MI SUM: MapInfo Pro Geometry Manager V1.0

2000-05-08 Thread Van Uitregt, John

Thanks to all for the info supplied.

Overall, it seems that it is an industrial strength package that has
been built from the ground up rather than an MB application, and it does
its job quite effectively.

I'll happily supply the emails (6) to anyone interested. 

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Regards ...
John van Uitregt,  GIS Analyst
Logan City Council, Queensland, Australia
Tel. 61-7-38265697 Fax 61-7-38080014
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Re: Anyone used MI 6.0 yet?

2000-05-08 Thread brian . forrester



Ladies  Gentlemen,

My company has a large installed base of users, both full installations and
distributed run-time versions.

We still use Mapinfo 4.1, although we have purchased a copy of each upgrade
for evaluation.

Each time, I have investigated whether it is worth our while upgrading the
whole company to the new version.  Are any of you surprised that we have
not done so?  There has been nothing in v4.5, v5 or now, it seems, v6 to
justify the expense.

Looking back at the WishList from a few years back, so few of these
questions have been properly addressed.  All text-objects are anchored
top-left, why can't I fix each text-object at a different location
(bottom,right for example)?; Lat/longs in d.m's" has yet to be fully
implemented (even Encarta WorldAtlas does this); why can't I take a
selection of text objects and itaicise them/rotate them/ in bulk?; why
can't I copy/move objects but retain horizontal/vertical alignment?; why
can't I seamlessly move from editing an object on one layer to an object on
another layer?  Curving text aling a polyline? Continuous line-styles (that
don't stop/start with each line vertex)  etc.etc. etc.  MBX's have answered
some specific questions, but the product itself seems stuck in a rut.

A simple analogy from Autocad days might help to illustrate this point.
Autodesk used to buy-up utilities produced by third-party vendors, fully
implementing the code, seamlessly, into the next upgrade.  I presume they
paid the third-party vendors  who could then move on to the next gap in
Autocad functionality.  With each upgrade, there was a real boost in
functionality;  the best of the third-party stuff, and Autodesk's own work;
a real commitment to working through the User Group wishlist.

If Mapinfo is ever to really challenge AV, or even keep clear of the
clutches of smaller, faster-moving companies, it will have to be more
responsive to it's user-base.  It has been interesting reading the views of
so many who use a number of mapping products.  How many of you would ditch
the others, concentrating on Mapinfo alone - if only Mapinfo v7 was a real
and significant improvement that would genuinely justify the change in
version number, produce better maps and be faster to use and easier to
learn.  But even if the improvement was less significant, how many of you
would still buy Mapinfo;  you wouldn't use it as much as you might, but
Mapinfo would still register a sale.

The best thing that's happenned to Mapinfo in this office since v4.1?
Adobe's PDF writer.  Connection to Mapinfo Corp. - None.

I can only agree that a new version number for v5 and v6 seems like
complete overkill.  I despair of any step-change from Mapinfo.

Regards,

Brian Forrester
Edinburgh
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CMYK -postscript with new MIprof6.0?

2000-05-08 Thread Horst Hornblende

Is there a possibility to print a colour-seperated CMYK postscript-file
with the new MapInfo 6.0 version? Where can I find these print-format-settings?
would be great to get a hint.
Horst

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Re: MI SUM - World Cities Database

2000-05-08 Thread Alan Pritchard

Warren has made some very valid points regarding world gazetteers, and I 
hope that he will not mind some further comments from the point of view of 
the Global Gazetteer. All comments should, of course, be prefixed by IMO.

 1) Strictly speaking, a gazetteer is simply a location look-up. It does 
 not guarantee that, when visualised on a map, it will inter-match. e.g. 
 Coastal places may be in the sea!

It should do though. If the underlying boundary file is accurate, and the 
place point is specified with sufficient accuracy, then the two should 
match. If the point is only specified to degrees  minutes, then clearly 
the margin of error (very approx. +/- .5 miles, but very dependent upon 
lat/long), may make the place appear to be in the sea.

In general, though, I suspect that the problem lies with the boundary 
file, especially where this is derived without any adjustment from DCW. 
Accurate point data is available for many places, and, subject to typos, I 
would tend to go by this.


 2) Many free gazetteers are not maintained but the world changes 
 politically every year.  A vendors history and commitment to 
 maintenance is important to ensure one does not buy a dead-end product. 
  Old Digital Chart of the World type gazetteers list Victoria instead 
 of Harare - a change that happen a very long time ago!

Agree 110%. We spend a great deal of time monitoring changes in the 
administrative structures of countries, and ensuring, as far as is 
possible, that these are reflected in the GG. Name changes, mergers etc 
are relatively easy to handle. The problem arises in coping with 
situations where a new province is carved out of parts of two existing 
ones. Where it is not possible to accurately reflect the new structure, 
then we tell potential customers.

 3) Few gazetteers have a grading system to allow differentiation 
 between "important" places and "less important". There is no unified 
 population model for the world and combing straight statistics from 
 national census agencies does not always gives an apples-to-apples 
 comparison

The concept of 'important' and 'less important' can be approached in a 
variety of ways, of which population is but one determinant. There are two 
very important things to remember: (a) importance is dependent upon the 
project, and (b) importance is a national characteristic.

The implication of (a) is that what is important to a company wanting 
travel/tourism related places, is not so important for a company wanting 
to carrying out address checking [in both cases assuming a subset of the 
4m places is required], or a an oil company wanting data geocoded. The 
implication is (b) is that pure ranked population should not be used to 
provide a list of the 'x most important places', since a place may be 
important in its national context (provincial capital), but quite small in 
population terms, so it would get omitted in a pure population basis.

To this end, therefore, we includes fields such as the administrative 
function of a place; the type of place - many countries officially 
categorise places (e.g. Stadt or Gemeinde in Germany), but also including 
whether it is a major postal centre, or a tourist resort, etc; whether the 
place is the site of a port, airport, or railway station. All these fields 
enable us to select an important subset for a customer.

This data can be combined to produce subsets, such as 'places over 50,000 
population with a port or airport, and which are administrative centres, 
or 'the largest place in each telephone area code'.

 4) In addition to place name and location, a good gazetteer will also 
 provide rich attribute information. Administrative area will help 
 ambiguous place name searches and will importance classifications. e.g. 
 Troy, USA will have many matches but Troy, New York, USA will only have 
 one. Coding systems like FIPS and ISO for data processing may also be 
 important.

Exactly why we include other fields such as telephone area code, official 
codes, height, area, CRESTA zone codes, LOCODES etc. Actually it is not 
necessarily true that 'Troy, NY, USA' will only have one match. It is true 
in this specific instance, but in NY, there are 2 Huguenots, 2 Kenwoods, 3 
Jerichos. In Germany there are several instances of places having the same 
 province, the same lat/long, the same postcode, but which are distinct 
places. I have not carried out a formal study, but my feeling is that name 
duplication within provinces is greater in non-English speaking countries. 
In these situations the other enrichment fields that we collect become 
important.

One other point that Warren did not specifically address (although I know 
he has some of this information) is that of alternative spellings of place 
and foreign language versions Amburgo/Hamburg etc. We include many 
thousands of alternative names, including the foreign names (especially 
English, german, Russian, Polish), internal language versions (especially 

MI True type fonts in Mapinfo

2000-05-08 Thread Nyon

Hi,

When I try to set my symbols, the list of fonts in the dialog box are limited compared 
what I have installed in my Window/Font directory. Is there a certain type of 
true-type fonts that Mapinfo only supports ?


YC Nyon


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MI datatype mismatch

2000-05-08 Thread Simon W Fox

Dear all

Following my request last week for information regarding selecting text
objects from a layout and deleting them I am following up having worked
through the responses. From the responses I got (thankyou everybody) it was
clear that I need to query the LayoutTab to select the items I wish to
delete.

Knowing this I searched through the archives and found some earlier
correspondence from Scott Barling dated 11/01/2000 (day/month/year), that
included a nice little bit of code which looked as if it will do the job for
me. I added this code into mine and made a couple of amendments where I make
selections, but on running it I get a "Datatype mismatch in expression"
runtime error.

Briefly, I have a table called testtable and in that table I have a field
called reference. The variable S_Ref is the text item in the reference
column.

I have copied only the bits which I see as relevant to my problem:

Dim S_Ref As String
Dim Text As String

S_Ref = test_table.Reference

Text = S_Ref

LayoutTab = WindowInfo(FrontWindow(), Win_info_table)

   Select * from LayoutTab where Str$(obj) = "text"
*  Select * from Selection where (ObjectInfo(obj, OBJ_INFO_TEXTSTRING)) =
Text 
   If SelectionInfo (SEL_INFO_NROWS) Then
   Delete from selection
   End If


Upon running, within my Mapinfo layout all the text items select but then
the text item which has string equivalent to the variable S_Ref does not
select, it is at this point that I get the error message regarding datatype
mismatch. (the line with the asterix)

There is probably a very simple reason for this but I can't see it.

If anyone can help please get in touch.

Thanks

Simon  


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RE: MI True type fonts in Mapinfo

2000-05-08 Thread Jacques Paris

If a true type font is installed in Windows, it should be available as a
text font, but not necessarily as a Symbol. I do not know what to do for MI
to accept it as a symbol.

But you can still use it by creating a text object of one character, typing
the character code you need and selecting the text style of the "symbol"
font.

Such solution has many advanyages over the "accepted" symbols. It is not
contrained in size at 48 pts. It can be angled. It remains proportionnate to
the scale of the mapper. The drawbacks I know of are that the objects are
not centered on a given position (position of text objects is by their
anchor point = top left corner of MBR) and rotation is around that
"excentric" point. Besides their size not being constrained, one must always
check when creating objects that their point size is under control.

I have used those features in an application (GRADARRO.mbx on our site) that
positions, sizes and orientates arrows on point locations according to 2
variables similar to slope direction and intensity. I would not have been
able to do so with "symbols". A ttf name FLECHE01 containing different
straight arrow types is also available for download.

But I would still wish to learn how to make MI recognize a TTF as a symbol
font.

Jacques Paris

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Sent: May 1, 2000 9:36 AM
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Subject: MI True type fonts in Mapinfo


Hi,

When I try to set my symbols, the list of fonts in the dialog box are
limited compared what I have installed in my Window/Font directory. Is there
a certain type of true-type fonts that Mapinfo only supports ?


YC Nyon


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MI need translator for Maptech bsb format files

2000-05-08 Thread Strong, Michael B

To any Mapinfo users that use Maptech NOAA nautical charts:
 I am currently running Mapinfo 5.5 .I have purchased a set of NOAA
electronic charts from Maptech, but cannot import the BSB format files as
they are in a proprietorial format. Is there a translator tool that can be
used with Mapinfo to translate these files to tif so that they can be read
by Mapinfo ? 

Michael B. Strong
Department of Fisheries and Oceans
Gulf of Maine Crustacean Fisheries Section
Biological Station
St Andrews N.B. EOG 2XO
ph: 506-529-5939
fax:506-529-5862
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: MI AND AV in the same office?

2000-05-08 Thread Steve Lackow

Margie, we linked to your public health GIS site from ours at
http://www.rpmconsulting.com/PublicHealth.html

As for the map server question, ArcIMS is the latest and greatest, but if
all the geodata are in MapInfo format and I was used to the MapInfo
programming environment I might stick with that.

As for ESRI out-doing MapInfo on marketing, I think ESRI simply understands
the needs of the educational user better and addresses them better.  There
are also other segments where ESRI excels (e.g. public health, government,
transportation).  But though my firm works predominantly with ESRI products,
I've always felt MapInfo had far superior marketing to business users,  and
that ArcView is still not as productive as MapInfo or Atlas GIS for business
use.  But this is changing.

To me, it's all good.  It would be nice if we had one GIS format already,
though -- or if at least the major products were all thoroughly
interoperable on format.  Atlas 4.0 is actually closest to this, as it can
import and export MIF, SHP, BNA and AGF.

-- Steve

- Original Message -
From: "Marjorie Roswell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Portolan Geomatics Inc" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: MI AND AV in the same office?


 On Wed, 3 May 2000, Portolan Geomatics Inc wrote:

  Hello listers, hope I won't offend the hardcore MI users here...anyone
  seen Ms. Roswell lately? :)


 Yikes. I am missed. Cool.

 Some things I've been thinking about lately, while not managing to
 correspond with mapinfo-l:

 - Whether to ask MapInfo for a copy of MapXtreme, or ESRI for a copy of
 ArcIMS, or MapOjectsIMS. I intend to create a non-profit web site of
 bicycle routes. I was already turned down by DeLorme. They have a
 speedy-gonzales Eartha web mapping product, but apparently they use such
 optimized data (like RouteIMS) that you can't import custom data.

 I want whichever solution is easier for the programmer to implement, and
 whichever is faster, in that order of priority, I guess, but both would be
 nice.

 Which is a better product?

 - I'm planning to use Flash with MAPublisher and Illustrator to implement
 some web mapping. I was very impressed by the Baltimore Sun's look at
 Handgun legislation. Click on the United States graphic on the right-hand
 lower side of http://www.sunspot.net/news/special/guns/

 I think this is beautifully implemented, and faster, and more responsive
 than ANY GIS-on-the-web solution I've ever seen before. I intend to create
 an animation of the spread of Lyme Disease.

 - A couple of months ago I created http://hello.to/healthgeo, a web site
 of links devoted to Health Geographics

 Well, that's what's up with me on the mapping, and maps-on-the-web front.
 Thanks for noticing my "absence."


 Regards,

 Margie "Still-a-MapInfo-User-after-all-these-years" Roswell


 P.S. My campus has a site license for ESRI products. I do feel a tidal
 wave push in that direction, especially because of effective marketing by
 ESRI. I mean, at the local GIS conference last week, I was carrying a bag
 with ESRI's name on it. MapInfo should, indeed, take a few tips from ESRI,
 on both user-interface, and marketing fronts.


 _
 Marjorie Roswell, Spatial Analyst
 UMBC Center for Health Program Development and Management
 1000 Hilltop Circle Fx: (410)455-6850
 Baltimore, MD 21250   E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Ph: (410)455-6802http://umbc.edu/~roswell/mipage.html
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MI Labelling defaults

2000-05-08 Thread Swayze . Natalie

I have a table with a series of columns, one with place name and one with
the map code for each area.
As of right now, MI automatically labels the table with code #, but I would
like it to be switched to name as the default.( both columns are Character
but only code was indexed originally).
I've tried indexing the names column, moving it ahead of the codes
column...same results. 

Can anyone offer a solution??

 application/ms-tnef


Re: MI need translator for Maptech bsb format files

2000-05-08 Thread Dan_Page

There is a program called WorldReg Plus that allows you to open BSB files in
MapInfo. The web page of the company is
http://members.aol.com/MapData/software.html






"Strong, Michael B" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/08/2000 08:26:17 AM
  
  
  
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 Subject: MI need translator for Maptech bsb format files 
  





To any Mapinfo users that use Maptech NOAA nautical charts:
 I am currently running Mapinfo 5.5 .I have purchased a set of NOAA
electronic charts from Maptech, but cannot import the BSB format files as
they are in a proprietorial format. Is there a translator tool that can be
used with Mapinfo to translate these files to tif so that they can be read
by Mapinfo ?

Michael B. Strong
Department of Fisheries and Oceans
Gulf of Maine Crustacean Fisheries Section
Biological Station
St Andrews N.B. EOG 2XO
ph: 506-529-5939
fax:506-529-5862
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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MI RE: Labelling Default

2000-05-08 Thread Swayze . Natalie

OK-thanks!!

-Original Message-
From: Francois Bergeron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 1:59 PM
To: Swayze, Natalie: WPG
Subject: Re: Labelling Default


Hi again Nathalie,

Yes, I understand..but this is the solution.  Dont click in the check box
option (Auto Labelling) and then use your labelling tool.  It will works!!

Let me know if you have any further questions!

Ciao!!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Francois,

 But I was looking for the names to be used as a default when the labelling
 tool is used ( i.e. not the Auto labeller within Layer control)...
 -Original Message-
 From: Francois Bergeron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 1:48 PM
 To: Swayze, Natalie: WPG
 Subject: Re: Labelling Default

 Hi Nathalie!

 You have to go in the Layer Controlselect the "Label" button and
 then select the column you want by default in the "Label with" Popup
 Control.  Click OK/OK and it will works!!

 Hope this help!!

 Best Regards,
 ___

 ||//  François Bergeron
 ||   //Conseiller en Géomatique
 ||  // [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 ||   \\   Le Groupe KOREM Inc.
 ||\\  http://www.korem.com

 Formation MapInfo:
 http://www.korem.com/formation.html

 MIG!!
 www.mig.ca

 680, Boul. Charest Est
 Québec  (Québec)   CANADA   G1K 3J4
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||   //Conseiller en Géomatique
||  // [EMAIL PROTECTED]
||  \\
||   \\   Le Groupe KOREM Inc.
||\\  http://www.korem.com

Formation MapInfo:
http://www.korem.com/formation.html

MIG!!
www.mig.ca

680, Boul. Charest Est
Québec  (Québec)   CANADA   G1K 3J4
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 application/ms-tnef


Re: MI need translator for Maptech bsb format files

2000-05-08 Thread Steve Iris

Use the WorldReg program.  I will allows you to load directly BSB format
+ it will save you the image registration process.

Contact:
web: http://members.aol.com/MapData
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Marine Press of Canada
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Canada
Tel:(514)866-8342
Fax:(514)866-9050
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MI What about topology?

2000-05-08 Thread Sven Köllen


Hello everybody,
though working with MapInfo for a while, I just recently subscribed
to the mailinglist - and I already have a question. I hope someone can
give me a hint!
Im am supposed to use Mapinfo for network planning and documentation
purposes (glassfiber-networks in telecoms), i.e. it is necessary to answer
questions like "which is the shortest route between switch a and b?" or
"which cables or fibers and switches lie between customer x and service
provider?" etc.
As far as I know MapInfo, this is not supported by the standard version,
because the building of topology is necessary for that (like ESRI's ArcInfo
provides it).
So what shall I do? How can I build topology in MapInfo (after
digitizing?), or how else can I answer the above example-questions?
I am looking forward to your answers! Sven Kllen (Germany)


Re: MI AND AV in the same office?

2000-05-08 Thread Dick Hoskins

In what way does ESRI respond to public health? I am at a loss - I have seen
their presentations, etc but not ONE deals with anything that has anything
to do with public health (surveillance, assessment, program evaluation) .
Perhaps I am wrong, show me the way.

Dick Hoskins
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GIS uses in public health summer course:
http://healthlinks.washington.edu/inpho/gis/course.html
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Lackow" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Marjorie Roswell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: MI AND AV in the same office?


 Margie, we linked to your public health GIS site from ours at
 http://www.rpmconsulting.com/PublicHealth.html

 As for the map server question, ArcIMS is the latest and greatest, but if
 all the geodata are in MapInfo format and I was used to the MapInfo
 programming environment I might stick with that.

 As for ESRI out-doing MapInfo on marketing, I think ESRI simply
understands
 the needs of the educational user better and addresses them better.  There
 are also other segments where ESRI excels (e.g. public health, government,
 transportation).  But though my firm works predominantly with ESRI
products,
 I've always felt MapInfo had far superior marketing to business users,
and
 that ArcView is still not as productive as MapInfo or Atlas GIS for
business
 use.  But this is changing.

 To me, it's all good.  It would be nice if we had one GIS format already,
 though -- or if at least the major products were all thoroughly
 interoperable on format.  Atlas 4.0 is actually closest to this, as it can
 import and export MIF, SHP, BNA and AGF.

 -- Steve

 - Original Message -
 From: "Marjorie Roswell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Portolan Geomatics Inc" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 1:06 PM
 Subject: Re: MI AND AV in the same office?


  On Wed, 3 May 2000, Portolan Geomatics Inc wrote:
 
   Hello listers, hope I won't offend the hardcore MI users here...anyone
   seen Ms. Roswell lately? :)
 
 
  Yikes. I am missed. Cool.
 
  Some things I've been thinking about lately, while not managing to
  correspond with mapinfo-l:
 
  - Whether to ask MapInfo for a copy of MapXtreme, or ESRI for a copy of
  ArcIMS, or MapOjectsIMS. I intend to create a non-profit web site of
  bicycle routes. I was already turned down by DeLorme. They have a
  speedy-gonzales Eartha web mapping product, but apparently they use such
  optimized data (like RouteIMS) that you can't import custom data.
 
  I want whichever solution is easier for the programmer to implement, and
  whichever is faster, in that order of priority, I guess, but both would
be
  nice.
 
  Which is a better product?
 
  - I'm planning to use Flash with MAPublisher and Illustrator to
implement
  some web mapping. I was very impressed by the Baltimore Sun's look at
  Handgun legislation. Click on the United States graphic on the
right-hand
  lower side of http://www.sunspot.net/news/special/guns/
 
  I think this is beautifully implemented, and faster, and more responsive
  than ANY GIS-on-the-web solution I've ever seen before. I intend to
create
  an animation of the spread of Lyme Disease.
 
  - A couple of months ago I created http://hello.to/healthgeo, a web site
  of links devoted to Health Geographics
 
  Well, that's what's up with me on the mapping, and maps-on-the-web
front.
  Thanks for noticing my "absence."
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Margie "Still-a-MapInfo-User-after-all-these-years" Roswell
 
 
  P.S. My campus has a site license for ESRI products. I do feel a tidal
  wave push in that direction, especially because of effective marketing
by
  ESRI. I mean, at the local GIS conference last week, I was carrying a
bag
  with ESRI's name on it. MapInfo should, indeed, take a few tips from
ESRI,
  on both user-interface, and marketing fronts.
 
 
  _
  Marjorie Roswell, Spatial Analyst
  UMBC Center for Health Program Development and Management
  1000 Hilltop Circle Fx: (410)455-6850
  Baltimore, MD 21250   E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: MI What about topology?

2000-05-08 Thread Mats Elfström

Sven Köllen wrote:
 
 Hello everybody,
 though working with MapInfo for a while, I just recently subscribed to
 the mailinglist - and I already have a question. I hope someone can
 give me a hint!
 
 Im am supposed to use Mapinfo for network planning and documentation
 purposes (glassfiber-networks in telecoms), i.e. it is necessary to
 answer questions like "which is the shortest route between switch a
 and b?" or "which cables or fibers and switches lie between customer x
 and service provider?" etc.
 As far as I know MapInfo, this is not supported by the standard
 version, because the building of topology is necessary for that (like
 ESRI's ArcInfo provides it).
 
 So what shall I do? How can I build topology in MapInfo (after
 digitizing?), or how else can I answer the above example-questions?

Hi Sven!
Surf to www.ospinsight.com and check out their software OSP Insight.
That is all you need.

Mats.E
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MI How do you enter a question???

2000-05-08 Thread Dan Wiens

Bill:

I visited this site -- but can't find any button that allows you to enter a
question.   Am I missing something???

Thanks,
Dan

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MI Running MapMarker from MapBasic

2000-05-08 Thread Agen Greg SMSgt AFRC/RSOO

Someone help !!!

Step 1 - I currently run a MapBasic script that loads a file into a MapInfo
table.

Step 2 - Then I run MapMarker and Geocode that table to the street level...
with fallback to zip code.

Step 3 - Lastly... I run a second MapBasic script to process that table
against various maps to create a output file for our use.

What I want to do is have ONE MapBasic script to run.  That way it ... loads
the file... geocodes... and creates the output file all in one.  This way
other NON MapInfo/MapMarker people in my office just have to click on the
MapBasic script and wait for the output file to be created.

I have heard about API calls etc... but, I'm not a programming GURU.  So,
someone out there must have a MapBasic script already written that I can
just paste into my current process (with some name and directory
modifications on my part), that will complete the task I'm looking for.

Maybe not...  But I figure someone has thought of this before :-)  ???

Awaiting the wealth of knowledge out there think of it as some small way
to help serve your country since this is a process to help the Air Force
Recruiting distribute leads to recruiters in a more timely manner.

I have the two other MapBasic scripts available if anyone needs them to help
me out.

Gregory S. Agen
GREGORY S. AGEN, SMSgt, USAF
NCOIC, Recruiting Production Analysis
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Re: Anyone used MI 6.0 yet?

2000-05-08 Thread Christopher DuBuc

(Please delete this long-winded diatribe if you are not into spirited
debate)

My two dollars

As an old-time MapInfo Pro desktop application user, I understand some of
the frustration with MapInfo spending more and more energy on their MapX
line, seemingly to the detriment MI Pro users.  But I must admit I've heard
many of these same complaints before-  when MapInfo decided to move
development efforts away from their bread and butter DOS product and devote
more resources to developing on "that silly Windows platform".  In order for
MapInfo to thrive, it must be ahead of the curve when it comes to new
technologies and platforms.  The reason MapInfo is as strong as it is today
is because 10 years ago they "bet the farm" on the idea that computing would
be ruled by graphical user interfaces.  Their main competitor at the time
(ArcView didn't come out until a few years later) was Strategic Mapping
(Atlas GIS), who didn't embrace the new GUI paradigm until it was too
late...and we all know what happened to them.  In addition, it could be
argued that the only reason MapInfo made a dent in ESRI's market share at
all was that MI was the only GUI mapping application in existence for
several years.  The Internet and rapidly expanding broadband access
represent another major paradigm shift that is changing the way people use
computers, similar to how Windows (and of course the Mac) opened up the
power of computing to a whole new class of non-technical users 10 years ago.
In order for any software to be successful over the long term, it must be in
the business of predicting how people will interact with computers several
years into the future.  It seems the MapX product line represents MapInfo's
response to what it believes is the next generation of information
technology.

While obviously the move towards internet-based mapping now and the move to
the Windows platform 10 years ago are not strictly analogous, I believe the
concepts still apply.  MapInfo must devote much of it's time into making
sure it is in position for the next wave of "distributed" applications.
This means more developers working on MapX/MapXtreme type technology,
leaving less developers for the maturing MapInfo Professional technology.
(And in a micro sense, within MapInfo Pro itself more attention will be
given to newer technologies, such as 3D mapping, internet connectivity,
etc., and less towards tweaking the interface)  Now I don't think anyone
believes MapInfo Pro is being abandoned anytime in the near future,  but if
you look ahead 5 years from now most experts envision that many if not most
computer applications will be internet/service based.  Imagine if you will a
MapInfo Pro level "service" that you sign up for and use over the Internet
through your browser, without installing or downloading anything on to your
local hard drive except your own data.

In regards to pricing of MI Pro and its upgrades, that is a business
decision that can be argued over until every one is blue in the face.  The
more money MapInfo brings in, the more developers and support people (i.e.
MapWorld magazine editors) can be hired, which is better for all of
MapInfo's product line.  However the higher the prices, the more certain
users will be "priced out" of buying MI products and upgrades; Which leaves
a market niche open for lower priced alternatives (such as Manifold,
Maptitude, etc.) to enter the picture.  Each individual user has to decide
for his/herself whether the extra money needed to purchase a MapInfo product
or upgrade is worth it given the alternatives.  But one must keep in mind
that just as successful software companies must keep an eye toward the
future, we users must be sure that the technology we invest in today will
still be relevant down the road. (Anyone thinking of buying a copy of Atlas
GIS? It only costs $295...)  In theory it is possible that a company like
Caliper is so efficient that it can make money building and maintaining a
MapInfo Pro quality desktop product for a sub $500 price tag while still
getting itself ready for the next generation of information technology.  If
it can achieve this feat consistently and over the long term then the
marketplace will reward it, and we might all be chatting on Maptitude-L in
five years.  However until this business model is proven, I believe the bulk
of desktop mapping users will "dance with the one who brung 'em."

Feel free to argue,

Chris

Chris DuBuc
Sage Software
VP Florida Operations
Authorized MapInfo Reseller
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From: Dick Hoskins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bill Thoen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone used MI 6.0 yet?


 I might augment your predictions a little: I suspect that the average MI
 user is getting tired of cosmetic upgrades that cost  $500. Much less,
many
 of us are not real nuts about MapExtreme, the big price tag and the
profound
 lack of ease in 

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2000-05-08 Thread ANTIGEN_TEXADA
Title: Antigen found =*.* file





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MI shortest line

2000-05-08 Thread Ganeshag




Dear Mapper,

We are GIS Consultant located in Bali-Indonesia, 
we have a problem and want to ask you for the answer. Our problem as follows 
:We have a Places of interest layer and a street 
layer, then we want to make a program with MapBasic to check how many ways to 
get some place and which is the sorthest way to that place.

For example :We have two places call A and B 
in Places of interest layer, and there are some street we can choose 
to get place B from A. What should we do to make an application that able to 
solve the problem.

Thank you so much for your 
attention.

Best Regards,

AlitPT Ganeshaglobal SaranaPh: (062) 
(0361) 723872Fx: (062) (0361) 723871e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]et.id


Re: MI Christopher DuBuc's Anyone used MI 6.0 yet? message

2000-05-08 Thread Ian Allan

Chris,

Thanks for that. You have consoliated many ideas that have been spinning around
my head as I move my company towards its next business model. In other words, my
current mapbasic programming (particularly the ideas behind it) will most likely
need to be ported to the internet somewhere down the track.

However, that said, MapInfo needs to be aware that much of its present desktop
mapping client base are angry both at being taken as "stupid" and at being
thought of as "milking cows". MapInfo corp needs to be aware that it exists for
its clients and not the other way around. Other than spatial and aspatial
compatibility with other systems, MapInfo has added very little
useful/meaningful functionality since its initial windows release.

Historically I have been a great proponent of Mapinfo. I used it as a postgrad,
integrated it into university teaching  now use it centrally in my business.
However, MapInfo's failure to provide "meaningful" upgrades has dented my
confidence in the software and has forced me to re-evaluate my relationship with
it. I for one am very much looking forward to evaluating Manifold V 5.0 when it
is released. From what I read, this is a product that is looking towards the
next generation of GIS use, rather than, as you suggest MapInfo is doing, simply
making existing MapInfo functionality available on the internet ie. more of the
same but using a different provider model.

Regards,

Ian Allan

Christopher DuBuc wrote:

 (Please delete this long-winded diatribe if you are not into spirited
 debate)

 My two dollars

 As an old-time MapInfo Pro desktop application user, I understand some of
 the frustration with MapInfo spending more and more energy on their MapX
 line, seemingly to the detriment MI Pro users.  But I must admit I've heard
 many of these same complaints before-  when MapInfo decided to move
 development efforts away from their bread and butter DOS product and devote
 more resources to developing on "that silly Windows platform".  In order for
 MapInfo to thrive, it must be ahead of the curve when it comes to new
 technologies and platforms.  The reason MapInfo is as strong as it is today
 is because 10 years ago they "bet the farm" on the idea that computing would
 be ruled by graphical user interfaces.  Their main competitor at the time
 (ArcView didn't come out until a few years later) was Strategic Mapping
 (Atlas GIS), who didn't embrace the new GUI paradigm until it was too
 late...and we all know what happened to them.  In addition, it could be
 argued that the only reason MapInfo made a dent in ESRI's market share at
 all was that MI was the only GUI mapping application in existence for
 several years.  The Internet and rapidly expanding broadband access
 represent another major paradigm shift that is changing the way people use
 computers, similar to how Windows (and of course the Mac) opened up the
 power of computing to a whole new class of non-technical users 10 years ago.
 In order for any software to be successful over the long term, it must be in
 the business of predicting how people will interact with computers several
 years into the future.  It seems the MapX product line represents MapInfo's
 response to what it believes is the next generation of information
 technology.

 While obviously the move towards internet-based mapping now and the move to
 the Windows platform 10 years ago are not strictly analogous, I believe the
 concepts still apply.  MapInfo must devote much of it's time into making
 sure it is in position for the next wave of "distributed" applications.
 This means more developers working on MapX/MapXtreme type technology,
 leaving less developers for the maturing MapInfo Professional technology.
 (And in a micro sense, within MapInfo Pro itself more attention will be
 given to newer technologies, such as 3D mapping, internet connectivity,
 etc., and less towards tweaking the interface)  Now I don't think anyone
 believes MapInfo Pro is being abandoned anytime in the near future,  but if
 you look ahead 5 years from now most experts envision that many if not most
 computer applications will be internet/service based.  Imagine if you will a
 MapInfo Pro level "service" that you sign up for and use over the Internet
 through your browser, without installing or downloading anything on to your
 local hard drive except your own data.

 In regards to pricing of MI Pro and its upgrades, that is a business
 decision that can be argued over until every one is blue in the face.  The
 more money MapInfo brings in, the more developers and support people (i.e.
 MapWorld magazine editors) can be hired, which is better for all of
 MapInfo's product line.  However the higher the prices, the more certain
 users will be "priced out" of buying MI products and upgrades; Which leaves
 a market niche open for lower priced alternatives (such as Manifold,
 Maptitude, etc.) to enter the picture.  Each individual user has to decide
 for his/herself