben Koetter via mailop wrote: > Bjoern! > > * Bjoern Franke via mailop : > > Hi, > > > > > FYI we have, finally, completed the mailing list migration to a new VM. > > > > > > Firstly: many, many thanks to Andy Davidson for administering & hosting > > >

Re: [mailop] [ADMIN] List migration complete

2020-09-30 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Wed, 2020-09-30 at 22:07 +1300, Simon Lyall via mailop wrote: > I've just gone though some unsubscribes for the last few days ago > hopefully we are now synced. If you have unsubscribed from the list > recently and are still subscribed then please unsubscribe again and it > should stick. > >

Re: [mailop] opendkim bad signature data from mx.mailop.org

2020-11-07 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Sat, 2020-11-07 at 17:08 +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > Dnia 7.11.2020 o godz. 11:58:03 Mary via mailop pisze: > > In another mailing list, they automatically replace the From: with > > something like "Mary via listname ", then its easy to > > re-sign the email with the list DKIM sign

Re: [mailop] New server email being treated as spam by Google

2020-11-21 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 13:59 +0100, Thomas Walter via mailop wrote: > Hello, > > On 21.11.20 12:54, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > > You can configure your MTA to disable IPv6 only for delivery to Google - at > > least with Postfix it should be possible. > > how would one do that? With a custo

Re: [mailop] New server email being treated as spam by Google

2020-11-23 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
On Mon, 2020-11-23 at 10:15 +0100, Ewald Kessler | Webpower wrote: > Hi Jim, > > There's one 'e' too many > > > googleemail.com smtp-v4: Heh, Thanks. I've had that like that for close to a decade now and never realized that. -Jim P. ___ m

Re: [mailop] Is it something to worry about?

2021-01-20 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 11:21 +0100, Renaud Allard via mailop wrote: > > I agree with what you said. That said, those who use UCEPROTECT above > level 1 to unconditionally block mails deserve to lose mails. > For me, it's "appreciate never seeing t

Re: [mailop] Is it something to worry about?

2021-01-20 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 13:29 +0100, Hetzner Blacklist via mailop wrote: > > New/current policy: http://www.uceprotect.net/en/index.php?m=3&s=5 > You failed to mention this bit from that link: "UCEPROTECT-Level 3 lists all IP's within an ASN excep

Re: [mailop] Is it something to worry about?

2021-01-20 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 14:10 +0100, Renaud Allard via mailop wrote: > > On 1/20/21 1:58 PM, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote: > > On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 13:29 +0100, Hetzner Blacklist via mailop wrote: > > > > &g

Re: [mailop] Is it something to worry about?

2021-01-20 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 08:27 -0800, Russell Clemings via mailop wrote: > I don't really understand why anybody would use UCEPROTECT3 anyway. > > The first sentence of their web page says: > > "This blacklist has been created for HARDLINERS. It can,

Re: [mailop] Is it something to worry about?

2021-01-21 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 13:08 +0100, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote: > On Wed 20/Jan/2021 14:25:10 +0100 Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote: > > On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 14:10 +0100, Renaud Allard via mailop wrote: > > > On 1/20/21 1:58

Re: [mailop] Is it something to worry about?

2021-01-21 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 13:44 +0100, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote: > On Thu 21/Jan/2021 13:26:43 +0100 Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote: > > On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 13:08 +0100, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote: > > > On Wed 20

Re: [mailop] Is it something to worry about?

2021-01-21 Thread Jim Popovitch via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 08:54 -0500, Chris via mailop wrote: > On 2021-01-21 07:26, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote: > > On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 13:08 +0100, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote: > > > So yes, perhaps it's not ext

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