MI Educational use of MapInfo Products
For those of you who know the MidNight Mapper I hope you will not overly discount my comments in regards to educational use and licensing of MapInfo technologies. When MapInfo gets berated because its "not conforming to an ESRI practice" well shame on us. I hope we are better than they. ESRI will do just about anything to cause rifts in the competition. They are the king of LOSS LEAD GIS as Jack owns the outfit. He doesn't need to answer to anyone - except these days Bill! From day one AkeView 1.0 was a free give away. Why? Well companies like MapInfo were eating its lunch on the desktop. What evolved has been AkeView 2.0 and now as AkeView 3.x with all of its big $$$ plug-ins... And now again ESRI attacks the entry level user with ArcExploiter 1.0 and 2.0. Great! While we MapInfo'ers look over at the seemingly greener grasses of "Viewer" and "Exploiter" understand that ESRI's/Jack's real interest is in their next generation of ArcInfo and its ArcObjects. And I dare anyone to suggest to this list that SHP is a better format than MID/MID. And what is really cruel to their Avenue developers is the ArcView future is doomed by a Redland's decree. This generation of ESRI technology is based on ArcInfo 8.0 and all of its associated COM objects. Not on Viewer or Avenue. It is to be programmed via Visual Basic. Avenue is DOA; it has no future in the ESRI vision. So jump ship you fools and swim hard. Priced a ArcInfo or ArcSDE deal lately? And you thought MapInfo Professional 6.0 was questionable? That said, Now for educational use of MapInfo.. Over the years with Farmers Software Association (FSA) has locked horns with MapInfo attitudes towards education. And we have been successful. Why? Because we have not made one penny on these educational licenses. Little FSA has I'll guess over 150 Professional licenses in more than 40 Land Grant Institutions or the "State Universities" like Cornell, Rutgers, Iowa State, Purdue, U of Illinois, and the like. We have also helped to set up a number of "student" labs in both universities and community colleges - I'll guess there are 200+ of these seats out there in small labs of 10 to 30 PCs. Mostly to support site specific farming systems in the Colleges of Agriculture. The MapInfo scholastic deal requires that the school be willing to pay only 20 percent of list for the license. On $1495 that makes a seat worth $299 - not "free" but a good deal. The "Labs" cost a bit more but can be put together. How do you do it? First you scream and holler, hold your breath and kick the MapInfo marketers in the shins. Not just once but numerous times over the years. You'll have to promise you'll take care of the academics on your own dime. Your serious right? Then you'll need a letter from the individual or department on letterhead asking for the Educational Discount with a brief disclosure of how its going to be used. Along side this cover letter must be a Department PO for the requested order. Data is not discounted. Updates? The policy has been no educational discount on "updates" of any sort. For the educational MapInfo user and their 20 percent of list schedule, it has always been cheaper for the school or researcher to just buy a new copy. And they have! Still problems? If you have any legit school or researcher wanting MapInfo products Farmers Software Association or Red Hen will help. You deliver the contact, we confirm the reality, ask for the needed cover letter and PO and they get the license on a 30-day net term. No ifs, NO buts! We add needed shipping and don't make a nickel. And we will take calls from these users - happily. We do not export. ESRI has had connection to the schools because they were the only horse in town when UNIX dominated the schools' networks. They had a school-wide license deal that worked well if the school could host more than 200 seats. If the school didn't have ESRI's institutional license it was buy at LIST... Yes, MapInfo has a fair deal for academic researchers and schools. If you are serious they will help you take care of these future users. Could they do more? Sure. FWIW MidNight Mapper aka Neil 8/19/00 -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: MI Is MapInfo going to die?
Hi All, Bill Thoen wrote; ESRI's going to be busy rethinking again now that Microsoft is retiring all the old COM and DCOM stuff in favor of this new (and incompatible) thing called "C-sharp." I checked www.microsoft.com and couldn't find anything related with "C-sharp". is this a rumour, or are there any links that we can find more information. for the rest of the preceeding comments; MapInfo is on her course.. on the right directions I believe... especially with Java and Oracle integration is very promising. Therefore; MapInfo is not going to die, may be evolve, or may be bought?? Best Regards, Alim. -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MI Educational use of MapInfo Products
from Neil Havermale: Then you'll need a letter from the individual or department on letterhead asking for the Educational Discount with a brief disclosure of how its going to be used. Along side this cover letter must be a Department PO for the requested order. Data is not discounted. Updates? The policy has been no educational discount on "updates" of any sort. For the educational MapInfo user and their 20 percent of list schedule, it has always been cheaper for the school or researcher to just buy a new copy. And they have! ... On our side of the border, the academic distribution was handled until recently (I have not been active this past year on the university front) by SPSS. It was exclusively a yearly site licence based on 15 seat blocks. It included maintenance as long as you kept your subscription alive. I am wandering how it is now and how effective is the link MI-SPSS. May be MI relies too much on SPSS for promotion in academia? Jacques PARIS e-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] For MapInfo support, see the Paris PC Consult enr. site at http://www.total.net/~rparis/gisproducts.htm -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MI MB: Essential Tool for Coordinate System, Lost Info and MSG window etc
Hello everybody, I've bored from opening Mapbasic window and writing "set map coordsys window frontwindow()" and Loosing Info/Mesage Window i write a utility and want to share with you, Add this utilility to your startup.wor under Mapinfo installation directory as Run application "c:\program files\mapinfo\professional\tools\mytools.mbx" it adds 4 sub menu under "Options" menu of MI Pro anyone who has not got MapBasic,I can send the MBX, Also i'm wating for contribution for other essential functions... Best Regards... Ahmet DABANLI Here is the code copy/paste and Compile the code it is actully as simpleas MI programmers cannot give time to add to the menu or include in MI Pro ... include "mapbasic.def" declare sub main declare sub ShowInfoWin declare sub SetCoordSys declare sub ShowMBWin declare sub ShowMsgWin sub main Alter menu id 5 add "(-" Alter menu id 5 add "Set Coordinate System" calling SetCoordSys Alter menu id 5 add "Find Info Window" calling ShowInfoWin Alter menu id 5 add "Find Message Window" calling ShowMsgWin Alter menu id 5 add "Find Mapbasic Window" calling ShowMBWin End sub sub ShowInfoWin set window 1008 position (1,1) show End sub sub SetCoordSys if numwindows() then if windowinfo(frontwindow(),3) = WIN_MAPPER then set map coordsys window frontwindow() end if end if End sub sub ShowMBWin set window 1002 position (1,3) show End sub sub ShowMsgWin set window 1003 position (3,2) show End sub
Re: Fw: MI Is MapInfo going to die?
Sorry, I should have said "C#". C sharp is (and I'm still a little fuzzy on the details) the language that will be used under their Microsoft .NET initiative just announced late last June. See http://www.microsoft.com/net/ for more details. It's really the Microsoft .NET that is the big deal. - Bill Thoen GISnet, 1401 Walnut St., Suite C, Boulder, CO 80302 tel: 303-786-9961, fax: 303-443-4856 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ctmap.com/gisnet Alim Kucukpehlivan wrote: Hi All, Bill Thoen wrote; ESRI's going to be busy rethinking again now that Microsoft is retiring all the old COM and DCOM stuff in favor of this new (and incompatible) thing called "C-sharp." I checked www.microsoft.com and couldn't find anything related with "C-sharp". is this a rumour, or are there any links that we can find more information. for the rest of the preceeding comments; MapInfo is on her course.. on the right directions I believe... especially with Java and Oracle integration is very promising. Therefore; MapInfo is not going to die, may be evolve, or may be bought?? Best Regards, Alim. -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More URLs on Microsoft .NET (was MI Is MapInfo going to die?)
Alim Kucukpehlivan wrote: I checked www.microsoft.com and couldn't find anything related with "C-sharp". is this a rumour, or are there any links that we can find more information. Here's more about how .NET will affect COM and DCOM from PC World: http://pcworld.idg.com.au/pcw.nsf/news/8A190B09D61C06D6CA25691100261C50!OpenDocument For more perspective besides Microsoft, see http://www.google.com and search for "Microsoft .NET" (note the space before the dot.) - Bill Thoen GISnet, 1401 Walnut St., Suite C, Boulder, CO 80302 tel: 303-786-9961, fax: 303-443-4856 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ctmap.com/gisnet -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MI 6.0 A plea to lock down the tool bars
Short of solving the "lock" problem, here is a way to "redocked" toolpads. fix_pads.mbx is a "ButtonPad Master". It registers their positions whenever you want (it does it automatically when it starts with a clean slate) in an INI file. It will restore them if they are displaced with a simple click on an icon. In the present state of MI, there is nothing better to expect. Compiled for version 4.0. And it is free. And has a multi lingual capability. If interested, just e-mail me direct, it may take some time before I can put it on our site. Jacques PARIS e-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] For MapInfo support, see the Paris PC Consult enr. site at http://www.total.net/~rparis/gisproducts.htm -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
