Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Peter Laursen
I have a few questions 1) will RocksDB be available on Windows? ToduDB isn't (because it does not compile on Visual Studio I think). 2) How large a set of configuraton options will RocksDB have? InnoDB now has100+ I guess, and that is a mess IMO. I liked the simplicity of the now dead Primebase (

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Peter Laursen
Now I remember that the name of the storage engine, I referred, was PBXT. -- Peter On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Peter Laursen wrote: > I have a few questions > > 1) will RocksDB be available on Windows? ToduDB isn't (because it does not > compile on Visual Studio I think). > > 2) How larg

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Vladislav Vaintroub
On 13.10.2016 12:00, Peter Laursen wrote: I have a few questions 1) will RocksDB be available on Windows? ToduDB isn't (because it does not compile on Visual Studio I think). Personally, I plan to make this happen . At least RocksDB works on Windows, the port seems to be done by competent pe

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Peter Laursen
I think Sergei G. told me once that TokuDB would not compile with Visual Studio and that MariaDB would only try to fix it in MariaDB if Toku people wanted to collaborate on this (what they did not). it probably was before TokuDB was swalloed by Percona . -- Peter On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:36 PM,

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Peter Laursen
.. so +1 for Rocks as compared to Toku: cross-platform support. -- Peter On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Peter Laursen wrote: > I think Sergei G. told me once that TokuDB would not compile with Visual > Studio and that MariaDB would only try to fix it in MariaDB if Toku people > wanted to coll

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread MARK CALLAGHAN
RocksDB runs on Windows. An external contributor keeps the build from breaking and uses it on Windows. On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:00 AM, Peter Laursen wrote: > I have a few questions > > 1) will RocksDB be available on Windows? ToduDB isn't (because it does not > compile on Visual Studio I think)

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Andrew Hutchings
Whilst I agree it would be a nice feature and something I've heard for years, the implementation would likely be more complex than it seems. For starters you have to consider the possibility of a procedure crashing and taking the whole daemon with it. You would likely need to fork a small work

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Peter Laursen
Personally I think (as told a few times before when this discussion arrived in this mailing list) that such feature should not be an *external language* as it should not IMO use what is installed independentlyof MysqL/MariaDB on the system. This lanugage intepreters should ship with the server - p

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Vladislav Vaintroub
On 13.10.2016 17:26, Andrew Hutchings wrote: Whilst I agree it would be a nice feature and something I've heard for years, the implementation would likely be more complex than it seems. For starters you have to consider the possibility of a procedure crashing and taking the whole daemon with

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Andrew Hutchings
Well, nothing should be using Python 2.x any more, period. But that is discussion for another time :) I get where you are coming from though. I can see both sides of the argument. Personally I prefer to have that logic closer to the application layer anyway. Hence my suggestion of doing it in

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Andrew Hutchings
On 13/10/16 16:53, Vladislav Vaintroub wrote: On 13.10.2016 17:26, Andrew Hutchings wrote: Whilst I agree it would be a nice feature and something I've heard for years, the implementation would likely be more complex than it seems. For starters you have to consider the possibility of a proce

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Justin Swanhart
Antony's work includes a client library change that lets perl/Java/or whatever run SQL on the THD. The parser was made reentrant, you connect with null credential and get current THD. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Andrew Hutchings wrote: > > > >> On 13/10/16 16:53, Vla

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Roberto Spadim
> 2- I am sure that a lot of people would implement procedures libraries if >> they could use something like JavaScript or PHP. If we could use Python, >> stuff like NumPy and SciPy could be used. > > Run a language inside database is something very interesting, normally it's done with daemon plugi

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Roberto Spadim
you are talking about this? https://launchpad.net/mysql-wl820/trunk/5.1.33-wl820 ​ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss Post to : maria-discuss@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss More help : http

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Justin Swanhart
That is it. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Roberto Spadim wrote: > > you are talking about this? > https://launchpad.net/mysql-wl820/trunk/5.1.33-wl820 > ​ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~maria-discuss Post to : mari

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Justin Swanhart
Wouldn't it be ironic for MariaDB to support java but not MySQL? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Justin Swanhart wrote: > > That is it. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 13, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Roberto Spadim wrote: >> >> you are talking about this? >> https://launchpad

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Ricky B
Thanks for the write up Colin. I had known about TokuDB potentially being dropped due to lack of developers and support. Understandable, but a real shame. At least rocksdb has a backup tool and some fun snapshot features. What I really want to know is, what's the future of transactional DDL in Ma

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Sergei Golubchik
Hi, Ricky! On Oct 13, Ricky B wrote: > Thanks for the write up Colin. > > I had known about TokuDB potentially being dropped due to lack of > developers and support. Understandable, but a real shame. At least rocksdb > has a backup tool and some fun snapshot features. There is development and su

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Pavel Ivanov
> For example, in MariaDB one can use InnoDB > for system tables too. Always could, even in 5.5, it's not a new > feature. There is no code that limits system tables to a specific > storage engine. This is not true even in MariaDB 10.2: https://github.com/MariaDB/server/blob/10.2/storage/innobase/

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread MARK CALLAGHAN
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Sergei Golubchik wrote: > Hi, Ricky! > > On Oct 13, Ricky B wrote: > > Thanks for the write up Colin. > > > > I had known about TokuDB potentially being dropped due to lack of > > developers and support. Understandable, but a real shame. At least > rocksdb > > has

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Roberto Spadim
hilarious kkk, IMO, a dot net / mono virtual machine could be nice, it can 'compile' php,python,c++/cli,and many others languages to cli (dot net bytecode) this make things easier what i think could be useful? a handlersocket like nosql interface, and a sql interface, that's all a user need to cre

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Laurynas Biveinis
There is development and support for TokuDB by Percona. 2016-10-14 6:43 GMT+03:00 MARK CALLAGHAN : > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Sergei Golubchik wrote: >> >> Hi, Ricky! >> >> On Oct 13, Ricky B wrote: >> > Thanks for the write up Colin. >> > >> > I had known about TokuDB potentially being

Re: [Maria-discuss] MariaDB Server 10.3 notes

2016-10-13 Thread Sergei Golubchik
Hi, Pavel! On Oct 13, Pavel Ivanov wrote: > > For example, in MariaDB one can use InnoDB > > for system tables too. Always could, even in 5.5, it's not a new > > feature. There is no code that limits system tables to a specific > > storage engine. > > This is not true even in MariaDB 10.2: > http