Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-22 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-08-20 10:57: I think the role will help 'local' teams by making sure that not everyone in their team is forced to join the international list and yet they can have complete confidence that important and relevant stuff is being copied to the other list and being

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-22 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Drew, drew wrote on 2011-08-17 15:14: 1 - more then one person in an area as a contact 2 - these people are actively engaged in local activities 3 - REQUIRE feedback from these people on a regular basis [This has to be both a carrot / stick approach, heavy on the carrot] in other words, and

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-22 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2011/8/22 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Hi, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-08-20 10:57: I think the role will help 'local' teams by making sure that not everyone in their team is forced to join the international list and yet they can have complete confidence that important

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-22 Thread Tom Davies
something for lists to decide for themselves. Regards from Tom :) From: Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 22 August, 2011 12:13:08 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-22 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2011/8/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) I think that part of the point of having a named, regular, person is partly so that people in the local lists know who to contact about trivial issues that don't need to be broadcast to the entire list. Also to get clarification or to

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-22 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote on 2011-08-22 13:13: That's what I am trying to explain in Brazilian discussion@ list. thanks for driving the discussion there! +1. In fact, this task could be performed by anyone available when needed, not a specific person. In theory, yes, but I would

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-20 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, Warren Camilleri wrote on 2011-08-17 18:54: what i wanted to point out if a group's name could be stated as a national contact lets say for the Maltese community. I really would like to have only individuals listed. This fits also very well to the TDF membership idea. Florian --

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-20 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello Michalis, Mixalis Zisis wrote on 2011-08-18 22:33: Therefore, it would be great if I could be involved as a marketeer of LibreOffice. With the support of our Association, I am convinced we can carry out the tasks that I will undertake and we can actively promote LibreOffice accross

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-20 Thread Tom Davies
? Is a job-spec (list of duties) being developed somewhere? Regards from Tom :) From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 20 August, 2011 9:04:03 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-20 Thread Tom Davies
:) From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 20 August, 2011 8:59:25 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi Paulo, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote on 2011-08-16 16:48

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-20 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi Tom, 2011/8/20 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) +1 I think the role is an official gateway or point of contact between the 'local' community marketing teams and the international one. I think it would NOT restrict other people being unofficial points of contact / gateways /

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-18 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 18:54 +0200, Warren Camilleri wrote: Okay guys, Howdy I really didn't want an argument None here really - more likely a case of me mixing subjects snip i for one am a member of the Maltese loco team for Ubuntu, but here the point i wanted to show is for

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-17 Thread Warren Camilleri
-Original Message- From: Takaaki Higuchi Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:57 AM To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers I think it works for Japanese LO community. There are already several persons watching this mailing list

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-17 Thread drew
Higuchi Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:57 AM To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers I think it works for Japanese LO community. There are already several persons watching this mailing list. regards, Takaaki Higuchi

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-17 Thread Cor Nouws
drew wrote (17-08-11 14:52) if you want to look to a model then look to Ubuntu Local Teams Can you explain more? THanks, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-17 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 14:58 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: drew wrote (17-08-11 14:52) if you want to look to a model then look to Ubuntu Local Teams Can you explain more? I thought you'd never ask Quick comment: IMO the way the Marcons structure was at OpenOffice.org was passive, you setup a

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-17 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Thank you Drew, I like that approach! Btw, we still have not defined exactly what this network of marketeets would do in the field and in the project. Best, Charles Le 17 août 2011 15:15, drew d...@baseanswers.com a écrit : On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 14:58 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: drew wrote

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-17 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
+1. 2011/8/17 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org Thank you Drew, I like that approach! Btw, we still have not defined exactly what this network of marketeets would do in the field and in the project. Best, Charles Le 17 août 2011 15:15, drew d...@baseanswers.com a

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-17 Thread C. Olofson
On 08/17/2011 06:14 AM, drew wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 14:58 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: drew wrote (17-08-11 14:52) if you want to look to a model then look to Ubuntu Local Teams Can you explain more? I thought you'd never ask Quick comment: IMO the way the Marcons structure was at

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-17 Thread Cor Nouws
drew wrote (17-08-11 15:14) On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 14:58 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: drew wrote (17-08-11 14:52) if you want to look to a model then look to Ubuntu Local Teams Can you explain more? I thought you'd never ask Oh, sorry if I missed a prior suggestion from your side. Quick

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-17 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 15:48 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: drew wrote (17-08-11 15:14) On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 14:58 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: drew wrote (17-08-11 14:52) if you want to look to a model then look to Ubuntu Local Teams Can you explain more? I thought you'd never ask Oh,

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-17 Thread Warren Camilleri
-Original Message- From: drew Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:52 PM To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 14:17 +0200, Warren Camilleri wrote: as for a MARCON list it should be able to be like

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Kostas Mousafiris
I think that if we are to be realistic, then the use of English has been established for a long time as a de facto universal means of communicaton! So, I don't honestly believe that the use of any other language would work.It just could not serve our main purpose! Just one more thought: I

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
:) From: Kostas Mousafiris kvisi...@gnugr.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 7:07:05 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers I think that if we are to be realistic, then the use of English has been established

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, luizh...@gmail.com wrote on 2011-08-16 02:51: In practical terms, require all who wish to contribute are fluent in English seems rather elitist. I'm not ashamed to admit that my English is awful when you need to talk. But I am reassured when I need to read or translate any text in English

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Kostas Mousafiris
Στις 16/08/2011 12:46 μμ, ο/η Florian Effenberger έγραψε: Hi, luizh...@gmail.com wrote on 2011-08-16 02:51: In practical terms, require all who wish to contribute are fluent in English seems rather elitist. I'm not ashamed to admit that my English is awful when you need to talk. But I am

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Vitorio Furusho
Hello, I agree with the ideas of Florian at several points and follows a few more ideas: - There is no language problem at the local level, provided they have at least one staff who speaks English. - As for elections, I also believe that if a person is working well, no need to elect a new, other

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Varun Mittal
, that is a side issue. Any translator would be very helpful imo. Regards from Tom :) From: Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 12:20:50 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
Hi Furusho. In this discussion we must be aware that Florian wishes to separate TDF intitutional contacts from *Community Marketing Contacts*. In the other hand, I disagreee with the idea that *all* people must have those skills you've mentioned. All of those skills seems to be in the business

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
off diversity a bit. Regards from Tom :) From: Vitorio Furusho furu...@openoffice.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 15:20:40 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hello, I agree with the ideas

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Luiz Oliveira
Hi, 2011/8/16 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Hi, luizh...@gmail.com wrote on 2011-08-16 02:51: In practical terms, require all who wish to contribute are fluent in English seems rather elitist. I'm not ashamed to admit that my English is awful when you need to talk.

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, Luiz Oliveira wrote on 2011-08-16 19:54: And I vote for Paulo Lima to our gateway... please let's discuss the roles and objectives first, and then let's do the voting on the appropriate local lists. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2011/8/16 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Hello, Luiz Oliveira wrote on 2011-08-16 19:54: And I vote for Paulo Lima to our gateway... please let's discuss the roles and objectives first, and then let's do the voting on the appropriate local lists. +1 =) Florian

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Dave Johnson
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 11 August, 2011 11:38:37 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi, I am not entirely sure we have defined what would be the roles of this network. And I suggest that defining a basic set of roles

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-16 Thread Takaaki Higuchi
I think it works for Japanese LO community. There are already several persons watching this mailing list. regards, Takaaki Higuchi On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: In a nutshell: From the project's side of view, I would require one

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-15 Thread luizh...@gmail.com
:) From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 11 August, 2011 11:38:37 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi, I am not entirely sure we have defined what would be the roles of this network. And I

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-15 Thread luizh...@gmail.com
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 11 August, 2011 11:38:37 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi, I am not entirely sure we have defined what would be the roles of this network. And I suggest that defining

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-15 Thread Dave Johnson
-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi, I am not entirely sure we have defined what would be the roles of this network. And I suggest that defining a basic set of roles first would help us define what kind if skills we're looking for. For instance, such a marketeer network

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-15 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
in their teams. Regards from Tom :) From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 11 August, 2011 11:38:37 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-15 Thread Varun Mittal
-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi, I am not entirely sure we have defined what would be the roles of this network. And I suggest that defining a basic set of roles first would help us define what kind if skills we're looking for. For instance

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-12 Thread Tom Davies
:38:37 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi, I am not entirely sure we have defined what would be the roles of this network. And I suggest that defining a basic set of roles first would help us define what kind if skills we're looking for. For instance

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-11 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Dave Johnson wrote on 2011-08-11 00:59: I'd like to represent middle Tennessee market. thanks for your offer! Please wait with applying until we've sorted out the details and the process. :) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-11 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi, I am not entirely sure we have defined what would be the roles of this network. And I suggest that defining a basic set of roles first would help us define what kind if skills we're looking for. For instance, such a marketeer network ought to have as its primary mission to translate the

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-11 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Paulo, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote on 2011-08-10 21:51: Should those people be voted and have a mandate or those positions will be for a lifetime? =) no. :-) I think we could locally promote ellections from time to time. What do you think? I would propose to let every project/region

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-11 Thread Tom Davies
@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 11 August, 2011 11:38:37 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi, I am not entirely sure we have defined what would be the roles of this network. And I suggest that defining a basic set of roles first would help us define what

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 to all that, specifics are inline using an === to mark my comment. Regards from Tom :) From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 11 August, 2011 12:06:23 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-11 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
:) From: David Emmerich Jourdain jourd...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 21:15:50 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi, 2011/8/10 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) It might be possible

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-11 Thread Dave Johnson
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi, 2011/8/10 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) It might be possible for a team of people or even an individual that don't speak English to choose someone that does speak English to translate between

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-10 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
Hi Florian, Hello, since September 28th, 2010, everyone of you has done a fantastic job, invested a tremendous amount of work, and has been contributing a lot to make LibreOffice what it is today -- a software used worldwide, a well-recognized brand, and a name people trust in, something

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 20:51:47 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi Florian, Hello, since September 28th, 2010, everyone of you has done a fantastic job, invested a tremendous amount

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-10 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 20:51:47 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi Florian, Hello, since September 28th, 2010, everyone of you has done a fantastic job, invested a tremendous amount of work, and has been contributing a lot

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 21:15:50 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi, 2011/8/10 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) It might be possible for a team of people or even an individual that don't speak English to choose someone that does speak

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-10 Thread Dave Johnson
:) From: David Emmerich Jourdain jourd...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 21:15:50 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi, 2011/8/10 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-10 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2011/8/10 David Emmerich Jourdain jourd...@documentfoundation.org Hi, 2011/8/10 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) It might be possible for a team of people or even an individual that don't speak English to choose someone that does speak English to translate between their

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers

2011-08-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote (07-08-11 20:33) [...] Ideally, for every international projects that we currently have - http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists - we should find at least two community representatives, ideally even three. They will be listed on an official