Re: [mapserver-users] Point lables and tiles
Hi! OK, thanks! I guess that MapScript is the way to go then. Steve Lime wrote: Not within MapServer proper. The various tiling services use this metatile approach so it does work. You'd need an intermediary script to do the clipping for you. Steve On 5/28/2009 at 8:36 AM, in message 1243517779820-2987684.p...@n2.nabble.com, paalkr pal.kristen...@statkart.no wrote: Hi! OK, are there any methods that could be used to let MapServer produce a bigger image and then chop off excess area before sending the image to the client? I think that this would be the easiest and most flexible solution. Regards, Pål Kristensen Thomas Bonfort-2 wrote: it doesn't put any labels in the 10 outermost pixels surrounding the generated image (as they are chopped off by tilecache's metabuffer) thomas -- www.camptocamp.com +33 4 79 26 57 97 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 16:45, paalkr pal.kristen...@statkart.no wrote: Hi! Thanks for the hint! The problem is that I'm using GeoWebCache and not tilecache :) Is the METADATA labelcache_map_edge_buffer -10 END a MapServer keyword? What does it do exactly? Any other possible solutions? Regards, Pål Kristensen Thomas Bonfort-2 wrote: http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/mapserver-users/2009-March/060214.html regards, thomas -- www.camptocamp.com +33 4 79 26 57 97 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 15:00, paalkr pal.kristen...@statkart.no wrote: Hi! When creating tiles for my tilecache I have some issues regarding point labels. Using the PROCESSING label_no_clip=true works for line and polygon labels, but points has not area/size and will therefor newer be present in two neighbouring tiles. The result are clipped labels because only one tile will ever know about the presence of a point. If then the label should have been rendered into the next tile, it will be clipped. Metatiles (requesting more than one tile at a time and splitting it up on the tile server) helps, but only a little, as the same problem will occur between metatiles. A solution would be that MapServer rendered each tile (map) some percentage larger than requested, and then chops of the excess area before delivering the final map. A setting at the MAP level of the mapfile controlling this grow mechanism would be great, defining the percentage the map shall be extended before rendering. Second, is there any other way to solve the issue? Especially if there are already features in MapServer that can be used. Regards, Pål Kristensen - Regards, Pål Kristensen -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Point-lables-and-tiles-tp2969528p2969528.html Sent from the Mapserver - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users - Regards, Pål Kristensen -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Point-labels-and-tiles-tp2969528p2969950.html Sent from the Mapserver - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users - Regards, Pål Kristensen -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Point-labels-and-tiles-tp2969528p2987684.html Sent from the Mapserver - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users - Regards, Pål Kristensen -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Point-labels-and-tiles-tp2969528p2992303.html Sent from the Mapserver - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Finding the centroid given the feature
I am using mapserver 5.0 with google maps and the data source is the US Census tracts as shape files and dbf files. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Steve Lime steve.l...@dnr.state.mn.us wrote: What version are you using? What data source? Steve On 5/28/2009 at 10:01 AM, in message 6db14d250905280801q3660a6a7ycbcd5f5a238c5...@mail.gmail.com, Varun saraf vsaraf@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I know mapserver uses a point-in-polygon method to find a feature given a set of co-ordinates, but can it do the same thing reversed? For example. Each polygon I draw has a number associated with it which is in a dbf file with the same name as the shp file that mapserver uses to draw the polygons. My current map file allows me to fetch that unique number whenever I pass the co-ordinates of any point inside that polygon (mapserver uses the point-in-polygon method to fetch me the polygonID). The query I use is http://127.0.0.1:8123/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=C:/ms4w/apps/workshop-5.0/testMa p.mapmode=querymapxy=-77.098617 38.87795 where mapxy keeps changing based on the user's click. The html template I send just has the variable name [polygonID] which helps me get the polygon ID of the point I specify in the mapxy variable. Now, is there a way in which I can send this polygonID to mapserver and get hold of any point (perhaps the centroid) inside of this polygon? Can someone point me in the right direction here? Thanks a lot. -Varun ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
[mapserver-users] Re: Upgrading 5.2 - 5.4 generating CGI error on IIS(5.1 and 6.0) ... Possible BUG?
Just some more information about the problem... The error was generated by IIS (5.1 and 6.0) ... Looking the Logfile, It is a 502 error : *502* - Web server received an invalid response while acting as a gateway or proxy. *502.1* - CGI application timeout. *502.2* - Error in CGI application. It only happens with Mapserver 5.4 ... With 5.2 version, thats 100% working... Paul On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Paul james paulj...@gmail.com wrote: I got that error when try to enter : http://localhost/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=C:/map.map CGI ErrorThe specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a complete set of HTTP headers. The headers it did return are: My Map: MAP EXTENT -79.7892 -34.2426 -24.9958 6.11775 FONTSET Fonts\Fonts.txt IMAGECOLOR 230 254 254 IMAGETYPE png SIZE 800 600 STATUS ON UNITS dd NAME Test OUTPUTFORMAT NAME png MIMETYPE image/png DRIVER GD/PNG EXTENSION png IMAGEMODE PC256 TRANSPARENT FALSE END PROJECTION 'proj=longlat' 'ellps=WGS84' 'datum=WGS84' 'no_defs' END WEB IMAGEPATH 'C:\map\temp' IMAGEURL '/tmp/' QUERYFORMAT text/html LEGENDFORMAT text/html BROWSEFORMAT text/html END QUERYMAP COLOR 255 0 0 SIZE -1 -1 STATUS ON STYLE hilite END REFERENCE EXTENT -79.7892 -34.2426 -24.9958 6.11775 STATUS on SIZE 221 150 MINBOXSIZE 5 MAXBOXSIZE 150 COLOR -1 -1 -1 OUTLINECOLOR 255 0 0 MARKERSIZE 8 END LAYER NAME Test GROUP Tests TYPE POLYGON STATUS default CONNECTIONTYPE POSTGIS CONNECTION user=xpassword=xdbname=x host=x port=5432 DATA the_geom from viwgeo_x USING UNIQUE oid USING SRID=-1 CLASS COLOR 255 0 255 END END END ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Re: Upgrading 5.2 - 5.4 generating CGI error on IIS(5.1 and 6.0) ... Possible BUG?
Paul james wrote: Just some more information about the problem... The error was generated by IIS (5.1 and 6.0) ... Looking the Logfile, It is a 502 error : *502* - Web server received an invalid response while acting as a gateway or proxy. *502.1* - CGI application timeout. *502.2* - Error in CGI application. It only happens with Mapserver 5.4 ... With 5.2 version, thats 100% working... Where did you get your binaries? Are you using MS4W? This may be a sign of a problem with your build or bug in MapServer, but we'd need a testcase to reproduce it in order to help. I tried just loading your mapfile and get the following error: loadReferenceMap(): General error message. No image defined for the reference map. I don't know if that's an indication of the problem, but anyway, if the 502 error persists you could try to package a small testcase (mapfile + data + test url) that can be used to reproduce the issue and file a ticket. Daniel -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
[mapserver-users] Really general question about Mapfiles and GetMap requests
In a GetMap request what are the arguments 'height' and 'width' measured in? Pixels? Also what does changing RESOLUTION and SIZE in a mapfile actually do? MAP ... RESOLUTION 300 SIZE 1667 1667 ... END Thanks! ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Re: Upgrading 5.2 - 5.4 generating CGI error on IIS(5.1 and 6.0) ... Possible BUG?
Hi Daniel... I got the binaries from Tamas build : http://vbkto.dyndns.org:1280/sdk/Default.aspx And from MS4W 3.0 beta2... Same result with both... That error you got is my fault... I took off the : IMAGE ..\Map.png from REFERENCE definition when copy the code to email... My application works fine with 5.2 binary in iis 5.1 and 6.0 Just replacing with 5.4 binary I got that 502 error... Paul On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Daniel Morissette dmorisse...@mapgears.com wrote: Paul james wrote: Just some more information about the problem... The error was generated by IIS (5.1 and 6.0) ... Looking the Logfile, It is a 502 error : *502* - Web server received an invalid response while acting as a gateway or proxy. *502.1* - CGI application timeout. *502.2* - Error in CGI application. It only happens with Mapserver 5.4 ... With 5.2 version, thats 100% working... Where did you get your binaries? Are you using MS4W? This may be a sign of a problem with your build or bug in MapServer, but we'd need a testcase to reproduce it in order to help. I tried just loading your mapfile and get the following error: loadReferenceMap(): General error message. No image defined for the reference map. I don't know if that's an indication of the problem, but anyway, if the 502 error persists you could try to package a small testcase (mapfile + data + test url) that can be used to reproduce the issue and file a ticket. Daniel -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
RE: [mapserver-users] Really general question about Mapfiles and GetMaprequests
Robert, For GetMap, height and width are measured in pixels. I would like to just point you to http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/wms , but nothing is particularly easy to glean from the OGC... Plus, I will have to put in a request to my Attorney General staff before I can click through the giant legal agreement required to view the WMS spec. Seriously, what the #$%! For the map file info, look here: http://mapserver.org/mapfile/map.html From that page: SIZE [x][y] Size in pixels of the output image (i.e. the map). RESOLUTION [int] Sets the pixels per inch for output, only affects scale computations and nothing else, default is 72. I don't believe that SIZE comes into play when you are requesting a layer as WMS because you are required to specify height and width in your getMap request. -Original Message- From: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Robert Hicks Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:36 AM To: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [mapserver-users] Really general question about Mapfiles and GetMaprequests In a GetMap request what are the arguments 'height' and 'width' measured in? Pixels? Also what does changing RESOLUTION and SIZE in a mapfile actually do? MAP ... RESOLUTION 300 SIZE 1667 1667 ... END Thanks! ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Really general question about Mapfiles and GetMap requests
Hi, Robert Hicks wrote: In a GetMap request what are the arguments 'height' and 'width' measured in? Pixels? Yes, it's in pixels. Also what does changing RESOLUTION and SIZE in a mapfile actually do? http://mapserver.org/mapfile/map.html See RESOLUTION and SIZE If you use the mapserver cgi to draw your map (mode=map ), then the map draw will have the SIZE defined in your mapfile. See : http://mapserver.org/cgi/controls.html to know more about mapserver cgi. MAP ... RESOLUTION 300 SIZE 1667 1667 ... END Thanks! Regards, Alexandre ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users -- Alexandre Dubé Mapgears www.mapgears.com ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Re: Upgrading 5.2 - 5.4 generating CGI error on IIS(5.1 and 6.0) ... Possible BUG?
Paul james wrote: Hi Daniel... I got the binaries from Tamas build : http://vbkto.dyndns.org:1280/sdk/Default.aspx And from MS4W 3.0 beta2... Same result with both... That error you got is my fault... I took off the : IMAGE ..\Map.png from REFERENCE definition when copy the code to email... My application works fine with 5.2 binary in iis 5.1 and 6.0 Just replacing with 5.4 binary I got that 502 error... Hopefully you always make sure you update all DLLs as well when you replace with 5.4 binary? Even if the DLLs have the same names, if they come from different build environments or versions they may not be compatible and could cause the kind of crashes that you are experiencing. Daniel -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Re: Upgrading 5.2 - 5.4 generating CGI error on IIS(5.1 and 6.0) ... Possible BUG?
Yes Daniel... I deleted all previous files and put only 5.4 files... My mapscript application is working fine on 5.4... But the CGI dont... Tested on Windows XP (IIS 5.1) and Windows 2003(IIS 6.0)... Paul On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Daniel Morissette dmorisse...@mapgears.com wrote: Paul james wrote: Hi Daniel... I got the binaries from Tamas build : http://vbkto.dyndns.org:1280/sdk/Default.aspx And from MS4W 3.0 beta2... Same result with both... That error you got is my fault... I took off the : IMAGE ..\Map.png from REFERENCE definition when copy the code to email... My application works fine with 5.2 binary in iis 5.1 and 6.0 Just replacing with 5.4 binary I got that 502 error... Hopefully you always make sure you update all DLLs as well when you replace with 5.4 binary? Even if the DLLs have the same names, if they come from different build environments or versions they may not be compatible and could cause the kind of crashes that you are experiencing. Daniel -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
[mapserver-users] Place names...?
Hi all Apologies in advance if this turns out to be a stupid question, but I can't find a way to make Map Server v5.0 display place names. I have created a shape file with points for towns and cities, each of which has a label. If I check this layer with Quantum GIS (which I used to create the points) I can display both the points and the labels showing town and city names. However when I define this layer in the mapfile with type 'point' MapServer gives me a display of the points but not the labels. If I define it as type 'annotation' I don't see either points or labels. I feel sure I am missing something obvious but after quite a few hours I am stuck. Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong? Chris Green ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
RE: [mapserver-users] Place names...?
Hi Chris, In order to help us help you, give us an overview of you code ... It should work fine with POINT. Here is a working example : LAYER NAME pd_p_bldg STATUSON DUMP TRUE PROJECTION . . . END METADATA . . . END EXTENT300 0 1000 500 DATA pd_p/subset_pd_p TYPE POINT LABELITEM bldg_label CLASS STYLE SYMBOLsingle_building END LABEL TYPE TRUETYPE FONT times-bold SIZE 11 POSITION AUTO COLOR 227 119 0 OUTLINECOLOR 250 250 250 PARTIALS FALSE END END END James De : mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] De la part de Chris Green Envoyé : 29 mai 2009 13:42 À : mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org Objet : [mapserver-users] Place names...? Hi all Apologies in advance if this turns out to be a stupid question, but I can't find a way to make Map Server v5.0 display place names. I have created a shape file with points for towns and cities, each of which has a label. If I check this layer with Quantum GIS (which I used to create the points) I can display both the points and the labels showing town and city names. However when I define this layer in the mapfile with type 'point' MapServer gives me a display of the points but not the labels. If I define it as type 'annotation' I don't see either points or labels. I feel sure I am missing something obvious but after quite a few hours I am stuck. Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong? Chris Green ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Re: Upgrading 5.2 - 5.4 generating CGI error on IIS(5.1 and 6.0) ... Possible BUG?
1 - I tried with 1500,1400,1310,development version(1500) and ms4w beta... 2 - I´m using normal CGI 3 - My tests are only with Postgis... I´ll generate a shapefile to test later ... Paul On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Tamas Szekeres szeker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paul, Did you experience the same with the release-1310 and release-1400 versions? Did you experience the same with the development version? Are you using fastCGI or normal cgi? Is this just a PostGIS related problem or you get the same with a simple shapefile? Sorry for the bunch of the questions... Best regards, Tamas 2009/5/29 Paul james paulj...@gmail.com Yes Daniel... I deleted all previous files and put only 5.4 files... My mapscript application is working fine on 5.4... But the CGI dont... Tested on Windows XP (IIS 5.1) and Windows 2003(IIS 6.0)... Paul On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Daniel Morissette dmorisse...@mapgears.com wrote: Paul james wrote: Hi Daniel... I got the binaries from Tamas build : http://vbkto.dyndns.org:1280/sdk/Default.aspx And from MS4W 3.0 beta2... Same result with both... That error you got is my fault... I took off the : IMAGE ..\Map.png from REFERENCE definition when copy the code to email... My application works fine with 5.2 binary in iis 5.1 and 6.0 Just replacing with 5.4 binary I got that 502 error... Hopefully you always make sure you update all DLLs as well when you replace with 5.4 binary? Even if the DLLs have the same names, if they come from different build environments or versions they may not be compatible and could cause the kind of crashes that you are experiencing. Daniel -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Re: Upgrading 5.2 - 5.4 generating CGI error on IIS(5.1 and 6.0) ... Possible BUG?
What's the full URL submitted against the CGI? On 5/29/2009 at 12:59 PM, in message 33fad6880905291059i5602a89q84d7673ddcfff...@mail.gmail.com, Paul james paulj...@gmail.com wrote: 1 - I tried with 1500,1400,1310,development version(1500) and ms4w beta... 2 - Ím using normal CGI 3 - My tests are only with Postgis... Íll generate a shapefile to test later ... Paul On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Tamas Szekeres szeker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paul, Did you experience the same with the release-1310 and release-1400 versions? Did you experience the same with the development version? Are you using fastCGI or normal cgi? Is this just a PostGIS related problem or you get the same with a simple shapefile? Sorry for the bunch of the questions... Best regards, Tamas 2009/5/29 Paul james paulj...@gmail.com Yes Daniel... I deleted all previous files and put only 5.4 files... My mapscript application is working fine on 5.4... But the CGI dont... Tested on Windows XP (IIS 5.1) and Windows 2003(IIS 6.0)... Paul On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Daniel Morissette dmorisse...@mapgears.com wrote: Paul james wrote: Hi Daniel... I got the binaries from Tamas build : http://vbkto.dyndns.org:1280/sdk/Default.aspx And from MS4W 3.0 beta2... Same result with both... That error you got is my fault... I took off the : IMAGE ..\Map.png from REFERENCE definition when copy the code to email... My application works fine with 5.2 binary in iis 5.1 and 6.0 Just replacing with 5.4 binary I got that 502 error... Hopefully you always make sure you update all DLLs as well when you replace with 5.4 binary? Even if the DLLs have the same names, if they come from different build environments or versions they may not be compatible and could cause the kind of crashes that you are experiencing. Daniel -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [mapserver-users] Re: Upgrading 5.2 - 5.4 generating CGI error on IIS(5.1 and 6.0) ... Possible BUG?
http://localhost/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=C%3A%2Finetpub%2Fwwwroot%2FOpenlayer%2FFiles%2FMapserver%2FMap.mapmode=mapmap_imagetype=pngmapext=-180+0+-90+90imgext=-180+0+-90+90map_size=256+256imgx=128imgy=128imgxy=256+256 Paul On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Steve Lime steve.l...@dnr.state.mn.uswrote: What's the full URL submitted against the CGI? On 5/29/2009 at 12:59 PM, in message 33fad6880905291059i5602a89q84d7673ddcfff...@mail.gmail.com, Paul james paulj...@gmail.com wrote: 1 - I tried with 1500,1400,1310,development version(1500) and ms4w beta... 2 - Ím using normal CGI 3 - My tests are only with Postgis... Íll generate a shapefile to test later ... Paul On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Tamas Szekeres szeker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paul, Did you experience the same with the release-1310 and release-1400 versions? Did you experience the same with the development version? Are you using fastCGI or normal cgi? Is this just a PostGIS related problem or you get the same with a simple shapefile? Sorry for the bunch of the questions... Best regards, Tamas 2009/5/29 Paul james paulj...@gmail.com Yes Daniel... I deleted all previous files and put only 5.4 files... My mapscript application is working fine on 5.4... But the CGI dont... Tested on Windows XP (IIS 5.1) and Windows 2003(IIS 6.0)... Paul On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Daniel Morissette dmorisse...@mapgears.com wrote: Paul james wrote: Hi Daniel... I got the binaries from Tamas build : http://vbkto.dyndns.org:1280/sdk/Default.aspx And from MS4W 3.0 beta2... Same result with both... That error you got is my fault... I took off the : IMAGE ..\Map.png from REFERENCE definition when copy the code to email... My application works fine with 5.2 binary in iis 5.1 and 6.0 Just replacing with 5.4 binary I got that 502 error... Hopefully you always make sure you update all DLLs as well when you replace with 5.4 binary? Even if the DLLs have the same names, if they come from different build environments or versions they may not be compatible and could cause the kind of crashes that you are experiencing. Daniel -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ mapserver-users mailing list mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users