Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-23 Thread jonathon
On 10/12/2010 09:56 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > So I don't think it to be appropriate to differ between marketing and > localization only by different ISO codes. ISO 639-3 language codes are three letters. ISO 3166-2 country codes are two letters. disc...@de.libreoffice.org would be the Germa

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-18 Thread Italo Vignoli
jonathon wrote: > On 10/15/2010 02:27 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: > >> For the moment, let's use the general marketing list. > > No, no, a thousand times no. Being a professional marketer since 1981, I have been the strongest supporter of geography based marketing lists inside the OOo project, and

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-18 Thread jonathon
On 10/15/2010 02:27 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: > For the moment, let's use the general marketing list. No, no, a thousand times no. a) One of the major problems with OOo marketing in the US, was that they did not have their own list. Combining a generic, worldwide marketing policy with a geogra

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-16 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-16 13:05, jonathon a écrit : On 10/15/2010 12:32 PM, James Walker wrote: be to put the US and Canada in a group. and then try to put Mexico in a group with other Cental American countries where spanish is the language that they speak. I think that there should be at least one pers

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-16 Thread jonathon
On 10/15/2010 12:32 PM, James Walker wrote: > be to put the US and Canada in a group. and then try to put Mexico in a > group with other Cental American countries where spanish is the language that > they speak. I think that there should be at least one person who is part of the US group, and al

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Paré
- Original Message - From: Marc Paré To: marketing@libreoffice.org Sent: Fri Oct 15 15:43:27 2010 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group Le 2010-10-15 15:24, James Walker a écrit : I am all for that. last I had heard Indiana has plans to install 300,000 computers using

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Casey Adams
: marketing@libreoffice.org Sent: Fri Oct 15 15:43:27 2010 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group Le 2010-10-15 15:24, James Walker a écrit : > > I am all for that. last I had heard Indiana has plans to install 300,000 > computers using a combination of Ubuntu, a

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-15 15:24, James Walker a écrit : I am all for that. last I had heard Indiana has plans to install 300,000 computers using a combination of Ubuntu, and Novell for operating systems. I am not too sure on how many of those they have in the field at this time. Check out this link for

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread James Walker
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-15 14:55, James Walker a écrit : > > Thanks all, The US has been a difficult market to makes inroads into, >> Indiana has done some good things with Open Source in the classroom to the >> point that my children had to turn there assi

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-15 14:55, James Walker a écrit : Thanks all, The US has been a difficult market to makes inroads into, Indiana has done some good things with Open Source in the classroom to the point that my children had to turn there assignments in in ODF format to school. Recently I have been gett

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread James Walker
Thanks all, The US has been a difficult market to makes inroads into, Indiana has done some good things with Open Source in the classroom to the point that my children had to turn there assignments in in ODF format to school. Recently I have been getting inquiries into materials for other schools

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Drew Jensen
> Yes, however, I am just re-recovering from back surgery and am not too > too mobile yet. Learning how to walk again and more nasty stuff. Please your health is much more important. > > Florian said to go ahead and add to the > events calendar even if there is no speaker. At least it will sh

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-15 14:19, Drew Jensen a écrit : if you know of some events in Canada, point them out to me! We can all help out. Yes - and vice versa. Also, generating collateral really just puts more items into the community chest doesn't it. Actually speaking of helping each other - I'm looki

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Drew Jensen
> if you know of some events in Canada, point > them out to me! We can all help out. > Yes - and vice versa. Also, generating collateral really just puts more items into the community chest doesn't it. Actually speaking of helping each other - I'm looking for someone willing to speak at a LUG

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-15 13:34, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi, to sum up the current discussion, I will create market...@us.libreoffice.org over the weekend. Do we all agree on this, or did I miss something? (Quite behind my inbox...) Florian Yes, it sounds like there is consensus (looks like I am

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Andy Brown
On Fri Oct 15 2010 10:34:58 GMT-0700 (PDT) Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, to sum up the current discussion, I will create market...@us.libreoffice.org over the weekend. Do we all agree on this, or did I miss something? (Quite behind my inbox...) Florian +1 Andy (La Mesa, CA, USA) --

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Drew Jensen
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 12:26 -0500, Dave Johnson wrote: > I Can take care of the central time zone in the usa. > > Dave Johnson > Thanks Dave, Just to be clear - I'm not really that concerned about a list name. Rather I am interested in having TDF/LibreOffice represented on the ground at shows

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, to sum up the current discussion, I will create market...@us.libreoffice.org over the weekend. Do we all agree on this, or did I miss something? (Quite behind my inbox...) Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 9966

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Dave Johnson
I Can take care of the central time zone in the usa. Dave Johnson On Oct 15, 2010 11:32 AM, "Italo Vignoli" wrote: James Walker wrote: > The only issue I have with that idea is it is exactly how we always seem to >... It's just a question of time. In the past, it was a different issue as Sun w

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
James Walker wrote: > The only issue I have with that idea is it is exactly how we always seem to > end up never starting a Marketing list for the US. This has been an ongoing > discussion in the community for years. I for one would like to finally put > it behind us and finally create the list

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Marc, * Marc Paré schrieb: [...] Maybe a temporary solution would be a blend of both, something like disc...@us_ca.libreoffice.org . Please don't add temporary lists. I'd like to see all the mails archived, so we would need to keep these lists (even if they are set inactive when creating

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-15 09:26, James Walker a écrit : My firm believe is that we can easily combine the US and Canada on one list, the question is what would that list name be. I really do not want to alienate any of the Canadian list members by calling it market...@us.libreoffice.org if there would be an

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread James Walker
Well as you can see, I am willing to help an anyway that I can. Lucky for me right now I am slow at work and have some time on my hands Just let me know how I can help James On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Drew Jensen wrote: > > > > > The only issue I have with that idea is it is exactly

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Drew Jensen
> > The only issue I have with that idea is it is exactly how we always seem to > end up never starting a Marketing list for the US. This has been an ongoing > discussion in the community for years. I for one would like to finally put > it behind us and finally create the list and move on. >

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread James Walker
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Italo Vignoli wrote: > James Walker wrote: > > My firm believe is that we can easily combine the US and Canada on one > list, > > the question is what would that list name be. I really do not want to > > alienate any of the Canadian list members by calling it > >

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
James Walker wrote: > My firm believe is that we can easily combine the US and Canada on one list, > the question is what would that list name be. I really do not want to > alienate any of the Canadian list members by calling it > market...@us.libreoffice.org if there would be any concern from the

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread James Walker
My firm believe is that we can easily combine the US and Canada on one list, the question is what would that list name be. I really do not want to alienate any of the Canadian list members by calling it market...@us.libreoffice.org if there would be any concern from the Canadian members. If we do

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
James Walker wrote: > I have really not seen it as Marketing being split up by language. > especially for English, and Spanish. There are so many areas that both of > these languages are spoken that it would be hard to cover marketing based on > it. The advantage however is that the materials wil

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread James Walker
I have really not seen it as Marketing being split up by language. especially for English, and Spanish. There are so many areas that both of these languages are spoken that it would be hard to cover marketing based on it. The advantage however is that the materials will be able to be used in more

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-15 Thread Italo Vignoli
Marc Paré wrote: > But, if we are to be divided up according to country designation as per > SC wishes -- in this case especially the US, then no problem. We should > make sure that sharing of resources where they are scarce, as in my case > Canada, care be taken in providing support for the marke

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-14 Thread Marc Paré
Hi, Sorry for the delay here. I was thinking about this and more importantly I was reading emails. OpenOffice.org it seems to me was structured very much along language lines and I would suppose that this will naturally happen here also. These language demarcations where originally, I believe,

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-14 Thread Drew Jensen
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 21:10 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > Hi Marc, * > > Marc Paré schrieb: > > [...] > > > > Just a note to see if there had been a decision about this? Are we going > > with the sole US group or n.amer. group? Or are people still thinking > > this one out? > > > I think we cov

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-14 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Marc, * Marc Paré schrieb: [...] Just a note to see if there had been a decision about this? Are we going with the sole US group or n.amer. group? Or are people still thinking this one out? I think we covered the most important points in this discussion - at least for North America. In m

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-14 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Oct 14, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-12 20:41, Marc Paré a écrit : >> Le 2010-10-12 20:05, Alexandro Colorado a écrit : >> >>> >>> I am not sure it makes sense to split marketing efforts between >>> countries. >>> Is much better to have separation between languages instead

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-14 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-12 20:41, Marc Paré a écrit : Le 2010-10-12 20:05, Alexandro Colorado a écrit : I am not sure it makes sense to split marketing efforts between countries. Is much better to have separation between languages instead. Hi Alexandro: For some countries, a split like this would hel

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-12 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-12 20:05, Alexandro Colorado a écrit : I am not sure it makes sense to split marketing efforts between countries. Is much better to have separation between languages instead. Hi Alexandro: For some countries, a split like this would help in getting representation to exposition

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-12 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Bernhard Dippold < bernh...@familie-dippold.at> wrote: > Hi Jonathon, all, > > jonathon schrieb: > > On 10/12/2010 07:39 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: >> >> Trying to get some structure in, so any advice welcome. >>> >> >> ISO 639-3 language code, then .libreoff

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-12 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Jonathon, all, jonathon schrieb: On 10/12/2010 07:39 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Trying to get some structure in, so any advice welcome. ISO 639-3 language code, then .libreoffice.org: These are used for localization projects. ISO 3166-2 country code, then .then libreoffice.org: Thes

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-12 Thread jonathon
On 10/12/2010 07:39 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Trying to get some structure in, so any advice welcome. ISO 639-3 language code, then .libreoffice.org: These are used for localization projects. ISO 3166-2 country code, then .then libreoffice.org: These are used for marketing projects. dis

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-12 Thread Drew Jensen
guys, it's the 13th in parts of the world and the OO.o site started flying the 10th birthday colors - I really want to talk to a few friends over there at the moment. I don't think the project will come to grinding halt if we wait a few hours on this...OK -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-12 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi all, As Charles said, I think a US Group, to be declined later on, would be better for now. So please Florian, an disc...@us.libreoffice.org and a market...@us.libreoffice.org would be great for a beginning. That would also align with the other mailing lists and Regional groups and would be eas

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-12 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-12 15:53, James Walker a écrit : might as well stick with the normal and go with disc...@us.libreoffice.org On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Florian Effenberger< flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: Hi, what mailing list name structure would you propose for the US group (and o

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-12 Thread James Walker
That is true, I would guess that disc...@na.libreoffice.org would work unless the NA needs to be used for some other region On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Ryan Singer > wrote: > > > disc...@us.libreoffice.org is great. > > > > On

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-12 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Ryan Singer wrote: > disc...@us.libreoffice.org is great. > > On Tuesday, October 12, 2010, Florian Effenberger > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > what mailing list name structure would you propose for the US group (and > other groups for large regions)? > Thought the pre

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-12 Thread James Walker
might as well stick with the normal and go with disc...@us.libreoffice.org On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Florian Effenberger < flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > Hi, > > what mailing list name structure would you propose for the US group (and > other groups for large regions)? > > Mail

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-12 Thread Ryan Singer
disc...@us.libreoffice.org is great. On Tuesday, October 12, 2010, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > what mailing list name structure would you propose for the US group (and > other groups for large regions)? > > Mailing lists for the local projects will be @project.libreoffice.org, like > d

[libreoffice-marketing] list name for the US group

2010-10-12 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, what mailing list name structure would you propose for the US group (and other groups for large regions)? Mailing lists for the local projects will be @project.libreoffice.org, like disc...@de.libreoffice.org. I'm thinking about what we should set-up for US group. Either u...@libreoffi