Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-26 Thread Lou Quillio
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Boris Le Ninivin wrote: > On 11/21/2012 06:04 PM, Michel Fortin wrote: >> If your idea of an improved Markdown is one that starts with a doctype, >> I'm afraid it won't get very far (with users and implementers alike). > > I completely agree with that statment. Th

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-21 Thread Boris Le Ninivin
On 11/21/2012 06:04 PM, Michel Fortin wrote: Le 2012-11-20 à 20:36, marbux a écrit : "Every MD implementation would have to have two behaviours, set either by a command line flag, a configuration file, or a preference if used with a GUI. One behaviour would be the individual behavior so that t

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-21 Thread Waylan Limberg
As the implementer of Python-Markdown (the most popular python implementation by far with many thousands of downloads - no way to know how many users) I would have to agree completely with Michel Fortin. This is something I do in my free time. I have an implementation that works for me and I don't

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-21 Thread Michel Fortin
Le 2012-11-20 à 20:36, marbux a écrit : > "Every MD implementation would have to have two behaviours, set either > by a command line flag, a configuration file, or a preference if used > with a GUI. One behaviour would be the individual behavior so that > the followers of that implementation woul

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-21 Thread Karl Dubost
Jelks, Le 21 nov. 2012 à 19:15, Jelks Cabaniss a écrit : > So if by some chance Markdown were to become a W3C Recommendation, it would > be patented by default? No. The patent policy is not to patent things. It is to protect technologies against patents. This is the opposite :) The patent poli

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-21 Thread Jelks Cabaniss
Karl, So if by some chance Markdown were to become a W3C Recommendation, it would be patented by default? Jelks On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Karl Dubost wrote: > Jelks, > > Le 21 nov. 2012 à 18:36, Jelks Cabaniss a écrit : > > I haven't kept up with the W3C policies in a long time -- do yo

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-21 Thread Karl Dubost
Jelks, Le 21 nov. 2012 à 18:36, Jelks Cabaniss a écrit : > I haven't kept up with the W3C policies in a long time -- do you need a > "patent policy" now to get a Rec? The Patent Policy already exists for Working Group. You do not need to create one, but you need to follow it once the work is ad

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-21 Thread Jelks Cabaniss
Paul, I haven't kept up with the W3C policies in a long time -- do you need a "patent policy" now to get a Rec? If so, I, and I doubt JG and many, probably most others on this list would even give a hoot. :) Jelks On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:03 AM, Karl Dubost wrote: > Jelks, and others. > Jus

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-21 Thread Karl Dubost
Jelks, and others. Just a note about W3C community groups. Le 21 nov. 2012 à 17:20, Jelks Cabaniss a écrit : > Secondly, I'm glad to see Markdown even being considered by the W3C for > standardization. It is not. Community Groups are groups that *anyone* can start about a topic related to the

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-21 Thread Jelks Cabaniss
Hi Paul, First, thank you for coming on this list. Secondly, I'm glad to see Markdown even being considered by the W3C for standardization. John Gruber -- even if he isn't -- should be proud. His idea was genius. That said, the original Markdown has no concept of class and id attributes on arb

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-20 Thread Chris Lott
It seems to me that hooking into a good existing project, like Pandoc, and creating the proper filter (or whatever they are called) would make sense. c -- Chris Lott ___ Markdown-Discuss mailing list Markdown-Discuss@six.pairlist.net http://six.pairlist

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-20 Thread Thomas Humiston
P.S. The quoting of that last line was a glitch by Apple Mail; don't go hunting the archive for a source. On Nov 20, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Thomas Humiston wrote: > So much well-spoken discussion in just one day! Good work, people. The fruit > of much work, pondering, and discussion, carried out wi

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-20 Thread Thomas Humiston
So much well-spoken discussion in just one day! Good work, people. The fruit of much work, pondering, and discussion, carried out with courtesy and professionalism. >From where I sit on the sidelines, I'd say standardization is happening. - TH ___ Mar

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-20 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* Fletcher Penney [2012-11-20 16:00]: > 1. Is Gruber in or out? He made his first contribution to the list in >years to basically say that he is out. For the purposes of this effort, this question seems irrelevant, based on several reasons. See next answer. > 2. If that is true, is everyone

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-20 Thread Fletcher Penney
(Since my opinion was asked for... ;) One of the last times this issue came up, I contacted the developers of a couple of other implementations off list to gauge their interest for such an undertaking. The reception was luke warm at best. This would be a fairly big project, if done properly

Re: Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-20 Thread Sherwood Botsford
Karl: From the response previously on this list it will be a hard sell. I think you will need to contact the owner of every MD implementation individually and talk them into it. As I've mentioned before on this list, the key is to recognize that there are differences in MD implementations and be

Community Group for Markdown Standardization

2012-11-20 Thread Karl Dubost
FYI, There was an interest from a few people to create a formalization of Markdown as it is currently implemented. A W3C Community Group has been created for moving forward and exploring the idea and create a spec if necessary. A W3C Community Group [1] is a platform for discussing, publishing