Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Debian's new website -- some ideas for LibreOffice website?

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Mike,

Le mardi 05 novembre 2019 à 13:53 +0100, Mike Saunders a écrit :
> https://debian-newhomepage.larjona.net
> I like the way there's a clear distinction between community and
> product. Maybe it's something we could take inspiration from, in a
> future website redesign? What does everyone think?


Yes, I think we could pretty much revisit the "Discover LibreOffice", a
section I've never been quite happy with. I do notice something which
jumps to my eyes in the Debian's new website, which is how it has drawn
direct inspiration from our website:
- focus on community (with a picture taken at a conference)
- similar iconset
- words/terms close to what you find on our website.

So I'd say they took a lot from us, but their simple and clear
distinction between community and product is something for us to study
in turn.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tip Of The Day

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Heiko Tietze @ 2019-04-12 08:00 CEST:

> On 11.04.19 23:00, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
>> ...is why I couldn't locate the document in the folder tree today. Do you 
>> think
>> you could change the permissions on the folder or should we ask Guilhem for 
>> help?
>
> Permission granted on the folder now.
>
> Cheers,
> Heiko

I still cannot access it with the path you gave and a search in the search
bar did not return it. Do you think you could put the spreadsheet under
Common > Documentation or Common > Design ?

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tip Of The Day

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Heiko,

Heiko Tietze @ 2019-04-11 18:51 CEST:

> On 11.04.19 17:21, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
>> Thanks! Do you happen to have the path to the document or is it willingly 
>> obfuscated?
>
> It's under resources, here is the direct link 
> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/Resources=63842
> Not sure the folder structure is the same for everyone.

That's what I feared. I checked again following the link above and I was not
able to reach the document; in fact I was prohibited from accessing it. This
is why I couldn't locate the document in the folder tree today. Do you think
you could change the permissions on the folder or should we ask Guilhem for 
help?

Thank you,

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tip Of The Day

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le 11.04.2019 16:18, Heiko Tietze a écrit :

On 11.04.19 14:40, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
I must be dense but I've looked on NextCloud and cannot find the 
document. Also, I would like to have one centralized place for tips so 
if it goes on one place on NextCloud, so be it. But please DON'T ERASE 
the pad! :-)


Shared the link in the first message here again
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/D6zAC5wddW83xWT
It's LOOL powered so direct editing possible. Access is granted for
everyone (just enter an alias first).

I don't dare to touch the marketing board :-)


Thanks! Do you happen to have the path to the document or is it 
willingly obfuscated?


Best,

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tip Of The Day

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Heiko,

I must be dense but I've looked on NextCloud and cannot find the 
document. Also, I would like to have one centralized place for tips so 
if it goes on one place on NextCloud, so be it. But please DON'T ERASE 
the pad! :-)


Thanks,

Charles.

Le 10.04.2019 21:08, Heiko Tietze a écrit :

Please don't fix the marekting pad. I don't plan to compare this with
the document shared on Nextcloud. It's public and everyone with the
link should be able to change. If there is an issue the infra team an
me are happy to help.

Thanks a lot for creating the initial list,

Heiko

Am 10-Apr-19 um 18:33 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:

Hello there,

Great idea! As one of the main twitter admins for our project, I would 
like to invite the docs team to add to our tips database located here: 
https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/marketing

Scroll down for the tips.

Thank you,

Charles.

Le 10 avril 2019 18:23:26 GMT+02:00, Drew Jensen 
 a écrit :

Howdy,

Great idea.

So, I took a quick scan and noticed a type in tip 28. Fixed it in the
pad
but can't get an editable view in NC with the direct link and 
couldn't

find
it doing a quick scan through the shared folders. Can you post where 
it

is
there and I would do that there also.

Best wishes,

Drew

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 11:38 AM Heiko Tietze 


wrote:


We have the awesome daily tip on Twitter and shouldn't withhold this

great

resource of knowledge to our actual users. So I implemented a
tip-of-the-day dialog that pops up once per day when a module is

started.

There is no sequence and the "Next tip" button and what comes the

other day

is random (just to not store the last used id). Advanced users can

easily
disabled the dialog. It will be in the nightly build tomorrow (or 
the

next

days).

For now I used the strings from
https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/marketing. But not all tips are
up-to-date and it may need some revisions for proper English. I'd

like to

ask you to go through the list and change the strings or remove, if

needed.

Of course, additions are also also welcome. For collaborative work

it's

shared on https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/D6zAC5wddW83xWT

Every string may contain of _one_ hyperlink, which is separated from

the

text (taken from "http" until the end of the line). Single \ need

escaping

\\.

Last but not least every tip can have a small illustration (max 
120px
IIRC; larger sizes increase the dialog width). The first tip 
searches

for

tipoftheday_0.png, the second for tipoftheday_1.png etc. If not

present,

the light bulb from our gallery is shown. I believe those images

could be a

really cool eye catcher and helpful to get the point of the tip.

That's a

task for our great designers. Just send me the images or store it

somewhere.

Thanks a lot in advance,
Heiko


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tip Of The Day

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello there,

Great idea! As one of the main twitter admins for our project, I would like to 
invite the docs team to add to our tips database located here: 
https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/marketing 
Scroll down for the tips.

Thank you,

Charles.

Le 10 avril 2019 18:23:26 GMT+02:00, Drew Jensen  a 
écrit :
>Howdy,
>
>Great idea.
>
>So, I took a quick scan and noticed a type in tip 28. Fixed it in the
>pad
>but can't get an editable view in NC with the direct link and couldn't
>find
>it doing a quick scan through the shared folders. Can you post where it
>is
>there and I would do that there also.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Drew
>
>On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 11:38 AM Heiko Tietze 
>wrote:
>
>> We have the awesome daily tip on Twitter and shouldn't withhold this
>great
>> resource of knowledge to our actual users. So I implemented a
>> tip-of-the-day dialog that pops up once per day when a module is
>started.
>> There is no sequence and the "Next tip" button and what comes the
>other day
>> is random (just to not store the last used id). Advanced users can
>easily
>> disabled the dialog. It will be in the nightly build tomorrow (or the
>next
>> days).
>>
>> For now I used the strings from
>> https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/marketing. But not all tips are
>> up-to-date and it may need some revisions for proper English. I'd
>like to
>> ask you to go through the list and change the strings or remove, if
>needed.
>> Of course, additions are also also welcome. For collaborative work
>it's
>> shared on https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/D6zAC5wddW83xWT
>>
>> Every string may contain of _one_ hyperlink, which is separated from
>the
>> text (taken from "http" until the end of the line). Single \ need
>escaping
>> \\.
>>
>> Last but not least every tip can have a small illustration (max 120px
>> IIRC; larger sizes increase the dialog width). The first tip searches
>for
>> tipoftheday_0.png, the second for tipoftheday_1.png etc. If not
>present,
>> the light bulb from our gallery is shown. I believe those images
>could be a
>> really cool eye catcher and helpful to get the point of the tip.
>That's a
>> task for our great designers. Just send me the images or store it
>somewhere.
>>
>> Thanks a lot in advance,
>> Heiko
>>
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice on Social Media - Our goal is to be known

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Daniel,

Welcome to the LibreOffice community!
See my comments inline of your message...

Le dimanche 27 janvier 2019 à 16:16 +, Aquila Msiza a écrit :
> It’s Daniel,
> 
> I didn’t mean to send out the unfinished draft but as I couldn’t
> unsend it…here it is in its entirety.
> 
> 
> Hi I’m Daniel,
> 
> I have been using LibreOffice for a while and would like to
> contribute towards it reaching as many people as possible. I think
> awareness of its existence, the values it stands for and what it
> offers are a good starting point. The whitespace I see in this area
> are the many non-tech affine guys and gals who don’t know about
> LibreOffice. Although I’m not a stranger to the technology-world, I
> myself didn’t know much about LibreOffice until recently when a
> friend of mine, who studies IT, introduced me to the LibreOffice
> Suite. (I was contemplating with the idea of buying the Microsoft
> Suite)
> 
> One of the many groups we can target are students. Many students buy
> the Microsoft Office Suite because they see this as a necessity in
> order to be able to do their work and are not aware of other
> alternatives. (or think the alternatives are too difficult to use)
> Usually for these non-tech affine people it’s “tedious” getting to
> adjust to new software and therefore they make the ‘simplest’ choice
> of buying what their already familiar with.
> 
> Many don’t know about the LibreOffice option and I can assure you
> many don’t even need half the capabilities of LibreOffice – not to
> mention Microsoft Office – to complete their tertiary work.
> I think by acquiring and familiarizing  many students while their in
> universities (maybe expanding later on to schools), their able to
> accustom themselves to the software very early. Unlike other target
> groups, students are usually more diverse and interact usually on
> average with more individuals than other target groups. My point is a
> product that is free and offers value can start to spread like wild
> fire.
> 
> But for that to happen, first its capabilities and the fact that it
> exists have to be known.
> 
> Many pros I see in tackling this target market are not only acquiring
> pro LibreOffice non-tech affine people but recruiting many
> volunteers, who will be part of the LibreOffice community. I really
> believe this is true, as they realise the pure value we offer in
> return for ‘nothing’.
> 
> How to get there: The first goal is to be known
> 
> I looked at the different outlets LibreOffice has and Instagram
> wasn’t one of them. At the current moment in 2019 to reach the
> desired group of people and many other groups, we have to look at
> where the current attention is placed. Instagram and snapchat (not to
> mention Facebook, although the organic reach is decreasing there) is
> where the attention is. Although we have a Youtube channel, not many
> will stumble upon this.
> I think by being apart of different platforms, providing value and
> creating a community in different (social-) platforms will help us
> get the word out.
> 
> I propose in creating an Instagram account - whether we start small
> (native to the place i.e LibreOffice_US) or we create an HQ-account
> (i.e LibreOffice) - I am to take on the responsibility to
> administrate it.
> I want to be clear. The Instagram account will not exist for
> advertisement in a traditional sense. But is to provide value to the
> Instagram-community, cement our place on this platform and
> periodically show off the functionality that LibreOffice Suite
> offers.
> 
> The first goal is to be known.
> 
> 
> I will be happy to receive your feedback on this E-Mail address.

I really have two questions about your proposal -thank you for this by
the way:
* have you checked our Facebook page(s), our twitter accounts and our
reddit and YouTube channels?
* Instagram is indeed not where we are, however I'm curious what you
would like to produce in terms of content, since Instagram is about
pictures?

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] New header image for social media channels

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello everyone,

Simple messages are indeed what actually works.

However in this instance I am not sure that reusing  the icons of the suite is 
going to send any message. We are only impoverishing our branding elements with 
icons that everybody has already seen and that may be subject to change at some 
later release. Also, perhaps even more simply: what message are we trying to 
send here? It may be simpler than the previous one but I am not sure I'm 
getting it...

Best,

Charles.

Le 14 août 2018 09:56:46 GMT-04:00, Simon Phipps  a écrit :
>I like both of these. I would encourage others to consider that:
>
>   - This is just the header image. It does not need to include a
>   comprehensive message house
>   - Earnest messages can appear ingenuous to newcomers. Simple wins.
>
>Personally I would go with either of these as is for now and see how
>things
>go.
>
>S.
>
>On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Mike Saunders <
>mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Currently the header image for our Twitter and Facebook pages looks
>like
>> this:
>>
>> https://i.imgur.com/TKEKv69.jpg
>>
>> Recently, Andreas Kainz from the design community updated the icons
>for
>> the various components of LibreOffice, as shown here:
>>
>> https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/wp-
>> content/uploads/sites/2/2018/08/WhatsNewFig4a.png
>>
>> So based on them, I've created a new header image, which also adds a
>bit
>> of information about the software using our familiar tagline, and
>> encourages people to get involved:
>>
>> https://i.imgur.com/mY2essw.png
>>
>> What do you think? We could also translate it for social media on
>native
>> language projects...
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Conference Call

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Mike, Italo,

Sorry for not having been available - I have a few questions inline.

Le 20.07.2016 12:42, Mike Saunders a écrit :

NOTES FROM THE CALL

* Italo and Mike working on press release for LO 5.2: short general
information at the start, summarising the release; add at the end a
technical part, with links to background information

* We should talk about the new functions and features in Calc,
bringing LO closer to Excel

* UI changes: send a broad message that LO has a very flexible
interface, eg with the new single toolbar modes in Writer and Calc.
Use language that's closer to end users than UI experts

* Document classification: we are using a standard. Microsoft is using
another approach, RMS (Right Management System). Position LO in this
area as it becomes viable tool for large companies that are using
document classification


This looks like a great content base both for general communication on 
the 5.2 and for the "big" 5 features to be highlighted on the website. 
I'd be interested in the standard for document classification as well as 
the major new features so that we can define the top 5 features ahead of 
the release.




* Announcements: press briefings on Mon and Tues before release on
Weds; Italo and Mike to plan for those. Have a 5 - 8 slide
presentation to show in 15 minutes, followed by Q+A

* Also write personalised pitches to specific journalists, inviting
them to interview us or write articles

* Should include Asia in the process where possible - even if not for
5.2, start thinking about how to have a better relationship with Asian
journalists in future. Need to overcome language barrier

* Videos: English done, ideally will be localised for other languages.
Sophie to spread the word in NLPs to get translations / audio



Great videos!

Thanks,

Charles.




On 20.07.2016 11:21, Italo Vignoli wrote:

Link for the hangout:

https://hangouts.google.com/call/vubvmucyabecxkvm3gxskb6waie

AGENDA

Marketing Conference Call

ANNOUNCEMENT OF LIBREOFFICE 5.2 IS SCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 3, 
AT

NOON CEST (10AM UTC)

1. Press Kit
- General Press Release (focusing on positioning)
- Technical Press Release (focusing on new features)
- Background on User Interface Innovations
- Background on Document Classification Standards

2. Press Briefings
- Monday, August 1st: early morning for Asia/Pacific, late morning for
Europe, afternoon for the Americas
- Tuesday, August 2nd: early morning for Asia/Pacific, late morning 
for

Europe, afternoon for the Americas
- 1to1 Interviews will be planned on both days and all day on 
Wednesday,

August 3rd

3. Videos
- Links to videos will be provided in the press kit

4. Questions?

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-projects] IMPORTANT Marketing Conference Call

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Italo,

I cannot use Hangouts atm. Is there a way to connect via phone/landline?

Best,

Charles. 

Le 16 mai 2016 22:36:28 GMT+02:00, Italo Vignoli  a 
écrit :
>Marketing Conference Call for May is scheduled for Tuesday, May 17, at
>10AM UTC (noon CEST), based on the different people who have filled in
>the Doodle.
>
>The agenda for the call is the following:
>
>1. Announcement of LibreOffice 5.2: team brainstorming
>
>2. Preparation of announcement materials: discussion of needs
>
>3. Organization of pre-announcements for journalists
>
>4. Creation of specific badges/barnstars for LibreOffice 5.2
>
>5. Launch of "Week/Month of LibreOffice 5.2" in August?
>
>6. LibreOffice events around the world (e.g. FUEL/GILT in India)
>
>7. Other topics suggested by participants
>
>I will connect people who have filled in the Doodle using Google
>Hangout, as we are missing phone numbers for Taiwan and India. Other
>people interested in joining the call should provide their Google
>Hangout ID.
>
>Looking forward to hearing you!
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Women's Day Multilanguage Banner

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I think I will share it on Twitter via @libreoffice 

Cheers,

Charles. 

Le 6 mars 2016 17:18:38 GMT+01:00, "Daniel A. Rodriguez" 
 a écrit :
>As next Tuesday is Women's Day I've made a banner based on Freepik's
>design,
>http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/elegant-women-s-day-banners_838726.htm
>
>You can find the file at the wiki,
>https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Elegant-womens-day-banners.svg
>
>Each language has it's own layer, so if your own language isn't there
>you
>can translate the text easily
>
>
>ATB
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandising store

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Yes indeed, such a placement could be quite effective.

Best,

Charles.

Le Fri, 29 Jan 2016 06:01:58 + (UTC),
chandrakant dhutadmal <cpdhutad...@yahoo.com> a écrit :

> I agree. Spreading the store link through various mechanism is
> essential. I could not find the link on www.libreoffice.org website.
> Is it good to keep store link before "Donation" link so that people
> easily can find it ? Regards,Chandrakant Dhutadmal. 
> 
> On Friday, January 29, 2016 1:32 AM, Charles-H. Schulz
> <charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: 
> 
>  Sounds good to me. I suggest a button on the homepage and a menu
> somewhere on About us or something.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Charles. 
> 
> Le 28 janvier 2016 18:13:25 GMT+01:00, Florian Effenberger
> <flo...@documentfoundation.org> a écrit :
> >Hello,
> >
> >looking at our website it looks like the LibreOffice merchandising
> >store 
> >isn't heavily promoted.
> >
> >During FOSDEM we maybe should not overly promote it, as we have 
> >merchandise at the booth, but afterwards, how about making 
> >http://shop.spreadshirt.net/documentfoundation/ a bit more prominent?
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice merchandising store

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Sounds good to me. I suggest a button on the homepage and a menu somewhere on 
About us or something.

Best,

Charles. 

Le 28 janvier 2016 18:13:25 GMT+01:00, Florian Effenberger 
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>Hello,
>
>looking at our website it looks like the LibreOffice merchandising
>store 
>isn't heavily promoted.
>
>During FOSDEM we maybe should not overly promote it, as we have 
>merchandise at the booth, but afterwards, how about making 
>http://shop.spreadshirt.net/documentfoundation/ a bit more prominent?
>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Brussels Hackfest in social media

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I definitely can spread the news, why not.

Cheers, 

Charles. 

Le 7 janvier 2016 15:29:10 GMT+01:00, Florian Effenberger 
 a écrit :
>Hi,
>
>I wonder whether it makes sense to have the Brussels Hackfest in social
>
>media, e.g. as event, so people can show the world that they will
>attend.
>
>Italo, can you maybe have a look? The wiki page is at 
>https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2016
>
>Thanks!
>Florian
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice mini Conference 2016 Osaka/Japan (9th Jan, 2016)

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Takeshi-San,


Takeshi Abe <t...@fixedpoint.jp> @ 2015-12-28 04:08 CET:

> Hi Charles,
>
> As Naruhiko-san poked me about the interview material, I would like
> to make a pitch for some of your questions.
>
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:37:33 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz 
> <charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>> Sure - perhaps TDF could publish this interview on its official blog. Let's
>> have some questions - others please feel free to add more:
>> 
>> - Can you tell us more about the context of the Japan LibreOffice
>>   Mini-Conference?
>> 
>> - Can you tell us more about the LibreOffice Japanese community?
> In 2012 the idea of mini Conference in Japan have emerged from
> discussion in LibreOffice Japanese Team, which organizes the series of
> events. Our team consists of the most active contributors in the Japanese
> community, serving as a NLP now.
>
> To explain what we considered, let me summarize a history of the Japanese
> community since the OOo era briefly. (Please note that this is based on
> my personal view.)
> OOo already earned huge expectation from Japanese users. It was obvious
> from the number of migrations [1] in the country, and the fact that
> a government agancy led a project on techinical research for Japanese
> Language specific features [2].
>
> Unfortunately, like other groups in the OOo project, Japanese volunteers
> suffered from the bureaucratic nature of the project. Core members of
> NLP faced difficulty to focus on contribution. They eventually parted ways,
> ending up that some of them formed so-called "users group" [3] at 2002,
> to try taking care of the situation better than "official" NLP.
> The dispute seems to remain unresolved until today.
>
> This kind of separation resulted in fewer collaboration between volunteers
> and poor communication within the community. Worse, user and business
> organizations became skeptical about availability of skilled people who
> can help them send feed back to the project. That implied even fewer
> contribution.
>
> Time passed and the launch of LibreOffice struck. Its manifesto sounded
> exactly essential to us. Sure, meritocracy is the key. Early members of
> LibreOffice Japanese Team has chosen a flat structure with no lead.
> Our team encouraged each to do what he/she could do in his/her favorite 
> manner.
> It worked magically, and works well so far.
> But one practical issue recurs: how can we communicate effectively outside
> the project for, e.g., promoting LibreOffice, recruiting new volunteers or
> exchanging ideas with the industry, when we have neither authority nor
> structured man-power?
>
> One of the answers we argued was simple: let's gather and ask people who 
> concern.
> That's why mini Conference was born.
>
>> 
>> - Is LibreOffice known in Japan and are there known deployments in the public
>>   or private sector?
> Yes. You can find visible deployments at
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/JA/Marketing/CaseStudy
>
>> - Last question: do you have any specific goal for this mini-conference that
>>   would make you and the Japanese community happy?
> Yes. It aims at gathering people anually for unifying the community.
> It also gives our Japanese Team an off-line meeting.
>
> The last mini Conference was held in late 2014, which topic is code
> development from the Japanese community.
> It was not only a success with interesting presentations by young hackers,
> but also provided a tutorial for newbies about how to start hacking 
> LibreOffice.
>
> This time we plan to meet people among broader interests.
> We have called for both long and short form of presentations on whatever,
> whoever in the community would like to share.
> Accepted papers include ones from users, volunteers, academia and companies
> providing value-added service.
> I am sure that meeting friends in the community at early January and enjoying
> refreshingly cold air at Osaka will be great for new year's resolution :)
>
> [1] http://ossforum.jp/jossfiles/OpenOffice.org_use_cases_0.pdf
> [2] 
> https://web.archive.org/web/20070506220203/http://www.ipa.go.jp/software/open/ossc/2007/theme/koubo1_t01.html
> [3] http://oooug.jp/
>
> Cheers,
> -- Takeshi Abe

Excellent thank you! Italo, do you think we could publish this interview on
the official TDF blog?

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice mini Conference 2016 Osaka/Japan (9th Jan, 2016)

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Naruhiko-San,


Naruhiko Ogasawara <naru...@gmail.com> @ 2015-12-26 05:26 CET:

> Hi Charles,
>
>
>> I'll spread the enws on social networks next week and I'm sure we could
>> blog about the event and perhaps how it went. Maybe an interview might
>> be useful?
>>
>> Thanks, sounds great :)
>
> Please tell me if there is something I could provide you.
> An interview sounds good for me, although my English is not so good ;)

Sure - perhaps TDF could publish this interview on its official blog. Let's
have some questions - others please feel free to add more:

- Can you tell us more about the context of the Japan LibreOffice
  Mini-Conference?

- Can you tell us more about the LibreOffice Japanese community?

- Is LibreOffice known in Japan and are there known deployments in the public
  or private sector?

- Are there specific technical challenges for LibreOffice in Japanese?

- Last question: do you have any specific goal for this mini-conference that
  would make you and the Japanese community happy?


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice mini Conference 2016 Osaka/Japan (9th Jan, 2016)

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Dear Naruhiko-San,

I'll spread the enws on social networks next week and I'm sure we could
blog about the event and perhaps how it went. Maybe an interview might
be useful?

Best,

Charles.

Le Fri, 25 Dec 2015 09:49:14 +,
Naruhiko Ogasawara <naru...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hello,
> 
> I want to let you global people know how Japanese guys works.
> 
> Some of you may know via my blog[1], we, Japanese LibO
> community is preparing our annual event,
> LibreOffice mini Conference 2016 Osaka/Japan.
> 
> Here is a Japanese event site[2], and English Wiki[3].
> 
> Happy to say, we will invite Kohei Yoshida, a well-known Calc
> hacker, as a keynote speaker.
> We also have a HackFest at a next day, and he might help us
> to become LibO developers.
> 
> ja.libreoffice.org site[4] already provides it's information with
> a fancy banner, by Jun Nogata, a winner of 4.4 templates
> contest.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> [1]
> http://naruoga-en.blogspot.jp/2015/12/update-libreoffice-mini-conference-2016.html
> [2] http://libojapan.connpass.com/event/23688/
> [3] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/LibOCon_mini_JP
> [4] http://ja.libreoffice.org/events/



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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libo-marketing-priv] LibreOffice Tips

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Le 24 novembre 2015 01:42:17 GMT+01:00, Italo Vignoli  a 
écrit :
>We are collecting tips related to LibreOffice - any kind:
>configuration,
>deployment, howto, workarounds, suggestions - to spend as "gifts" for
>users during the upcoming Xmas season. Cloph has already collected a
>number of development tips, and we would like to complete the picture
>adding tips in other areas.

Italo,

Don't forget there are the tips on tje marketing pad here: 
http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/marketing 

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Celebrating the success of LibreOffice in Denmark @ OpenSource.Com

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Le 21 octobre 2015 22:20:02 GMT+02:00, Rajesh Ranjan  a 
écrit :
>My post on LibreOffice Conference 2015 :
>http://opensource.com/business/15/10/celebrating-success-libreoffice-denmark
>
>
>-- 
>Rajesh Ranjan
>www.rajeshranjan.in
>@kajha 
>
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>Join the largest FOSS l10n Conference - FUEL GILT Conference 2015
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Thanks Rajesh! Sorry I couldn't make it.
See you in Brno...

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Crowdfunding III Encounter Brazilin of LibreOffice

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Hello Klaibson,

Le 15.07.2015 12:19, Marc Paré a écrit :

Hi Klaibson,

Le 2015-07-12 16:42, Klaibson Ribeiro a écrit :


Good Afternoon.

The LibreOffice Community Brazil announces the III National 
LibreOffice
meeting, on 6 and 7 November 2015 at the premises of IES College, 
Campus

Campinas, in São José, in the Greater Florianópolis region.

The National Meeting is an opportunity for the Brazilian community of
users and LibreOffice developers to interact and participate in 
lectures

and workshops on the subject of LibreOffice Community of free software
and the software itself, user-level and developer level.

The event workshops will address intermediate use of techniques of
LibreOffice applications, spreadsheets, publishing texts, 
presentations,

drawings and database. It will be an opportunity for stakeholders to
have a first contact with the world of LibreOffice and start
professional use of tools.

The lectures will cover the software development topics, open document
standards and successes in the implementation of LibreOffice in the
public and private sector. It will be a good opportunity to learn tips
and solutions to the problems and challenges of a changing document
editing tool.

For more information, please visit
http://www.kickante.com.br/campanhas/iii-encontro-nacional-do-libreoffice#

Have a nice week.



I've listed the event on our events calendar and put you down as the
LibreOffice contact. Let me know if there is a problem with the post.

[https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/EventsCalendar]

Good luck with the crowdfunding.

Nice video! Could you let us know who took care of the video?

Also, perhaps you could see if Charles could add the event to the
LibreOffice events carousel? This would help generate traffic to the
crowdfunding site. [http://www.libreoffice.org/events/]



yes indeed. I'd need some logo/graphics for the page though.

Thanks,

Charles.



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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thanks for the support of the LO NA-DVD .iso file download

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Le 15.07.2015 12:24, Marc Paré a écrit :

Hi Tim,

Le 2015-07-14 10:17, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit :


Since July 8th, when the ISO file for my LibreOffice NA-DVD [English]
when online, I have had 90 downloads.

It had been a while, due to hardware and health issues, since I was 
able
to upload an ISO file.  These numbers tell me that there are people 
out

there that want my English DVD available for download.

So here is the break down of the Countries where the system is located
and the OS of the system that has downloaded it.

Top OS is Windows - 73%
Top Country is the USA - 26%

[hopefully the HTML table works in this post]


 CountryLinuxMacintoshUnknownWindowsTotal
1. United States 17% 0% 4% 79% 24
2. Japan 0% 0% 0% 100% 17
3. Germany 18% 0% 45% 36% 11
4. Russia 100% 0% 0% 0% 11
5. Italy 0% 0% 0% 100% 8
6. Canada 0% 0% 0% 100% 3
7. Portugal 0% 0% 0% 100% 2
8. Poland 0% 0% 0% 100% 2
9. United Kingdom 0% 0% 0% 100% 1
10. Israel 0% 0% 0% 100% 1
11. Australia 0% 0% 0% 100% 1
12. Malaysia 0% 0% 0% 100% 1
13. Denmark 0% 0% 0% 100% 1
14. South Africa 0% 100% 0% 0% 1
15. Mexico 0% 0% 0% 100% 1
16. France 0% 0% 0% 100% 1
17. Morocco 0% 0% 0% 100% 1
18. Thailand 0% 0% 0% 100% 1
19. Argentina 0% 0% 0% 100% 1
20. Hong Kong 0% 0% 0% 100% 1

 90



Nice stats and congratulations! And most of all, thanks for taking
care of creating the DVD.

It looks like the US is still the largest zone where a DVD is needed.
Although, if we were to market the DVD a little more aggressively, we
may find that the DVD may be popular in other zones.

Has the DVD availability been announced on the LibreOffice 
blog/FB/Twitter?


Now that you're mentioning it: no. But I do think we should put this ISO 
somewhere on our servers first before pointing people to it. We just got 
out of the SourceForge sh*tstorm - Let me ping the infra team for that.


Best,
Charles.



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] NA-DVD 4.4.4 ISO file uploading now

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Le 7 juillet 2015 20:22:54 GMT+02:00, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :


At this time - Tuesday July 7th 18:13 UTC - I am uploading the new 
NA-DVD .iso file to SourceForge.net.

It will take 8 to 10 hours [or more] to upload the 4 gig .iso via my 
Internet connection, due to the change in my service contract.

It has been awhile since my last creation of an ISO file version of an 
English LibreOffice DVD.  Now that I have better health and fixed one
of 
my hardware issues, the NA-DVD LibreOffice 4.4.4 version will soon be 
ready for users to download and burn a copy of the DVD.

So hopefully by 12:00 Wednesday UTC, or sooner, it will show up on the 
following link:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/libreofficenadvd/files/4.4.x-versions/

Just a tought - SF has a pretty funky reputation these days..perhaps we (the 
document foundation) could host the NA DVD directly?

Best,

Charles. 

Tim,


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Due diligence: Permission for usage of LibreOffice

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Le 20 juin 2015 04:36:51 GMT+02:00, Apollo D. Sharpe, Sr. 
adsharp...@ironrookcomputing.com a écrit :
Hello,

I'm not sure who to exactly send this to, but I represent Iron Rook 
Computing, LLC. In the coming months, we will be releasing a product 
that utilizes some of your software.As due diligence, I must officially

ask for permission to mention the usage of your software, link to your 
websites, and use images that show your software in action. We would
use 
these permissions in the following ways:

  * In our promotional material (written, digital, or otherwise)
  * In our customer support  troubleshooting systems
  * In any instance which such usage would be required to help users
accomplish their task
 * In any instance which such usage would be required for our employees
to their task

It's unfortunate that these things have to be done, sometimes, to cover

our tails. I'm not sure who's actually in charge, so I'd appreciate 
you're help in getting over this hurdle.

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Dear Mr Sharpe,

Thank you for your email. LibreOffice is released under a free software license 
as explained here: http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/licenses/ . LibreOffice 
is developped by its community under the umbrella of its own Foundation,  the 
Document Foundation ( http:// documentfoundation.org ). 

As such you may distribute it freely but there may be specific rules applying 
depending on the cases.  

What would be the way you would distribute or interact with LibreOffice ?  We 
have a legal point of contact should you have more questions. 

Thanks, 

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Due diligence: Permission for usage of LibreOffice

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Le 20 juin 2015 22:21:09 GMT+02:00, Apollo D. Sharpe, Sr. 
adsharp...@ironrookcomputing.com a écrit :
On 6/20/2015 2:25 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote
 Thank you for your email. LibreOffice is released under a free
software license as explained here:
http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/licenses/ . LibreOffice is
developped by its community under the umbrella of its own Foundation, 
the Document Foundation ( http:// documentfoundation.org ).

 As such you may distribute it freely but there may be specific rules
applying depending on the cases.

 What would be the way you would distribute or interact with
LibreOffice ?  We have a legal point of contact should you have more
questions.

Mr. Schulz,

Thanks for your quick reply. Currently, the plan is for our hardware to

run the PC-BSD operating system. LibreOffice is currently a part of the

installation file of that OS. What we would like is permission for the 
following uses:

* Usage of pics showing components of LibreOffice on our product's
monitor
 * Usage of links that point to your project's help, FAQ, wiki,  other
such documentation  troubleshooting pages
* The mention of LibreOffice as software that can be run on our product


The usages you mention are covered in our licenses and our trademark policies. 
You are free to use LibreOffice in the ways you described in the message above.

Cheers,

Charles-H.  Schulz. 

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Events page out of date

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le 2 juin 2015 14:59:18 GMT+02:00, Florian Effenberger 
flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :
Hi,

thanks for spotting!

K-J LibreOffice wrote on 2015-06-02 at 12:53:
 Which one should we put in instead?

LibOCon 2015 at the very least, maybe OSCON?

Indeed and maybe an event in Brazil. I am pretty much the only one updating the 
page so I am happy to see others fill in.

Best,

Charles. 

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Fwd: contact LO Belgium-fr ?

[Charles-H. Schulz]

William, 

Sounds good to me.

Thanks a lot,

Charles. 

On 21 avril 2015 10:53:19 CEST, William Gathoye will...@gathoye.be wrote:
On 04/16/2015 12:36 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Hello William,
 
 Sorry for top posting. You are right, lengthy brochures are wholly
ineffective
Ok.

 I am mostly interested in results at this stage. What would be the
easiest option for you? Draft a simple one or reuse the existing?

On 04/15/2015 03:57 PM, Abelli - agnez wrote:
 for our event on april 24th, 150 to 200 will do
 agnez

Since it's a bit too late to design and print professional flyers now.
I'm gonna
reuse, reduce and adapt the existing brochure, without involving the
designer
from Pixin'ko.

I could print let's say 50 brochures here at work, on standard paper.

Since I can't come to the Associalibre event, I could potentially send
the
printed version to you, Agnes, thanks to the guy who won the 2015 Free
Software
Award. He has a conference to give there, at Associalibre, but cannot
find it on
the timetable[1]. He will be at our startup integrator tomorrow. He has
already
accepted bringing these brochures to you if you want. In that regard,
we will
have to find a way for you to recognize him.


Regards,

[1] http://www.associalibre.be/Grille-horaire

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Fwd: contact LO Belgium-fr ?

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Hello William,

Sorry for top posting. You are right, lengthy brochures are wholly ineffective 
but Pierre-Yves merely updated the existing one. There is unfortunately a 
strong bias here of people who think people enjoy reading pages about 
LibreOffice and FOSS :-)

I am mostly interested in results at this stage. What would be the easiest 
option for you? Draft a simple one or reuse the existing?

Best,

Charles. 

On 16 avril 2015 11:44:34 CEST, William Gathoye will...@gathoye.be wrote:
On 04/15/2015 03:54 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

 Meeeh. True enough. Then we have a problem. William, do you feel like
putting up
 a small brochure in French? Using the Discover section of the website
should do it.

As Pierre Yves updated his version, do I still need to create a small
brochure?
Not to undervalue Pierre's work, but according to the advertisers and
marketing
specialists I have here in the company I'm working, a 3 folds brochure
like this
with so much text in it is likely not to be read. Except maybe by
nerds, but
end-users won't, if we have to distribute such brochures outside IT
conferences.

Also according to the feedback they have, I wonder if a brochure is the
best
format. Maybe flyers would fit better and would be cheaper to print.
When
printed the text on Pierre's work is rather big, reducing it would
allow us to
reduce paper size and cost.

I think LibreOffice needs a consistent and greatly designed marketing
campaign
across languages about its flyers. Providing the same consistent
brochure/flyer
in different languages for UK, DE, NL and FR would reinforce our
branding.

On 04/15/2015 03:30 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Again, we are not so interested with a co-sponsorship but I would
need a
 ballpark estimate of how much we're talking about.

Do you need a ballpark about the price or the number of
brochures/flyers you need?

If this is about the price, read on.

Here in the company, we need at least 1.250 prints (lower than
excepted) in
order for us to have preferential prices.

Based on Pierre's work, for A4 colourful brochures (recto verso) with 2
folds
(already folded), printed on 135gr glossy paper (traditional paper for
printer
are 80gr so this is a great improvement compared to the brochure we
have now) +
free redesign from Pixin'ko with sources is 319€ (VAT excluded). (372€
for 2.5k
prints). Lowering the price is possible if we play with paper quality
and print
delays. If after compression, you find it still too expensive, like I
said,
co-partnership is possible with our small mentioned logo below the
flyer/brochure.
But for Brussels, we will need to have the final version before end of
week in
order to have them printed before 24th April.

If you need to order as a company, or in the name of TDF, I don't think
you need
to add VAT, because this basically consists in intracom exchanges. The
delivery
price depends on the location where we need to send the package.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Fwd: contact LO Belgium-fr ?

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le 14.04.2015 20:23, William Gathoye a écrit :

On 04/14/2015 06:56 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Whatever brochures we need and we probably need some we will pay in 
full with no

third party logo :-)


Great. Keep me informed. Read below for more details.

On 04/14/2015 05:58 PM, William Gathoye wrote:

Little precision needed before I ask the others : which is the company
the logo whould be added ?


The company I'm working in as an intern is called Pixin'ko [1], this is 
the same
structure which is editing StudentGo[2][3], a social network for 
student
looking a first job/internship in relation to their studies. We already 
made a

win-win tweet, as reminder[5].

As you can see on their website[1], Pixin'Ko is in charge of graphical
development and has great narrow partners with local printers in order 
to

compress prices, but by still providing excellent quality.

If you know the TEDx conferences, Pixin'ko developed the brochure[4] 
and

graphical dev for the last event held in Liege, Belgium.

For LibreOffice, the graphical development will be free, but *only if* 
TDF needs

2000 brochures.


So the question is: do we have a brochure (me thought we already have 
one)?




If you want to compress the price, which will depend on the 
format/print quality
you want, Pixin'ko can make a discount if the logo you can find at the 
centre of

their website[1], is printed below the brochure as a small strip.
You can get an even greater reduction if, still based on this paper 
[6], one of

the 6 vertical column contents makes advertising for Pixin'ko.


Again, we are not so interested with a co-sponsorship but I would need a 
ballpark estimate of how much we're talking about.


Best,

Charles.






Regards,


[1] http://pixinko.be/
[2] https://www.studentandgo.com/
[3] http://www.summerjob2015.be/
[4] http://goo.gl/0jXDwk
[5] https://twitter.com/willubuntu/status/563728040950525952
[6]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/3/3e/LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-FRLtr.odt

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Fwd: contact LO Belgium-fr ?

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Sophie,

Le 15.04.2015 15:40, Sophie a écrit :

Hi Charles,
Le 15/04/2015 15:30, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :

Le 14.04.2015 20:23, William Gathoye a écrit :

On 04/14/2015 06:56 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Whatever brochures we need and we probably need some we will pay in
full with no
third party logo :-)


Great. Keep me informed. Read below for more details.

On 04/14/2015 05:58 PM, William Gathoye wrote:
Little precision needed before I ask the others : which is the 
company

the logo whould be added ?


The company I'm working in as an intern is called Pixin'ko [1], this
is the same
structure which is editing StudentGo[2][3], a social network for 
student

looking a first job/internship in relation to their studies. We
already made a
win-win tweet, as reminder[5].

As you can see on their website[1], Pixin'Ko is in charge of 
graphical
development and has great narrow partners with local printers in 
order to

compress prices, but by still providing excellent quality.

If you know the TEDx conferences, Pixin'ko developed the brochure[4] 
and

graphical dev for the last event held in Liege, Belgium.

For LibreOffice, the graphical development will be free, but *only 
if*

TDF needs

2000 brochures.


So the question is: do we have a brochure (me thought we already have 
one)?


FR project has one that is outdated, and there is no ongoing work on 
the

marketing/documentation side, so no inforgraphics, brochures, etc.


Meeeh. True enough. Then we have a problem. William, do you feel like 
putting up a small brochure in French? Using the Discover section of the 
website should do it.


Thanks,

Charles.



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: contact LO Belgium-fr ?

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Hi,

On 14 avril 2015 08:46:34 CEST, pierre-yves.sa...@laposte.net wrote:
Hi

Someone from Abelli is asking help with a free software event in
Brussels, April 24. Someone speaking French able to help, and join?? 

Very sorry, I could not free myself for that date...

I do not know the target audience but for Information material in
french:

Wiki : marketing pages https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/fr
-For instance the general information brochure.
-Postcard  (useful links to the project).

See also Documentation:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/fr

See also Libre blanc: Qu'est-ce qu'une fondation open source ? Petite
explication via LibreOffice
http://inno3.fr/contributions/livres-blancs-inno3

Indeed:-) where is William Gathoye btw? He lives in Liège. ..

Best,

Charles. 



HTH
Regards
Pierre-Yves


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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Fwd: contact LO Belgium-fr ?

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello William, 

Whatever brochures we need and we probably need some we will pay in full with 
no third party logo :-)

But do we need them for this event? Cor do you have some leftovers?

Best,

Charles. 

On 14 avril 2015 17:58:03 CEST, William Gathoye will...@gathoye.be wrote:
On 04/14/2015 05:16 PM, Abelli - agnez wrote:
 Hello William,
 thanks for asking the French team !
 It's surprising that there is no info material in french, I had the
 impression that libreOffice is quite visible. But probably I have
never
 come across anything in French..
 
 Maybe, if I could find a volunteer to translate, would you have a
source
 file for a flyer in English or Dutch ? Cor, maybe you have the file
of
 the paper you handed out at FOSDEM ? I think it's really worth a try
to
 have some info material, as libreOffice should be installed at any
 association ;)
 We don't really have a budget for printing, but I'll try to do a
minimum
 somehow...
 
 I think the analysis by Arc is very useful for the public we want to
 attend. Thanks for pointing me to it.
 
 Best
 Agnez
 
 
As Charles pointed out, we have a French brochure available from [1]
and called
Brochure d'information générale. It's basically an ODT file and is
already
translated into French.

How much printed versions do you need? The company I'm in as an intern
could
provide a redesigned version and print it too if you want, but this is
unfortunately not for free. If a small logo of the company could be put
below
the paper, I can have a discount price.

@TDF, @Charles

Do you need new designed brochure even for the FOSDEM next year? If you
need 2K
pieces, the branding material will be returned to you in a modifiable
version.

Regards

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/fr

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] IV Meeting Catarinense of LibreOffice - Document Freedom Day Chapecó

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Great news, thanks for sharing! Could you please update our own DFD wiki and 
send us apng or jpeg for our events section on the website?  It needs regular 
updating but unfortunately I am alone doing this and very much behind schedule. 

Best,

Charles. 

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Good Night.

Are pleased to announce that occur tomorrow in the city of Chapecó /
SC, 
the IV Catarinse of LibreOffice and the same time, we will do Document 
Freedom Day, which will be the Document Freedom Day, which apparently 
will occur only 2 events EDP in Brazil.

Details and access www.oesc-livre.org/libreoffice 
www.documentfreedom.org

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[libreoffice-marketing] Open Tech Summit Berlin

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Anybody plans to go there/have a booth? 

http://opentechsummit.net/

Best,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Localized LibreOffice to be used in Govt of Maharashtra, India

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Chandrakant, Danishka, all,

I've posted the news and the link today on the official @libreoffice 
twitter account, on our Google Plus Page (the Document Foundation) and 
on the LibreOffice page on Facebook :-)


Best,

Charles.


Le 07.03.2015 04:40, chandrakant dhutadmal a écrit :

Yes. Thanks Danishka for the link. :)
RegardsChandrakant Dhutadmal

 On Saturday, March 7, 2015 12:30 AM, Danishka Navin
danis...@gmail.com wrote:


 I found something from a document upload released on last November. 
;-)


Hon’ble CM appreciated the work done by CDAC Pune for developing Sakal
Marathi Font and many plug-ins like Marathi SpellChecker and Marathi
Shaskiya ShabadKosh plug-in for Opensource Libre-Office, and instructed
that all Government offices across the state should be encouraged to 
use

these for creating any new documents.

https://www.maharashtra.gov.in/site/upload/WhatsNew/DigitalIndiaMeetingDIT-CMO-Verified-27-11-2014.pdf


On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:


Excellent!

Do you happen to have a link that we can share?

Best,
Charles.

On 6 mars 2015 18:38:37 CET, chandrakant dhutadmal 
cpdhutad...@yahoo.com

wrote:
Hello All.
Though late, it gives me immense pleasure to inform you all that Govt.
of Maharashta, India has decided to encourage use of Libre Office in
all its offices. C-DAC has been instrumental in this decision from
govt. C-DAC will provide necessary help to the departments to start use
of this free and open source software.
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Localized LibreOffice to be used in Govt of Maharashtra, India

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Excellent! 

Do you happen to have a link that we can share? 

Best,
Charles. 

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Though late, it gives me immense pleasure to inform you all that Govt.
of Maharashta, India has decided to encourage use of Libre Office in
all its offices. C-DAC has been instrumental in this decision from
govt. C-DAC will provide necessary help to the departments to start use
of this free and open source software.
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Localized LibreOffice to be used in Govt of Maharashtra, India

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Thanks! 

Best, 

Charles. 

On 6 mars 2015 19:59:10 CET, Danishka Navin danis...@gmail.com wrote:
I found something from a document upload released on last November. ;-)

Hon’ble CM appreciated the work done by CDAC Pune for developing Sakal
Marathi Font and many plug-ins like Marathi SpellChecker and Marathi
Shaskiya ShabadKosh plug-in for Opensource Libre-Office, and instructed
that all Government offices across the state should be encouraged to
use
these for creating any new documents.

https://www.maharashtra.gov.in/site/upload/WhatsNew/DigitalIndiaMeetingDIT-CMO-Verified-27-11-2014.pdf


On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Excellent!

 Do you happen to have a link that we can share?

 Best,
 Charles.

 On 6 mars 2015 18:38:37 CET, chandrakant dhutadmal
cpdhutad...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 Hello All.
 Though late, it gives me immense pleasure to inform you all that
Govt.
 of Maharashta, India has decided to encourage use of Libre Office in
 all its offices. C-DAC has been instrumental in this decision from
 govt. C-DAC will provide necessary help to the departments to start
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 of this free and open source software.
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Two ideas about LibreOffice tips

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Hello Zeki, Sophie,

Le 25.02.2015 10:44, Sophie a écrit :

Hi Zeki,
Le 23/02/2015 21:39, Zeki Bildirici a écrit :

Hi,

1- Currently we share LibreOffice tips on @libreoffice twitter account
on weekly bais with #tipsoftheweek (14 char.) hashtag.

For more circulation of the tips and user interaction - user based
tips production, i suggest that we could ask users to share their own
tips with a unique hashtag #LibreOfficeTips (16 char and its unique -
no tweets yet) .

With this unique hashtag, we can collect lots of tips from users.

I have a script -didn't used it by myself, but i know the guys who
wrote them and they will be glad to help us),  which collects tweets
with particular hashtags, which we can use it to harvest the tweets
later.

In addition to above, this hashtag on circulation will increase our
brand awareness too.


Yes indeed.



Also we can do it on Google+ which supoorts hashtags too.


+1. Let's do that starting tomorrow on Twitter at least!




We can start a campaign from @LibreOffice account something like:

A) Your knowledge is valuable, want to share it with others? Start
sharing your LibreOffice skills with #LibreOfficeTips hashtag.

and

B) Sharing is caring, help us to spread the useful #LibreOfficeTips
by retweeting the tweets with #LibreOfficeTips hashtag.


I'm not taking care of that, but it's a great idea :)


+1




2- Currently we have 286 tips on
http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/marketing . I think it is time to
move them wiki and start to translate this life/time/mind saving great
content to our local pages. Or what about moving them to Pootle?


All the tips should go to the FAQ if it's not already there. What goes
on the wiki don't go on Pootle (well, except for the Help which is a
different process), it's much more simple to pick an article and
translate it straight in the wiki.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq



What Sophie wrote :-)

Thanks!

Charles.



Thanks a lot for your feedback :)
Kind regards
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] DFD

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Shoot. You're right. But the question remains valid even for that date :-)

Sorry about that!

Charles. 

On 23 février 2015 19:57:52 CET, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 21-02-15 19:04:

 Document Freedom Day is coming in a few days

Is there a date in different countries? Unless I'm terribly mistaken, I
would bet that is is March 25 in The Netherlands..

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Fw: 14 February 2015 - I love Free Software Day

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Hi,

On 13 février 2015 02:35:25 CET, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com 
wrote:
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Hehe. Will share.


The postcards that FSFE had at FOSDEM are great -- I've sent a couple
off already. Perhaps we can coordinate a bit earlier next year and
have some more LibreOffice stuff prepared.

Speaking of which, the 'bug walrus' has gotten into the Valentine's Day
spirit:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/

If anyone would like SVG sources, just poke me :-)

It has been noticed by people on Twitter. I have used the IloveFS hashtag today 
through the LibreOffice handle but I will be ready for more tomorrow. 

Thanks! 

Charles. 



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 On 12 février 2015 02:40:42 CET, Thorsten Behrens
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Hi,

FYI - sounds ideal for spreading on social networks shortly before.
:)

- Forwarded message from Matthias Kirschner m...@fsfe.org -

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 17:24:03 +0100
From: Matthias Kirschner m...@fsfe.org
Subject: 14 February 2015 - I love Free Software Day

Dear all,

I am quite sure many of you receive a lot of bug reports, feature
requests or criticism during the whole year. Sometimes people forget
to
thank others for their good work. So for this Saturday, 14 February
2015, we again ask people around the globe to show their love to the
people behind Free Software (=you, too).

We made some suggestions here (available in 8 languages):

  https://fsfe.org/news/2015/news-20150209-01.html

and we would be thankful if you can spread this to your communities,
and
thereby motivate other Free Software contributors to continue their
good
work [1].

Feel free to order some postcards, leaflets, or posters for your
office
on
https://fsfe.org/contribute/spreadtheword.en.html#ilovefs-campaign
or use our graphics
https://fsfe.org/campaigns/ilovefs/artwork/artwork.html.

I hope many of you will receive a nice thank you note, a picture
https://fsfe.org/campaigns/ilovefs/whylovefs/gallery.en.html, a
drink,
some chocolate, a hug, or other cool signs of appreciation. You
earned
it! And I hope that you also have some time to thank others.

Thank you all for your work!
Matthias

  1. On 15 February you can write the next bug report ;)

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Fw: 14 February 2015 - I love Free Software Day

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Hehe. Will share. 

Thanks, 

Charles. 

On 12 février 2015 02:40:42 CET, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org 
wrote:
Hi,

FYI - sounds ideal for spreading on social networks shortly before. :)

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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 17:24:03 +0100
From: Matthias Kirschner m...@fsfe.org
Subject: 14 February 2015 - I love Free Software Day

Dear all, 

I am quite sure many of you receive a lot of bug reports, feature
requests or criticism during the whole year. Sometimes people forget to
thank others for their good work. So for this Saturday, 14 February
2015, we again ask people around the globe to show their love to the
people behind Free Software (=you, too). 

We made some suggestions here (available in 8 languages):

  https://fsfe.org/news/2015/news-20150209-01.html

and we would be thankful if you can spread this to your communities,
and
thereby motivate other Free Software contributors to continue their
good
work [1].

Feel free to order some postcards, leaflets, or posters for your office
on https://fsfe.org/contribute/spreadtheword.en.html#ilovefs-campaign
or use our graphics
https://fsfe.org/campaigns/ilovefs/artwork/artwork.html.

I hope many of you will receive a nice thank you note, a picture
https://fsfe.org/campaigns/ilovefs/whylovefs/gallery.en.html, a
drink,
some chocolate, a hug, or other cool signs of appreciation. You earned
it! And I hope that you also have some time to thank others.

Thank you all for your work!
Matthias

  1. On 15 February you can write the next bug report ;)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Conference Marketing: Upgrading LibreOffice/OpenOffice

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Very much agree.
We need a banner or somesuch. K-J is it something you feel you could do?

Best,

Charles. 

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UPGRADING LIBREOFFICE/OPENOFFICE

I keep on meeting people who are using an ancient version of
LibreOffice or OpenOffice. Aside from physically handing people a CD
or USB stick with a modern version of LibreOffice,
= what are some good ways for us to encourage people to upgrade to
the latest LibreOffice?

= What do people think about some kind of campaign to upgrade to the
latest version of LibreOffice? (This is something that could tie-in
with DFD events)


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[libreoffice-marketing] Short text for Fresh and Still branches has been published

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello,

Based on the issue #793 on RedMine, a short text has been published on
each download page (Fresh and Still) that describes in a few words what
each branch means.

best,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

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Hi,

On 22 décembre 2014 14:15:37 CET, Jean-Francois Nifenecker 
jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net wrote:
Hi,

Le 22/12/2014 10:40, Sophie a écrit :

 We often worry about lack of community involvement, but, when there
is a
 wonderful occasion where community involvement with such a contest
where
 there is a low-entry level of understanding of LibreOffice and where
 template usage is directed towards our users, we do not even provide
 users the chance to vote on a template contest ... surely a users
idea
 of what a good and purposeful template would be different from a
 designer's perspective.

I'm *very* reluctant to such a community project: templates very often 
show their cultural origin. This means that an american template won't 
fit a French user at all, and vice versa. There are some such templates

True and it is dangerous since it could show some spontaneity and community 
involvement. We surely do not want that ;-)


on the extensions website already. I had written about that problem to 
the authors, hoping to find a way to make better tools, to no avail
yet.


 I'm not sure users are aware of all the needed things to have a
reliable
 template and one that could be localized too, so the best way would
be
 that the design team does a pre selection and let the users vote only
on
 the templates that complies.

Could the Design team devise a template template that international 
users could use as a starting point?

What would be the standard for such a template? We all come from different 
origins so we will all face the same issues and these can be adapted by users 
or by native lang projects to match their own standard. Let us not create 
difficulties. Let this be a joyful moment for community participation!

Best,
Charles.




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

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Le 22.12.2014 15:02, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit :

Hello Charles  all,

Le 22/12/2014 14:31, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :


True and it is dangerous since it could show some spontaneity and
community involvement. We surely do not want that ;-)


uh ?



What would be the standard for such a template?


Of course I haven't got the answer 'cause I think that contest thing
to be a false good idea. Besides, I'm not part of the people proposing
the contest, am I?


Yes, but as you know in French, criticism is easy, action is more 
difficult. So I would have guessed you would have come up with an 
actual proposal. Or maybe it was just a warning that you think that it 
might lead to problems ?





We all come from
different origins so we will all face the same issues and these can
be adapted by users or by native lang projects to match their own
standard. Let us not create difficulties.


Launching the contest *is* creating difficulties.


Not doing anything is better?




Let this be a joyful moment
for community participation!


Leading where? (asking is answering)


You choose:

- To an awful and dark place where templates do not match the various 
national standards of letters. To a bleak future, where entire 
information systems will explode when dozens of millions of people will 
open LibreOffice daily and will shout in horror at the mere sight of 
non-standardized templates. Outside, in the scarlet light of our dying 
sun, tumbleweeds of shrubs, dust, and paper sheets roll around deserted 
streets. Doom has come upon humanity


- To an opportunity to attract designers and people who may have never 
found a way to contribute to LibreOffice; besides the t-shirt, all of 
these would have  their own creations distributed inside a software 
distributed worldwide. In the mean time, we, the LibreOffice project, 
take advantage of this much needed and new material to improve our 
software and the user experience. National and local customizations are 
welcome if there's a compliance issue within document templated.



More seriously: Asking is not always answering. We are a community; and 
as a community in a Free Software project we can change or customize the 
outcome of our productions (code, templates, content).
If you are so concerned  about this i18n probem, then perhaps you could 
propose and even organize a contest for the fr project?





Anyway, I'll stop ranting as this is not appreciated 'round here ;-)


What is not appreciated is lack of enthusiasm and constant downing that 
is usually found on the fr mailing list; what is appreciated and 
respected are opinions, whatever they might be,  and contributions.


Best,

Charles.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

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Hello Jan,


Le Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:40:51 +0100,
Jan Holesovsky ke...@collabora.com a écrit :

 Hi Charles, all,
 
 Charles-H. Schulz píše v Čt 11. 12. 2014 v 10:50 +0100:
 
  What we must decide is the process itself.
 
 Very good questions.  Because the time is extremely short for 4.4, we
 have straightened this up so that we can publish the PR ASAP:
 
  1) how do people register and upload their templates
 
 The submission will be trivial - just a mail to this list, we'll
 collect the templates on a wiki page as they arrive.
 
  2) what categories do we define
 
 Authors of the templates propose the category, we'll then define the
 final categories according to the templates that arrive :-)
 
  3) who decides/votes
 
 The Design team at one of the weekly hangouts.  The decision process
 will be simple - for each template that arrives, either a general
 consensus on the given template, or it is not included for 4.4.0 (and
 can be re-evaluated for later inclusion).


I had thought we would make it really inclusive (i.e. inviting everyone
to vote); is it not desirable?

 
  4) deadline and scheduling.
 
 Needs to happen in time for RC2 (beginning of January), so that there
 is still chance to do changes for RC3.  Of course, if any good
 templates arrive later, they'll be still appreciated, and can be
 included in later versions (4.4.x).

Besides my comment above, all agreed from my side.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

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Hello Jay, Adolfo, all,

Indeed, I need to clarify a bit what I wrote yesterday: when I wrote 
that embedding templates inside LibreOffice or uploading them on the 
templates site did not make a difference, I meant that to me the 
workload or a strong opinion about what path is the best is not 
important *to me*. From a marketing/PR perspective, once you know what 
path you take for this you just communicate accordingly. There's no real 
good or bad option. However from the perspective of the design team it 
does change things a lot.


I've read Jay's document, and I suggest we put up a real PR + spread the 
word on social networks, alongside a dedicated page on our website. You 
do not need to worry about all this :-)


What we must decide is the process itself.
1) how do people register and upload their templates
2) what categories do we define
3) who decides/votes
4) deadline and scheduling.

my suggestions:

1) we need to check with the infra team for the registrations. We could 
have them upload their templates through our Owncloud server or using 
our wiki(is it a bad idea?) then list the list of submission on the wiki 
or on our LimeSurvey instance.
2) writer: document templates, forms Calc: calendars, ... Impress: 
presentation templates anything else
3) I suggest to keep this very simple and informal: anyone can vote but 
there's an IP check on this. Which means that anyone can vote, you can't 
vote twice in theory, but the polls are really public and open.

4) we should have this ready for FOSDEM (end of January)

What do you think?

best,

Charles.

Le 10.12.2014 18:57, Jay Philips a écrit :

Hi Charles and All,

Yes we had discussed this same issue at last week's design meeting and
decided to go with having the contest and bundling the chosen templates
in 4.4 as unfortunately the template website won't fill the newly added
template section in the start center.

I have begun a write up of what the TDF announcement of the contest
would be at the following link, so please do provide comments as well 
as

suggest template categories users should focus on.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WLh_SdpyGVb4n-lzsPJ4XTNNDa0SGwUwo3Onm1HjoK8/edit?usp=sharing

Jay

On 12/10/2014 03:10 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Hello,

This is a topic that did come and go, but now that we are lucky to 
have
a revamped design/ux team we should probably put that back on track 
:-)


LibreOffice needs both new and fresh document templates . Whether they
are directly embedded and are shipped with LibreOffice or are 
available
on our templates website is not really a topic, but interestingly 
enough

the work done on the Templates website prompts us to get new document
templates.

Jay suggested a month ago that we launch a contest and we certainly 
can

do that over our social networks. But we need to be sure materials can
be uploaded and work on the selection process (I would go for a 
popular

vote). What do others think?

Best,

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[libreoffice-marketing] New templates contest

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Hello,

This is a topic that did come and go, but now that we are lucky to have 
a revamped design/ux team we should probably put that back on track :-)


LibreOffice needs both new and fresh document templates . Whether they 
are directly embedded and are shipped with LibreOffice or are available 
on our templates website is not really a topic, but interestingly enough 
the work done on the Templates website prompts us to get new document 
templates.


Jay suggested a month ago that we launch a contest and we certainly can 
do that over our social networks. But we need to be sure materials can 
be uploaded and work on the selection process (I would go for a popular 
vote). What do others think?


Best,

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

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Le Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:40:14 -0800,
Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com a écrit :

 Hey Milan,
 
  Le mercredi 10 décembre 2014 à 10:23 -0800, Joel Madero a écrit :
  On 12/10/2014 09:25 AM, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote:
  Hi Charles-H.,
 
  it is still mandatory that people release their work to the public
  domain, as it was the case in the last contest? That was my only
  gripe at the time, as IMHO it reduced both the quantity and
  quality of the work received.
  IMHO this is a requirement - I'm not sure about legally but I
  think as a practical point they must be released under copyleft
  licenses, free to use and distribute as desired.
  Note that public domain is completely different from copyleft. 
 
 Indeed, I should have been clearer. I definitely mean copyleft and not
 public domain :)


Like Joel said :-) I will answer in more details tomorrow.

Cheers,

Charles.
 
 Best,
 Joel
 



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[libreoffice-marketing] Opening a new Twitter account for users support

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Hello,

10 days ago I had posted this:
http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2014/11/30/user-support/

and it was suggested off list that we open a new official LibreOffice
twitter account solely dedicated to users support. 

The good news is that we would already have someone willing to
contribute to it, albeit not everyday. We need more people however
(ideally one or two more to start). If there are volunteers as well,
please let me know here or off list.

It should be stressed that similar initiatives in languages other than
English are highly welcome.

Thanks!

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing/conference case

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Hello Florian,

On 15 novembre 2014 11:46:04 CET, Florian Effenberger 
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
Hi,

one of the outstanding budget items is organizing the 
marketing/conference case - last status I am aware of is that Robinson 
wants to organize it for the US, and CharlesRob for Europe.

Any update on that?

With that being said, I have an offer from a German community member to

organize something, in case CharlesRob lack time - we have quite a few

events in Germany anyways, so that might make sense.

Ok for me. Wasn't Sophie up for that as well?

Best,

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] definite article in the name “The Document Foundation”

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Hello Lera,

Le Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:52:58 +0200,
Lera Goncharuk lera.goncha...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Hi all,
 
 I want to ask one question.
 Why was article “the” added to the name “The Document Foundation”? As
 I understood, it's not just because of grammar rules.
 Thank you in advance.

As I was the one who originally came up with that name (although the
founders had to all be in agreement with it), I may answer. It is not
exactly clear why, and I probably forgot a few things sine we first
started all this, but I know for sure that in English, if you say
Document Foundation it will not have the same effect than if you say
the Document Foundation. The definite article the puts emphasis on
the rest of the name, which itself has one very generic noun
document. So The Document Foundation is really THE foundation of
the Document.

Hope this helps,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Working with RedMine

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Hello K-J,

On 30 octobre 2014 10:05:17 CET, K-J LibreOffice k...@libreoffice.org wrote:
Hi Charles,
Am 29.10.2014 um 10:29 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
 Le 28.10.2014 21:25, K-J LibreOffice a écrit :
 The Design team will probably close his Redmine experiment at all
[1].
 The VI-marketing design part can leave to Marketing Redmine (if it
is
 possible), the Wiki and the Forum of Redmine-Design will be closed.
 As I do some VI-marketing design and as I think that Redmine is a
good
 instrument for that work, I hope you will give my project asylum.

 [1] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg06763.html



 hum... Several things here, let me take them on in a more logical
order:

 1) What is VI-Marketing? :-) We're happy to offer asylum if it is
 marketing related of course.

Designing marketing material, conference stuff, covers for 
documentation, banners, logos etc.


Oh three times yes :-) welcome!

Best,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Working with RedMine

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Hello K-J,


Le 28.10.2014 21:25, K-J LibreOffice a écrit :

Hi Charles, *,
Am 24.09.2014 um 14:29 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
[...]

Thanks for your feedback and everybody's feedback. I now ask everyone
here to refrain from posting on this list for a month (until the 24th 
of

October) and only use RedMine.
For the sake of experiment, people can use the RedMine wiki as well, 
for

the same period. We'll reconvene here after that date and evaluate our
experiences.


As the 24th is over, do we have a result for the Marketing team?

The Design team will probably close his Redmine experiment at all [1].
The VI-marketing design part can leave to Marketing Redmine (if it is
possible), the Wiki and the Forum of Redmine-Design will be closed.
As I do some VI-marketing design and as I think that Redmine is a good
instrument for that work, I hope you will give my project asylum.

[1] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg06763.html




hum... Several things here, let me take them on in a more logical order:

1) What is VI-Marketing? :-) We're happy to offer asylum if it is 
marketing related of course.


2) I read in the link several points that must be commented or amended. 
Yes there is a strongly voiced opinion by the infra team that the 
RedMine wiki is not to be used at all; forums are a bit different, they 
do raise some real questions in the case of an existing mailing list 
(more on that below). However RedMine and its issues/tickets is not to 
be closed at all. I don't know where that is even written, but this is 
gross misunderstanding and perfectly inaccurate. RedMine is intensively 
used for task and issue management NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO CODE. In 
other words, when these are not software bugs or l10n patches, they all 
go to RedMine. It is not my decision or opinion, it is the infra team 
itself. I thought it was useful to restate all these details to clear 
any misunderstanding. Unless of course you received an email from the 
board I never received ;-)


3) Feedback on the marketing experiment with RedMine. A lot of people 
are uncomfortable with using RedMine as a replacement for the mailing 
list, but task management is felt to be more effective through RedMine. 
The wiki is not to be migrated at all anyway. This leaves us not so much 
with a status quo but an increased use of RedMine for tasks. The public 
marketing list will remain open and active. Let me stress however that 
the mailing list discussion must always be directly based on an ongoing 
task. Any general talks or rant about the state of the IT and why 
LibreOffice has not yet adopted a Ribbon interface should take place on 
1) the discuss list 2) social networks like G+ 3) /dev/null


I hope it answered some of your questions,

Charles.

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[libreoffice-marketing] No posting please

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Everyone,

This post is to remind you that we are not supposed to post anything on the 
marketing list for a month. 

Anything hou would like to post can be done directly on RedMine instead by 
commenting or opening a new issue.

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Tokushima prefecture published LibreOffice manuals under CC BY 4.0

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Please folks . NO POSTING on this list. 

We are TRYING a different workflow. 

Thanks,

Charles.

On 6 octobre 2014 18:52:57 CEST, jonathon toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote:
On October 5, 2014 10:38:34 PM PDT, Naruhiko Ogasawara wrote:

[2] http://www.pref.tokushima.jp/english/

500 error.

[3] http://www.pref.tokushima.jp/docs/201108192/

404 error.

Did they get mangled in the email conversions?

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Events in 2015 - New wikipage created

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Thanks Marc and Robinson,

Please remember to *only use RedMine this month* and not the marketing
list (aka the experience :-) )

Cheers,

Charles.


Le Sun, 05 Oct 2014 11:45:28 -0400,
Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit :

 Thanks! I really like the naming convention that you have adopted, it 
 would be nice if we could follow the same convention in the following 
 years; it makes the pages more predictable to find.
 
 Also, I update the visual Google Calendar 
 [https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/EventsCalendar]. It is nice when 
 people let me know of any impending events as I will fill them in on
 the calendar. I also cruise on the other lists where some list
 members mention LibreOffice dates.
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Marc
 
 Le 2014-09-30 13:46, Robinson Tryon a écrit :
  Hi all,
 
  I created a new wikipage for events happening in 2015 here:
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2015
 
  Please stub-in any events that are happening in your area in 2015,
  and create wiki pages as appropriate.
 
  Best,
  --R
 
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Working with RedMine

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Hello Jean-Baptiste, all,

Le 23.09.2014 20:23, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit :

Hi,

Le 19/09/2014 12:10, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :

[...]
Well, I'd like us to have an experiment on our work first - and right
now it has become obvious to many that this list is not serving much
either. Could I ask you and others for a month to subscribe to the
activity feeds on RedMine and then tell us about your experience
afterwards?


I am currently following Design Team workflow on Redmine using both
email and RSS in Thunderbird. My main concern is to be able to, at
least, read offline. Each one has its advantages and disadvantages:

- email: the sender of each article is The Document Foundation 
Redmine

which is useless as information. On the other side you can answer by
email, then you can work offline. The grouping in discussion (the main
article, its answers and the answers to the answers) is poor as it is 
in

a forum because you can't really see who answers to who.


Indeed. I wonder whether we can tweak that or if we ought to file an 
enhancement request directly to the RedMine project.




- RSS: the sender is the real one but you can only read.


er, it is usually how rss feeds work ;-)


 On the other

side, RSS articles can't be grouped in discussions.


no but they update themselves, so to speak.



Thanks for your feedback and everybody's feedback. I now ask everyone 
here to refrain from posting on this list for a month (until the 24th of 
October) and only use RedMine.
For the sake of experiment, people can use the RedMine wiki as well, for 
the same period. We'll reconvene here after that date and evaluate our 
experiences.


Thank you again,

Charles.




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Working with RedMine

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Le 18.09.2014 20:27, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit :

Hi,

Le 18/09/2014 14:05, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :


On 18 septembre 2014 12:49:50 CEST, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl
wrote:

Florian Effenberger wrote on 18-09-14 12:13:


So you suggest we do not experiment with anything?


it's just my personal opinion - if each project hosts their

discussion

somewhere else, chaos will break free. Plus, the entry barrier
for Redmine is much higher than for a mailing list, which makes
me fear

we

would exclude people if we exclusively focus on that.


I've only read Charles initial mail (well and this short one) What
I thought of:

RedMine is great. Project focussed working. OK Furthermore: I think
additionally a mailing list is important. Just that people can ask
questions. Or to send some not one x/y/z.. Also, if just all great
ideas are added (sometimes it may look like dumping) at Redmine,
wouldn't that incline the risk of causing a mess. Could be
coordinated via mail ;/


Yes indeed.



Charles: you think of doing all that via the discuss-list ??


Well the point is to ensure that the discussions remain on the
discuss list abd the work goes on Redmine. To answer Florian: I think
today we have metrics showing we do not gain any contributors through
the marketing mailing list but spend lots of energy maintaining it. I
suggest we refrain from posting on it for 1 month and see how we feel
about it...



I, for one, am subscribed to the libreoffice Marketing and the Design
lists (among others). Both lists managers (sorry, can't find an
appropriate wording here) have decided to go the Redmine route. I
understand this is much better for the workflows.

I have to say that I appreciate receiving news through the lists
channels, even though I don't post much. Stopping these channels won't
bring information any more to the public about what's going on, the
design paths that are taken. Thus, to me, as I probably won't have much
time to visit the LibreOffice Redmines, the project life will now turn
to be much on the stupid users side and I shall be deprived from much
insight.



There are no stupid users :-)
Anyway, the answer to your concern is that you can follow the activity 
on RedMine (anything from task, issues and comments on these) by 
susbcribing to the Atom feed. Just like with email, you can use your 
email client, your browser, or an online service for that: 
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/projects/marketing/issues look 
down right the screen for the link.



The problem you raise, however, deserves a better answer. You can of 
course follow a mailing list, but it's been two years since there has 
been several talks, not just here, about the need for the community to 
be aware of everything's happening in the project. the LOWN initiative, 
presently on the wiki, is probably a much better way to follow what's 
going on as well, and at some point it will have to become as rich in 
its form as it already is with its content. By which I mean that we are 
going to have to think about not just the newsletter format, but also 
about an online platform allowing anyone to subscribe and follow it in 
several ways (RSS, email, Twitter, etc.)




I think leaving the Design and Marketing lists is a big mistake. Many
people might be like me: listening much and speaking little. The fact
that there's little incoming traffic doesn't mean there's no interest.


Hence, I join my voice to Florian's one and kindly ask for a second
thought on both the concerned lists.


Well, I'd like us to have an experiment on our work first - and right 
now it has become obvious to many that this list is not serving much 
either. Could I ask you and others for a month to subscribe to the 
activity feeds on RedMine and then tell us about your experience 
afterwards?


Best,

Charles.



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Working with RedMine

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Hello Robinson,


Le 17.09.2014 20:01, Robinson Tryon a écrit :

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

1. Public Marketing List ShutDown
The marketing list carries little of our current workflow; in fact, 
most of

it has gone to the RedMine issue tracker already. On top of this, the
marketing list is not read by most of the people concerned by 
marketing

activities, namely the native-lang projects worldwide. PR coordination
happens on the private list and to a lesser extent on IRC for 
meetings. The

marketing list, just like any list, requires administration work, i.e.
moderation. There's a lot of spam arriving, usually in waves, and it
requires the approval or refusal of incoming mails (spam, unsubscribed
posters, etc.)


How public is the marketing project in Redmine?  Right now people can
easily join or review what's going on in marketing by subscribing to
or looking in the marketing archives. Would the same public nature
carry-over into Redmine?


Yes, absolutely. While RedMine does offer the ability to close, 
privatize, restrain certain spaces and areas or entire projects we are 
not contemplating that and should always keep this public. Anyone -today 
that is already the case if I'm not mistaken- can check out RedMine, see 
what's going on and in order to edit RedMine you need an account (an 
email address and password).





anything else, such as
discussions, would happen on the discuss list and for cross-project
awareness on the project mailing list.


So let's say someone want to discuss marketing strategies in schools.
Would that go to the tdf-discuss list, or?


There are several answers to that question. One is indeed to go to the 
discuss list, especially to discuss strategies. We had many 
discussions on these on the marketing list, even on the marketing list 
of the old OpenOffice.org project. None - none - actually carried any 
action item, task, concrete plans. It may perhaps be too long to discuss 
why that is so, but to this day this is the state of things we are left 
with. Essentially, I love strategies myself, but only the ones that are 
executed or executable. This is where we're coming back to RedMine: a 
strategy must be defined and broken down into several tasks, where 
progress report can be made (even if results may not always be 
measurable), and we can do this easily with RedMine.


Another answer is that strategies are not devised every month and as 
such we are more likely talking about people who have ideas. Here again 
it is hoped that people can transform ideas -which are cheap unless 
someone acts on them- into a set of action items, and in doing so moving 
further in the definition of the idea and its realization.






2. New Wiki

I am personally not entirely sold on this one, but we are in a 
situation
where the marketing wiki pages are quite numerous, yet completely 
chaotic,
and often outdated. We can think about cleaning these wiki pages, but 
given

their amount we may consider to start a fresh with a new wiki. I'm not
suggesting that we open twenty new wiki pages on RedMine tomorrow, but 
that

we use it for a month if we need it.


One of the benefits of having a single wiki is the ability to easily
cross-link between teams, etc. Plus we do have a ton of content up
there, including event pages stretching back multiple years. If the
Marketing pages on the TDF wiki are hopelessly unusable, we can always
move them all under /Marketing-old/ and start from a blank slate,
but I'd expect that some heavy editing might be more productive?


I really don't know. I also think that if we move to a brand new wiki we 
are indirectly questioning the relevance of the existing wiki, in one 
way or another, and it is not clear at that stage we want to leave the 
old wiki. My suggestion is to use the new wiki as an experiment for 
one month, and see where it takes us.






** Expected results:

- increased efficiency
- less maintenance (for us, not necessarily for the infra team ;-)  )
- increased clarity in terms of resources, contacts, etc.


Could you explain a bit more what you mean re: resources/contacts?


Yes: it is my hope that resources (collaterals for instance) will be 
better displayed and easily retrievable on RedMine. Today it is complex.





- task-based workflow (partially achieved already)


A big +1 to a task-based workflow. I've been experimenting with
redmine a bit myself, and I think that it has some potential for
anything that's specifically encapsulated as a TODO item. I'm a bit
more cautious about using it in lieu of existing infra for other
purposes.



Yes. I think it's important we give room to the experiment, and it is my 
belief that while anything cannot be turned or forced into a TODO item, 
we will increase our activity precisely by turning more things into 
tasks.


Cheers,

Charles.




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Working with RedMine

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Er Florian,

So you suggest we do not experiment with anything?

Best,

Charles.

On 18 septembre 2014 11:51:44 CEST, Florian Effenberger 
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
Hi,

just briefly on two topics, as I'm rather swamped these days:

I'm glad the projects use Redmine and find it useful, that's great!
What 
we should take care of is that everything that is product related
should 
_not_ go into Redmine. For the design team, without knowing the
concrete 
workflow, as an example: Iterations of designs can be handled in 
Redmine, but the issue to change icons in LibO should be in Bugzilla
then.

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2014-09-17 at 16:47:

 The suggestion for the experiment is to stop using the public
marketing
 list completely for one month, and to rely on the Issue tracker of
 RedMine meanwhile. The main idea here is to move our activities
entirely

I personally strongly suggest no _not_ close the mailing list or 
temporarily avoid using it. At least some pointers on the mailing lists

are desired.

 new wiki. I'm not suggesting that we open twenty new wiki pages on
 RedMine tomorrow, but that we use it for a month if we need it.

I propose to, for wiki pages, stick with Mediawiki, so we have one tool

for the task. :)

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Working with RedMine

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Hi,

On 18 septembre 2014 12:49:50 CEST, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
Florian Effenberger wrote on 18-09-14 12:13:

 So you suggest we do not experiment with anything?
 
 it's just my personal opinion - if each project hosts their
discussion
 somewhere else, chaos will break free. Plus, the entry barrier for
 Redmine is much higher than for a mailing list, which makes me fear
we
 would exclude people if we exclusively focus on that.

I've only read Charles initial mail (well and this short one)
What I thought of:

RedMine is great. Project focussed working. OK
Furthermore: I think additionally a mailing list is important. Just
that
people can ask questions. Or to send some not one x/y/z..
Also, if just all great ideas are added (sometimes it may look like
dumping) at Redmine, wouldn't that incline the risk of causing a mess.
Could be coordinated via mail ;/

Yes indeed.


Charles: you think of doing all that via the discuss-list ??

Well the point is to ensure that the discussions remain on the discuss list abd 
the work goes on Redmine. To answer Florian: I think today we have metrics 
showing we do not gain any contributors through the marketing mailing list but 
spend lots of energy maintaining it. I suggest we refrain from posting on it 
for 1 month and see how we feel about it...


Best,

Charles.

Cheers,
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[libreoffice-marketing] Working with RedMine

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello,

As discussed during the Marketing Strategy Workshop, we would like to 
draw on the Design team experience and move most of (many at least) of 
our activities on RedMine (1). We already have a space there (2), mostly 
populated by the issue tracker. Remember, since several months, RedMine 
handles every issue that is not related to the LibreOffice code so teams 
like marketing, design, website, etc. already work there.


** Experiment goals:
To improve efficiency for the marketing team, connect easily with other 
teams, have a more practical set of tools. The Design Team has now fully 
transitioned to RedMine, including its wiki, and is seeing a real 
productivity boost (3) .


** Rationale and experiment specifics

1. Public Marketing List ShutDown
The marketing list carries little of our current workflow; in fact, most 
of it has gone to the RedMine issue tracker already. On top of this, the 
marketing list is not read by most of the people concerned by marketing 
activities, namely the native-lang projects worldwide. PR coordination 
happens on the private list and to a lesser extent on IRC for meetings. 
The marketing list, just like any list, requires administration work, 
i.e. moderation. There's a lot of spam arriving, usually in waves, and 
it requires the approval or refusal of incoming mails (spam, 
unsubscribed posters, etc.)


The suggestion for the experiment is to stop using the public marketing 
list completely for one month, and to rely on the Issue tracker of 
RedMine meanwhile. The main idea here is to move our activities entirely 
to a task-based workflow for the team. PR announcements coordination can 
continue to be handled via the private list and IRC for meetings (note 
that RedMine can have private spaces and subprojects); anything else, 
such as discussions, would happen on the discuss list and for 
cross-project awareness on the project mailing list.


RedMine has the ability to embed forums, that look a lot like issue 
tracker posts. It is an option worth considering in the future, but at 
the moment I suggest we do without it.



2. New Wiki

I am personally not entirely sold on this one, but we are in a situation 
where the marketing wiki pages are quite numerous, yet completely 
chaotic, and often outdated. We can think about cleaning these wiki 
pages, but given their amount we may consider to start a fresh with a 
new wiki. I'm not suggesting that we open twenty new wiki pages on 
RedMine tomorrow, but that we use it for a month if we need it.



** Expected results:

- increased efficiency
- less maintenance (for us, not necessarily for the infra team ;-)  )
- increased clarity in terms of resources, contacts, etc.
- task-based workflow (partially achieved already)


I'll leave everyone until the end of the week (2 days roughly) to think 
about it and comment here.


Thanks,

Charles.
(1)  https://redmine.documentfoundation.org
(2)  https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/projects/marketing
(3)  https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/projects/design


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[libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Strategy Workshop session in Bern: the proceedings

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello,

This is my notepad for our marketing strategy workshop session.
Slides are included in it. Feel free to comment, I will cover the
RedMine topic in just a few days.
http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2014/09/14/strategy-workshop/

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Weekly News #5 waiting for reviews

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I am outside today,
I will comment later or tomorrow. Thanks for the LOWN!

Best,

Charles.

On 13 septembre 2014 11:48:28 CEST, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com 
wrote:
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hi,
 Le 13/09/2014 10:07, Norbert Thiebaud a écrit :

 [...]


 Yet 7 new contributors to the LibreOffice project! Welcome to
them!
 -
 We welcomed 7 new contributors to the LibreOffice project:

 And I would say ...7 new contributors to the development team, there
are
 new contributors to the project not cited here.

True.. point taken :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Supporters all over the world

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Yes indeed. It would be useful to see how these volunteers correlate with the 
native lang teams...

Thanks Regina,

Charles.

On 12 septembre 2014 08:31:28 CEST, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
Regina Henschel wrote on 10-09-14 19:09:
 I have looked, from where the supports on http://ask.libreoffice.org
 come. Not all of them have set the state flag, but from the one
hundred
 with the most karma I have got
 
 Australia
 ... (lots of names)
 United States
 
 Isn't that fantastic?

Great, fantastic. Thanks for listing and sharing,

Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Magazine 13 - call for papers

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Hello Eliane,

 I shall tweet that :-)

Best,

Charles.

On 9 septembre 2014 17:15:09 CEST, Eliane Domingos de Sousa 
elianedomin...@libreoffice.org wrote:
Hello Community,

The next LibreOffice e-magazine edition will be published late October 
2014, The editors have widen the scope of languages of the and are now 
accepting papers in Portuguese, Spanish and English.. If you want to 
write for the magazine about LibreOffice or Open Source Software 
(tutorials, migration cases, achievements and tips), please submit your

paper until October 6 to reda...@libreoffice.org.

Your paper must be in the Open Document Format and it must contain your

picture and a small resumé. We will not accept any other format.

If you want to advertise an OSS event in our e-magazine, please send a 
PNG or JPG file with 100DPI minimum resolution before October 6 to 
revi...@libreoffice.org. Ask us for advertisement dimensions. OSS
events 
advertisements are free of charge and are at editors discretion to 
publish it or not.

LibreOffice magazine past and present editions are availabe at 
http://pt-br.libreoffice.org/projetos/revista/

Blog: 
http://blog.pt-br.libreoffice.org/2014/09/09/libreoffice-magazine-13-call-for-papers/

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: LibreOffice Weekly News #4 released

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello William, Sophie,


Le 08.09.2014 13:49, Sophie a écrit :

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Hi William,
Le 08/09/2014 13:40, William Gathoye a écrit :

Hi *,

I've just finished writing the fourth LOWN edition. [1]

Comments are, as always, welcome.

As I wrote in the introduction, I still need to catch up +700
mails (most are technical dev oriented) and summarize the
slides/videos from the LibreOffice conference for LOWN 5.

If you get involved at the conference and had a talk there, please
provide your slides on your blog (if you have any) or any social
network. I'm following the most influential on each social
networks, if you published your slides there, I will find them.
;-)


They are currently collected on the conference list, and will be
uploaded asap on the conference site, the users track is already
available. Same for the videos.


As a reminder, if you have suggestions of topics non mentioned in
the mailing lists, do not hesitate to put a note in the next issue
[2].


Some things on top of my mind:
- - MC elections
- - certification
- - Android tender
- - infra migration


LOWN basically consists in writing a summary which could be
reused: * for the annual report The Document Foundation has to
provide to German authorities,


the pad will be mostly used for that, so don't hesitate to add your
own infos on it, collecting all in one place is easier for the report
writers.


Yes indeed, which prompts me to note that, while I'm thankful for your 
work on LOWN, it does not look at all like anything collaborative.
Here are some additional suggestions to make this a community effort and 
to improve the content.


+ turn LOWN into a LOMM = montly basis
+ have one set day when the newsletter edition is being started, 
announce it to the marketing list, the projects list, the native-lang 
projects

+ set deadlines to report news and content
+ everything should be done collaboratively on the pad or on the wiki.



* by the marketing team; * and also by IT news like NextInpact,
Phoronix, etc if they want to cover LibreOffice development.


The newsletter is of primary internal importance, to keep everyone 
informed. But it can be used for other purposes, such as to feed some 
contextual content to journalists (journalists don't really care about 
newsletter, you must bring some specific message to them).


Thank you again for your work,

Charles.



Kind regards
Sophie
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Animation, spanish version

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Eliane,

Le Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:52:43 -0400,
Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com a écrit :

 On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Daniel A. Rodriguez
 daniel.armando.rodrig...@gmail.com wrote:
  It only remains to say that reproduce and share this work. :-)
 
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mALTF33gpUI
 
 Looks great!
 
 Eliane: You mentioned in July that there was work being done on a
 version of the animation in English. Do you know when that work will
 be completed? If there's anything I can do to help, please let me
 know.

I concur with Robinson and add to this that we need more videos and
should pay for this. The board has been informed that we should have a
budget for this...

Best,

Charles.

 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Libreoffice marketing advice

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Dear Wang Julin,

Thank you for this message. You can contribute directly to the Chinese 
LibreOffice team here:

http://zh.libreoffice.org

Cheers,

Charles.


Le 14.08.2014 15:44, wangjunli a écrit :

Libreoffice management members:
 hello!
I am a Libreoffice loyal users, I come from China. I very want to join
to promote Libreoffice groups, make a little contribution to open
source software.
In the email attachment is my some simple Libreoffice marketing plan
or proposal. Attachments are each in both Chinese and English, because
my English is not good, so the description of the scheme in Chinese,
please attachment for reference! Thank you very much!
我是一名Libreoffice的忠实用户，我来自中国。我非常想加入到推广Libreoffice 的团体中来，为开源软件做出一点点贡献。
邮件中的附件是我简单的一些Libreoffice市场推广方案或者说是建议。附件有中 英文各一份，由于我的英语水平不好，所以方案的描述请以中 
文附件为参考！谢谢！


Libreoffice greater China marketing proposal

For Libreoffice cover density and user utilization in China relative
to other office software (such as ms office, kingsoft WPS office,
etc.) or lower.

Why Libreoffice into such a market situation in China? Mainly used in
the user, technical support and Libreoffice caused by its own
problems, and so on! There are many enterprises in China to pick the
Microsoft office for money or domestic WPS office office software,
such as little to pick the Libreoffice open source as its corporate
office software. The problem was the main reason is that Microsoft
office and WPS office of ease of use for the Chinese obviously higher
than that of Libreoffice ease of use. Followed by the use of software
education problems, almost more than 90% of people in China begin to
contact the computer operating system is facing the Windows office
software of Microsoft office. And now, right now, the chance of
Libreoffice is coming!

Because China is now very support domestic Linux system, and
openoffice (Libreoffice) and Libreoffice has been renowned under Linux
operating system software for office use, so now can Libreoffice took
advantage of the Chinese policy of spring breeze, the Linux operating
system with China manufacturers and the Chinese government and some
famous education institutions to cooperate, in order to expand market
coverage in China. Cooperation target roughly as follows:

With Linux manufacturers cooperation purpose: mainly to the OEM
manufacturers become Libreoffice. Is now in China, of course, Linux
system manufacturers become Libreoffice OEM temporarily is a
relatively easy thing, but now our Libreoffice must attack quickly,
otherwise the day in the future we will be very sad, because kingsoft
WPS office office software company's products for Linux is now fully
open, WPS office for ease of use and the use of the user habit of
Linux is very suitable for Chinese users. So we must grasp firmly
binding will Libreoffice this product in the Chinese domestic Linux
system, only in this way in the future Libreoffice would have a place!

The cooperation with the Chinese government objective: cooperate with
the government's aim is to make the government on to the next
generation of user education offer certain support, at least don't let
it to suppress Libreoffice.

Cooperation with education institutions purpose: let the education
institutions in the piece of education office software to replace
other office software Libreoffice (of course, we have to give the
somebody else to write good textbooks). So that both can have the
effect of advertising have can reach users use the education on the
problem.

Second:

I Libreoffice this product also should strengthen the improvement in
the Chinese market, so that it has more market penetration and users
to have the desire. In strengthening and improvement as follows;

1, open to users' cloud 'side, the user's file can be used
cooperatively in the network environment. (I think in this respect,
can look for Internet company baidu cooperation, think they have very
large resources in collaborative)

2, in the website to open official Libreoffice tutorial, let more
people to learn and use Libreoffice, let users will use Libreoffice
proficient in Libreoffice.

3, Libreoffice can more quick in appearance and function of
strengthening, used to make it more easier to use!

Finally, I hope that Libreoffice management must be on the use of
Libreoffice users increased technical education.

The above is my simple marketing plan, I have more detailed more
perfect marketing advice. If interested can contact me through the
contact information.


建议联系方式

手机：18270739552

E-mail：dffqsjs...@163.com mailto:dffqsjs...@163.com

姓名：王钧礼（男）

Advice contact

Phone: +8618270739552

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Name: Wang Junli (male)

Libreoffice大中华区营销建议书

对于Libreoffice在中国的覆盖密度和用户使用率相对其他办公软件（例如：ms office 、金山wps 
office等）而言还是比较低的。


为什么Libreoffice在中国会成这样一个市场局面呢？主要是用户的 使用习惯，技
术支持和Libreoffice自身的一些问题等等所造成的！在中国有许许多多的企业选 着要钱的微软office或国产的wps
office等这些办公软件，却很少选 着开源的 Libreoffice作为其企业的办公软件。这个问题的主要原因是因为微软office和wps
office的易用性对于中国人来说明 显高于Libreoffice的易用性。其次是软件的使

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] openSUSE.Asia summit call for Libreoffice hackers :-)

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Yifan,

Cool! I am forwarding this to other parts of the project to ensure everybody 
gets the message :-)

Best,

Charles.

On 13 août 2014 16:12:30 CEST, Yifan Jiang yifanj2...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi Libreoffice hackers!

As a contributor from both Libreoffice and openSUSE, I am spreading a
great
news from openSUSE :-) The first openSUSE.Asia Summit is scheduled on
October 18th and 19th, 2014, in Beijing. [1]

It is just the right time to spread Libreoffice / Document Foundation
to
the openSUSE community in Asia!

The summit is currently calling for papers and participants! We are
warmly
looking forward to your appearance and speaks! Please allow me to
remind
the Call for Paper and Travel Support application is nearly there (at
the
end of this week).

For impatient hands:

Registration and paper proposal submission:
https://events.opensuse.org/

Travel support application:
https://connect.opensuse.org/travel-support/events

Travel support application guide:
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Travel_Support_Program

Any more details could be found in the summit site:
http://summit.opensuse.org/

Finally, thanks for noticing, and you could contact me directly for
more
details or questions :-) Moreover, official channels in the summit site
will
also help!

[1] openSUSE.Asia Summit 2014 is the first openSUSE Summit in Asia,
which
aims to promote openSUSE and other free and open source software in the
region (especially in colleges). openSUSE.Asia Summit is a
non-commercial
 conference. In the conference, we are going to launch a series of free
and
 open source software lectures, discussions and workshops, so that more
Asian users will have a chance to understand the concepts, use the
software
and join the community. Meanwhile, the summit also provides a free
platform
for Asian users to communicate with each other face to face.
Participants
  can take this opportunity to learn about the related technologies and
share
their experiences.

Yours sincerely,
Yifan

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in the biggest journal in Brazil

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Very impressive! Who's the lady in the ad?
I didn't know we had enrolled her ;-)

Best,

Charles. 

On 30 juillet 2014 20:04:34 CEST, Eliane Domingos de Sousa 
elianedomin...@libreoffice.org wrote:
Hello Community,

The announcement about LIBO 4.3 in the biggest journal in Brazil. It's
a 
first time that we are in this journal, I just can't believe that! I'm 
surprised

I know, the content is in Portuguese, but I just would like to share 
this with you.
http://oglobo.globo.com/sociedade/tecnologia/lancada-versao-43-do-libreoffice-13430185

Just sharing sharing sharing, I'm very very very happy. :)

Best,

-- 
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Membro do Conselho Diretor da TDF
Brazilian LibreOffice Community
TDF Member of the Board of Directors
Experimente o sistema de perguntas e respostas da Comunidade
LibreOffice Brasil:http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br/questions/
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Animation about LibreOffice

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Eliane,

This is really good! We must involve them for future animations!

Best,

Charles.

Le 29.07.2014 17:18, Eliane Domingos de Sousa a écrit :

Dear Community,

As I informed before by e-mail, I made a partnership with a company in
Brazil/Rio de Janeiro that works with animation, video, site and etc.
This company prepared an animation about LibreOffice in Portuguese and
now they are preparing the version in English. :)

I'm very happy with this animation, because it was produced only with
free softwares. I'm very proud.

 * Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/10207
 * Youtube: http://youtu.be/rYoLBPAGLbo?list=UUzF1Cv6wWTLsIwrux7dvnRw

Best,

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TDF Member of the Board of Directors
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Launch of Tamil LibO

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Elanjelian,

We do not issue press releases for the creation of LibreOffice teams. However 
the 4.3 will have been released on the 28th so surely this can be a good 
opportunity to set the event as the 4.3 launch?

Best,

Charles

On 19 juillet 2014 01:44:45 CEST, Elanjelian Venugopal tamil...@gmail.com 
wrote:
Hi,

We plan to hold a launch party and press meet for Tamil in Kuala Lumpur
and
Chennai on the 30th. May I know how I may get hold of the official
press
release for us to translate?

Best regards,
Elanjelian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Lao Open Source Training on LibreOffice

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Hello Anousak,

Congrats! It is good to see you as active as ever since the old days of 
OpenOffice! Do you have a pointer we could share publicly?

Best,

Charles.

On 18 juillet 2014 12:03:13 CEST, Anousak Souphavanh anou...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi LibreOfficers,
I am happy to share some news from Laos. From 14 to 30 of July 2014, we
are
conducting the first ever Open Source training in public schools for
both
students and teachers titled 'Free Open Source Software adoption in
secondary schools' namely 10 major high schools in the capital of Laos.
We
have adopted LibreOffice as major office application: Write, Calc,
Impress,
and Math. We concentrate on 10% technical and the rest is of practical.

The Ministry of Post and Telecommunications' Department of Planning and
Cooperation received funding from ASEAN ICT and we are the main partner
for
the training.

I am very grateful to people who are very supportive and very kind for
the
good cause here in Laos and we hope to further our Open Source
developments
for the great benefit of the people and society.

As you might already know, I am the Lao Open Source evangelist and have
been working and pushing Lao open source for nearly 15 years now.
We are very happy to get thus far and the work is not stopping here,
there
is no limit to what we can do.

Attached are photos of the training.

Cheers and long live the Open Source,

Anousak Souphavanh
Lao Open Source

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Thanks, just tweeted it!

Best,

Charles.

On 18 juillet 2014 06:59:43 CEST, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com 
wrote:
Some news links in English from today's coverage

http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/thiruvananthapuram/Software-Migration-ICFOSS-Hails-State-Govt/2014/07/18/article2335680.ece
http://freepressjournal.in/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform/
http://www.mathrubhumi.com/english/news/kerala/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform-149244.html
http://www.newswala.com/India-National-News/Kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform-for-its-business-68287.html
http://www.bgr.in/news/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform/


On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Anivar Aravind
anivar.arav...@gmail.com
wrote:




 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Dear Nivar,


 Hi I am anivar


 Thanks a lot, great news; do you happen to have a pointer about
these
 news in English?


 English Press is not carried the news yet. Hope some of them will
carry it
 soon. and people worked on this is planning a detail post on 
challenges,
 issues faced and outcomes . I hope i can share the link within next
few
 days .

 ~ regards
 Anivar





 Best,

 Charles.

 Le 17.07.2014 10:28, Anivar Aravind a écrit :

  The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of
July 17,
 2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a
Free
 Software platform using Libreoffice .  Hon. Speaker announced  in
 Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this
undertaking
 unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the
Niyamasabha is
 done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt

 The migration process is implimented with the support of  Zyxware
 Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to
promote
 foss  and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS
developer
 community working on Indian Language support and localizations

 See below poster .

 https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557

 Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular
language
 press
 and it is available here

 http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716
 http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/

 The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent
order
 announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments,
 institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms,
in the
 opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP. 
[5]

 International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has
 brought
 out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6]

 Related Links

 [1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/
 [2] http://www.zyxware.com/
 [3] http://icfoss.in
 [4] http://smc.org.in
 [5] http://icfoss.in/G.O.109.pdf
 [6] http://icfoss.org/FS-Migration-Draft-Handbook.pdf


 ~ regards

 Anivar Aravind
 Secretary
 Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
 http://smc.org.in




 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Dear Nivar,

 Thanks a lot, great news; do you happen to have a pointer about
these
 news in English?

 Best,

 Charles.

 Le 17.07.2014 10:28, Anivar Aravind a écrit :

  The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of
July 17,
 2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a
Free
 Software platform using Libreoffice .  Hon. Speaker announced  in
 Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this
undertaking
 unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the
Niyamasabha is
 done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt

 The migration process is implimented with the support of  Zyxware
 Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to
promote
 foss  and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS
developer
 community working on Indian Language support and localizations

 See below poster .

 https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557

 Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular
language
 press
 and it is available here

 http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716
 http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/

 The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent
order
 announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments,
 institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms,
in the
 opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP. 
[5]

 International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has
 brought
 out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6]

 Related Links

 [1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/
 [2] http://www.zyxware.com/
 [3] http://icfoss.in
 [4] http://smc.org.in
 [5] http://icfoss.in/G.O.109.pdf
 [6] http://icfoss.org/FS-Migration-Draft-Handbook.pdf


 ~ regards

 Anivar Aravind
 Secretary
 Swathanthra Malayalam

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Dear Nivar,

Thanks a lot, great news; do you happen to have a pointer about these 
news in English?


Best,

Charles.

Le 17.07.2014 10:28, Anivar Aravind a écrit :
The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July 
17,
2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a 
Free

Software platform using Libreoffice .  Hon. Speaker announced  in
Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this undertaking
unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the Niyamasabha 
is

done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt

The migration process is implimented with the support of  Zyxware
Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to promote
foss  and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS developer
community working on Indian Language support and localizations

See below poster .

https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557

Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular language 
press

and it is available here

http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716
http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/

The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent order
announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments,
institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms, in 
the

opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP.  [5]

International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has 
brought

out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6]

Related Links

[1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/
[2] http://www.zyxware.com/
[3] http://icfoss.in
[4] http://smc.org.in
[5] http://icfoss.in/G.O.109.pdf
[6] http://icfoss.org/FS-Migration-Draft-Handbook.pdf


~ regards

Anivar Aravind
Secretary
Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
http://smc.org.in


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Indeed we lack a real one and must somehow integrate the existing OOo 
deployments that were migrated over to LibreOffice ( case in point: french gov, 
city of Munich, city of Leipzig...)

Best,

Charles.

On 17 juillet 2014 13:54:54 CEST, Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

Is there a wiki page list of all of these businesses or governments
that 
have switched over to LO and/or ODF?  If so, I would like to know where

it is so I could use it in my local marketing as proof that LO and
ODF 
is not a fad or some odd ball package that only a small group uses.
 
Showing whole States and/or Countries switching over, plus big 
businesses doing the same, really can make local marketing helpful.

On 07/17/2014 04:37 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Dear Nivar,

 Thanks a lot, great news; do you happen to have a pointer about these

 news in English?

 Best,

 Charles.

 Le 17.07.2014 10:28, Anivar Aravind a écrit :
 The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July
17,
 2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a
Free
 Software platform using Libreoffice .  Hon. Speaker announced in
 Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this
undertaking
 unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the
Niyamasabha is
 done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt

 The migration process is implimented with the support of Zyxware
 Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to
promote
 foss  and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS developer
 community working on Indian Language support and localizations

 See below poster .

 https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557

 Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular
language 
 press
 and it is available here

 http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716
 http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/

 The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent
order
 announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments,
 institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms, in
the
 opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP. 
[5]

 International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has 
 brought
 out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6]

 Related Links

 [1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/
 [2] http://www.zyxware.com/
 [3] http://icfoss.in
 [4] http://smc.org.in
 [5] http://icfoss.in/G.O.109.pdf
 [6] http://icfoss.org/FS-Migration-Draft-Handbook.pdf


 ~ regards

 Anivar Aravind
 Secretary
 Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
 http://smc.org.in



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

[Charles-H. Schulz]

I forgot to add the most important part: you are welcome to start this page of 
course :-)

Best,

Charles.

On 17 juillet 2014 13:54:54 CEST, Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

Is there a wiki page list of all of these businesses or governments
that 
have switched over to LO and/or ODF?  If so, I would like to know where

it is so I could use it in my local marketing as proof that LO and
ODF 
is not a fad or some odd ball package that only a small group uses.
 
Showing whole States and/or Countries switching over, plus big 
businesses doing the same, really can make local marketing helpful.

On 07/17/2014 04:37 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Dear Nivar,

 Thanks a lot, great news; do you happen to have a pointer about these

 news in English?

 Best,

 Charles.

 Le 17.07.2014 10:28, Anivar Aravind a écrit :
 The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July
17,
 2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a
Free
 Software platform using Libreoffice .  Hon. Speaker announced in
 Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this
undertaking
 unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the
Niyamasabha is
 done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt

 The migration process is implimented with the support of Zyxware
 Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to
promote
 foss  and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS developer
 community working on Indian Language support and localizations

 See below poster .

 https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557

 Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular
language 
 press
 and it is available here

 http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716
 http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/

 The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent
order
 announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments,
 institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms, in
the
 opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP. 
[5]

 International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has 
 brought
 out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6]

 Related Links

 [1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/
 [2] http://www.zyxware.com/
 [3] http://icfoss.in
 [4] http://smc.org.in
 [5] http://icfoss.in/G.O.109.pdf
 [6] http://icfoss.org/FS-Migration-Draft-Handbook.pdf


 ~ regards

 Anivar Aravind
 Secretary
 Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
 http://smc.org.in



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Easyhacks and carrots

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Zeki,

Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 17:07:20 +0300,
Zeki Bildirici zeki.ozguryazi...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Hi,
 
 Do we have a motivation strategy to for easy hack solvers?
 
 Sending merchandise gifts(http://libreoffice.spreadshirt.dk/) is a
 good way to motivate the community.
 
 Easy hacks have been already sorted by skills and
 diffuculties(https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks#Lists_of_Easy_Hacks),
 what about if we set a point system? Giving points to these hacks by
 diffuculty and merchandise gifts can be demanded by earned points?
 Also a laptop, a tablet can be put on top to increase the motivation.
 
 Easyhacks especially some papercuts are cruical and having them fixed
 asap will increase the usability. Also this model can be applied to qa
 works.
 
 Not limited to point system, regular or unpredicted gifts to community
 members increases the commitment. We had experienced it in Pardus
 project and it worked very well.
 
 I think TDF can arrange budget for such project, which won't cost
 much.
 
 What do you think?


While it sounds great, we cannot legally do so (German law, sorry),
although we are considering alternative solutions for this kind of
issues..

Best,

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Magazine 11

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Thank you Eliane and the Br team for this work!

Charles.

On 25 juin 2014 06:05:19 CEST, Eliane Domingos de Sousa 
elianedomin...@libreoffice.org wrote:
Dear Community,

I'm happy to announce the LibreOffice Magazine 11 in Portuguese.

In page 27 we are promoting LibreOffice Conference. :)

The magazine is avaiable in PDF and ODG files.

PDF: 
http://pt-br.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/PT-BR_imagens/Magazine/LM-ED11.pdf

ODG: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LM-ED11.odg

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Weekly News #2 released

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Hello William,

Thanks a lot! Let's have our workflow on the wiki from the beginning next time. 
People will know where to contribute ;-) .

Cheers,

Charles.

On 22 juin 2014 00:36:59 CEST, William Gathoye will...@gathoye.be wrote:
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Hi *,


I've just finished writing the second LOWN edition. It is available
here [1], still as a pdf version for now.

You might still expect some mimetype errors, since Github doesn't
handle pdf quite well. As a workaround, when you are on the wiki page,
please make a right click, click on Save the link as... and open the
pdf file with your favourite pdf client.

Please do not advertise this LOWN#2 version yet. I'm still open to any
comment or correction you would have.

The final version is for tomorrow, and will be provided in a MediaWiki
version at that time. I'm using Pandoc for the LaTeX - MediaWiki
syntax conversion, but compiling its dependencies is taking more time
than expected, sorry for the delay.


Regards,


[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/2


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice weekly newsletter

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Le Fri, 20 Jun 2014 00:14:10 +0200,
William Gathoye will...@gathoye.be a écrit :

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 On 06/18/2014 03:20 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 
  Yes indeed. I'm just wondering whether we could tweak this a bit
  with successive posts and links on separate topics. Tagging and
  separate topics might just fit within such a platform.
 
 Let develop this feature in the near future, I mean as soon the new
 planet has been released ;-)
 
 
 I'm gonna put LOWN on the wiki on the evening and will create a new
 page in the header (according to sophi, no need to ask other teams,
 excepted if it is related to developers).
 
 To keep a hierarchy/organization, the page will be subclassed like
 this, : LOWN\1
 LOWN\2
 LOWN\3
 ...

OK.
Make sure projects@ and this list here know about the URL so that
people can add content.


 
  We keep this easy I think; Wordpress if we use wordpress,
  another backend if we use another.
 Ok I see your Wordpress instance does support image inline [1].
 Illustration images can be inserted easily then.
 
  Note that I'm unsure whether Wordpress is the
  best solution here. I don't have something specific in mind, so
  feel free to suggest something else.
 I've no other solution in mind, so let's go for the wordpress.
 
  hold on there, I only trust a wordpress post once I've taken a
  look at the post about to be published and how it fits visually
  within the page, so no cron job for me :-)
 Ok let's do (you :P or me if I've credentials) this step manually,
 then ;-)
 
  - Use a cron to extract the text version from the wiki and post it
  on the mailing list.
  
  yes the cron job here would indeed be very useful.
 
 I'll execute the cron on Sunday evening, in that way contributors can
 review the subjects if needed, and correct my poor English ;-)
 
 The WordPress publication should be made on Sunday too, to keep
 consistency.

Yes. And note that even that publication can be scheduled from within
WP.

Best,

Charles.

 
 Regards,
 
 
 [1]
 http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2014/03/13/libreoffice-4-2-2-fresh-is-ready-for-download/
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Possible Event: Open World Forum, Paris, Oct. 30th - Nov. 1st 2014

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Yes indeed. Sophie did you get the contacts with the organizers already
or should we activate that?

Thanks,

Charles.

Le Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:04:54 -0500,
Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Hi all,
 
 This may be of interest to us, especially regarding the ways in which
 LibreOffice can provide users with greater Security/Privacy/ and
 Trust.
 
 Cheers,
 --R
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Stefane Fermigier s...@fermigier.com
 Date: Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 5:14 AM
 Subject: [Osdc-list] Call for papers, Open World Forum, Paris, Oct.
 30th - Nov. 1st 2014
 To: osdc-l...@redhat.com
 
 
 Hi,
 
 there is an open CFP for the Open World Forum, a conference that I’ve
 been helping organise over the last 6 years:
 
 For this 7th edition the program is build around the guidline “Take
 Back Control” and will show you how to take back control of your
 digital world, including IT/IS and (personal) data.
 
 Classic and essential subjects as Cloud computing, Data, Internet of
 Things, Dev, etc. will be treated from a user's needs' point of view.
 We will also put a strong emphasis on trending topics : Security,
 Privacy, Trust and Mobility.
 
 If you wish to submit a proposal about one of these topics and many
 more, please do so on the page dedicated to the Call for Paper.”
 
 More info:
 
 http://www.openworldforum.paris/en/cfp/
 
 About the OWF:
 
 The Open World Forum is the first European summit to gather political
 representatives, decision-makers and experts to debate the
 technological, economic and social impacts of Free and Open-Source
 technologies on the market. It also welcomes the general public, with
 a specific cycle of conferences and demonstrations to make them aware
 of what is at stake in the digital open world.
 
 The forum was first held in 2008 and is now organized annually in
 Paris, France, with more than 200 speakers coming from 24 countries,
 and a global audience that was 2200-people strong in 2013. The Open
 World Forum is held in partnership with all the major international
 communities in Free Software and with the key players in the digital
 economy. The Open World Forum is back for its seventh edition. It will
 occur on October 30th, 31th and November 1st, 2014, in the same place,
 Paris Beffroi (Subway station Mairie de Montrouge) and will again be
 organized by Systematic Paris-Region. More than 3,000 attendees are
 expected for this Edition, with a program reflecting the current
 digital issues everyone's facing. #OWF14 is an international event.
 
 Regards,
 
   S.
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Possible Event: Open World Forum, Paris, Oct. 30th - Nov. 1st 2014

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Sorry, forget my last message :-)

Best,

Charles.

Le Thu, 19 Jun 2014 17:10:41 +0200,
Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Hi Robinson,
 Le 19/06/2014 17:04, Robinson Tryon a écrit :
  Hi all,
  
  This may be of interest to us, especially regarding the ways in
  which LibreOffice can provide users with greater Security/Privacy/
  and Trust.
 
 I'm part of it and we will have a booth and probably some talks or a
 track on Community.
 
 Cheers
 Sophie
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice weekly newsletter

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Hello William,

Sorry for not having come back to you sooner. My comments inline...

Le 18.06.2014 13:47, William Gathoye a écrit :

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On 06/18/2014 01:16 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:

FWIW, there is:

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/latex2wp/

which might be quite helpful for this task.


Thanks for the hint; but we still need to define if we will use a blog
or the Wiki.


I will open an issue on RedMine soon but let's discuss here what it is 
that we want in terms of needs.

What I see (feel free to add to it, of course!):

* one actual newsletter sent to specific lists on the projects 
(projects@ marketing@ + dev@): this is the standard, text only 
newsletter.
* another one -same content, different looks- that's published for the 
outside world to see. No one will look for it on the wiki so we need a 
blog platform, a webpage on the site, or something visually pleasing and 
easily searchable and retrievable, like www.libreoffice.org/newsletter 
or somesuch.
* one platform that's in the form of lxer; somewhat more technical than 
the newsletter and slightly more focused. To me this last need is 
perhaps more important than the two others as it encompasses them, but 
it is also the more demanding in terms of resources and skills. The 
audience is really the community of LibreOffice and more specifically 
people who contribute to the project. Meaning, people who will find the 
content to be either downright informative (I just didn't know that but 
now it makes sense) or at least providing helpful background (beta 1 
comes in two weeks, where do we stand with regard to our localization 
project?)







I don't like the Wordpress idea: more difficult to make LOWN a
community project, and to see the commits made to the article.
AFAIK LibreOffice infrastructure doesn't have a Wordpress instance.

I found a latex to wiki converter: pandoc. It is actually a swiss-army
knife according to the description[1].



Once I've written my comments above I realize that you focused more on 
the content production. :-)
I believe we should make it easy for people to contribute content, 
therefore latex, vim, emacs (I use emacs) are effective tools but keep 
in mind only a short portion of us here use them.


My guess would be to use a dedicated space on the wiki for content 
production. It is collaborative enough and can be reused in different 
formats (webpage, newsletter, feeds, etc.)


What do you think?

Best,

Charles.




[1] http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice weekly newsletter

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Le 18.06.2014 14:22, William Gathoye a écrit :

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On 06/18/2014 02:05 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

My guess would be to use a dedicated space on the wiki for
content production. It is collaborative enough and can be reused
in different formats (webpage, newsletter, feeds, etc.)

Ok for the wiki. Regarding the reference extension we talked about[1].
It is available with the Cite extension which is ALREADY installed
on our Wiki instance[2]. ;-) Thanks Sophi for the hint.

On my side, I would still be able to use LaTeX since I've found an
extension to convert LaTeX to MediaWiki syntax: pandoc[3] or another I
still need to test which consists of using Vim directly from the Wiki
[4];-)


There's got to be the same for emacs to mediawiki somewhere. This being 
said, the sad part is that we do have an old OOo extension converting 
ODF documents to mediawiki, but it has not been maintained and is thus 
quite buggy.





Regarding the 3 different interfaces, I'm not an expert regarding CMS.
(Didn't know what lxer was about, now I know ;-) )
But Pandoc could still come in handy this time, use whatever CMS you
want and we will still be able to convert the syntax.
Let's reuse the existent, no need to create a WordPress instance if
the TDF hasn't one already; is Plone not able to handle such a use 
case?

Or maybe, we could reuse the TDF blog [5]?


Well the TDF blog does use Wordpress, the website uses SilverStripe, the 
extensions site uses Plone, and we may end up with an OpenSuse like 
system for the planet, which, incidently might just be what we're 
looking for at least for the lxer style platform 
(https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/400)


This being said, there could be other options but we have to at least 
list our needs first.


Cheers,

Charles.




[1]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php#.3Creferences_.2F.3E
[2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:Version
[3] http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/
[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_editor_support#Using_Vim_or_another_console_editor
[5] http://blog.documentfoundation.org/


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice weekly newsletter

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Le 18.06.2014 15:10, William Gathoye a écrit :

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On 06/18/2014 02:40 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Well the TDF blog does use Wordpress, the website uses
SilverStripe, the extensions site uses Plone, and we may end up
with an OpenSuse like system for the planet, which, incidently
might just be what we're looking for at least for the lxer style
platform (https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/400)

As I understand correctly, Planet is just a blog aggregator and cannot
be used as a host for LOWN.



Yes indeed. I'm just wondering whether we could tweak this a bit with 
successive posts and links on separate topics. Tagging and separate 
topics might just fit within such a platform.





This being said, there could be other options but we have to at
least list our needs first.


As you said, we have to provide 2 LOWN versions: a web one and a text
based for the MLs.

Let's thus define our needs by considering this situation:

- - We use the wiki where we will put our full web version: allowing
contribution from the whole community.


+1



My question: Where are we gonna upload the images/screenshots (if any
article needs illustration?): on Owncloud or on the wiki itself? This
could have issues for next steps.


We keep this easy I think; Wordpress if we use wordpress, another 
backend if we use another. Note that I'm unsure whether Wordpress is the 
best solution here. I don't have something specific in mind, so feel 
free to suggest something else.





- - Use a cron to export the web version each week from the wiki to the
TDF Wordpress.


hold on there, I only trust a wordpress post once I've taken a look at 
the post about to be published and how it fits visually within the page, 
so no cron job for me :-)





Do we need to use absolute links to the images (hosted on Owncloud or
the wiki itself?) or do we need to reupload the images on the
wordpress instance?


see my answer above.



Maybe I could have a look how to implement such a cron using PHP with
MediaWiki [1] and WordPress [2].

- - Use a cron to extract the text version from the wiki and post it on
the mailing list.


yes the cron job here would indeed be very useful.

Thanks!

Charles.






[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Main_page
[2] http://codex.wordpress.org/XML-RPC_Support

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice weekly newsletter

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello William,


Le 15.06.2014 18:50, William Gathoye a écrit :

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Hi Charles, *

First, thanks you all for your feedback, I'm really pleased ;-)

On 06/14/2014 09:43 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

- could you describe how you select content?

Actually, as I'm subscribed to all ML lists, I take the time to read
all what I find interesting on ML and Bugzilla.

The subjects I find interesting are:
- - the rather long threads on ML: having a brief summary of the 
current

situation of the discussion is always great;
- - the most recurrent subjects;
- - subject difficult to understand;
- - controversial topics;
- - first contributions;
- - progress on the hackfest organization.



nice, I like your approach!




- you can make it attractive if we give you a few logos, but surely
you need acccess to our wiki or some sort of official blog for
this... interested?

I want to keep the document as clean as possible, and will include
only additional content needed for the comprehension of the article
like X/Y graphics, modified feature in the GUI, etc.


So I'm thinking about putting this newsletter online, meaning, on a wiki 
or on a blog post; then ensuring it can be spread via mailing list (text 
only) so we'll have to work on the style itself, although most of it can 
be improved by the choice of the right online platform. A text only 
solution is not only useful but can co-exist; it's all about 
refactoring the message.




Publishing a PDF document via Twitter wasn't clearly the ideal format
to use. Making LOWN official would be nice, indeed.


I think we should do this, probably by adding a bit more content though. 
See below.




Sorry for having used LaTeX, I know from a marketing POV it isn't
great. But what I wanted was:
- - be allowed to use Vim: I don't like to use a GUI for writing: it is
distracting and hurting my eyes.
- - have an auto-citation system;
- - see the changes made between 2 commits.



What the hell are you doing contributing to Libreoffice then? :p



LaTeX and Github were answering these problem quite nicely. As Git is
used more effectively on text-based files, I needed a text based tool
like markdown or LaTeX. I dropped markdown since it has not citation
system. The remaining defacto solution was the LaTeX.



More seriously: use whatever tool you like, just don't think of it as a 
document but as a webpage. Better use txt + html. Again,, we want to 
have this online, not as a document or just as a text.





- again, thank you for all this I like the breadth and quality of
content. Let's make this a collaborative effort.

For sure. But the initial idea was to keep it oriented to developers
as much possible. Although I'm not against to broaden the audience. If
you have interesting content I'm not aware of, you can let me know and
I will gonna integrate it.

At first, I thought that
- - using pull requests on Github
- - and sending content via email for those who don't use Github
would be a great idea.

After a discussion on #libreoffice-fr, I realised that a Wiki page for
each LOWN is a great solution.


yup; perhaps even an official blog platform. What do you think?



I can still use Vim if I copy paste the changes to the wiki, the
commit are saved and we have block references with [1].


Are you confident in that extension?






- we can see how best to circulate this newsletter and make not
just a tool for the outside, but a means of information for the
entire project.



At this stage, we should improve it on two levels then imho:
-formatting/style/web page
- adding more non-developers topic: native-lang communities, 
localization work matters a lot and I expect this newsletter to be read 
by them as one of our major audiences.


Best,

Charles.




On 06/14/2014 02:21 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

For some reason, the given link will not lead me to any webpage
in my browser :-( Is anybody else experiencing problems to
make it work???


Maybe Will has deleted the pdf?


Nope, the link is till valid and always will be. It's a link to the
document hosted on my Github which is a pdf.

I tested on IE, FF and Chrom(e/ium) and the link is working fine. BUT
according to the tests I made with curl -IL, the pdf is detected as
binary -- can cause problem on some platforms. Cannot fix this, the
mimetype error comes from Github.


[1]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php#.3Creferences_.2F.3E

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[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice weekly newsletter

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello,

I've noticed William has started a LibreOffice weekly newsletter
William, thank you a lot for this!

A few points: 
- you can make it attractive if we give you a few logos, but surely you
  need acccess to our wiki or some sort of official blog for this...
  interested?
- again, thank you for all this I like the breadth and quality of
  content. Let's make this a collaborative effort.
- could you describe how you select content?
- we can see how best to circulate this newsletter and make not just a
  tool for the outside, but a means of information for the entire
  project.

Thank you for this work, looking forward to see more and I'm glad to be
of help!

Cheers,

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Re:[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice weekly newsletter

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Sorry! It is actually a pdf doc:

http://t.co/OlOQxglAl1

Best,

Charles.

On 14 juin 2014 10:51:10 CEST, pierre-yves.sa...@laposte.net wrote:
Hi

 Message du 14/06/14 09:40
 I've noticed William has started a LibreOffice weekly newsletter
 William, thank you a lot for this!

Thank you for the information, could you give a link to this
newsletter?

Regards
Pierre-Yves

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice weekly newsletter

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:44:14 +0300,
Kostis Mousafiris kvisi...@gnugr.org a écrit :

 Στις 14/06/2014 02:35 μμ, ο/η Robinson Tryon έγραψε:
  On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 5:06 AM, Charles-H. Schulz
  charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
  Sorry! It is actually a pdf doc:
 
  http://t.co/OlOQxglAl1
  Neat! Looks good, William!
 
  (Is anyone else having issues with their browser not recognizing the
  file as a PDF? After downloading, 'mimetype' tells me that the file
  is indeed of type 'application/pdf', but for some reason FF gets
  confused and suggests opening the file in a text editor..)
 
  Cheers,
  --R
 
 
 For some reason, the given link will not lead me to any webpage in my 
 browser :-(
 Is anybody else experiencing problems to make it work???

Maybe Will has deleted the pdf?

Best,

Charles.

 Thanks
 
 Constantine
 



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Linux.conf.au call for proposals

[Charles-H. Schulz]

That sounds nice Jean. Do you think you and other volunteers could have a booth 
there?

Best,

Charles.

On 12 juin 2014 04:36:51 CEST, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
In 2015 linux.conf.au will be held 12-16 January in Auckland, New
Zealand, at the University of Auckland Business School.
Call for Proposals opened 9 June 2014, closes 13 July 2014. I may put
in a proposal for either a talk or a miniconference about
documentation and other user assistance. I'm not sure if they will
have the traditional post-conference public open day with
opportunities for booths, but if so I could be involved in that...
along with whatever other Australians or New Zealanders are in this
group.

http://linux.conf.au/cfp

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Please tweet about Hybrid PDF + several Twitter account managers

[Charles-H. Schulz]

William,

Just read this email and I wanted to reply quickly. We have no community 
managers and we don't want to have any. If you wish to create content for the 
twitter feed or social networks first use the marketing pad and at some point 
you will be granted access to the twitter account.

Best,

Charles.

On 10 juin 2014 09:33:57 CEST, Paolo Pelloni pa...@paolopelloni.it wrote:
Hi William, 
I am currently maintaining the @Ask account. 
I read your message but pardon me but I am not sure I understood
exactly
what are you saying. 
Would you like me to tweet about something related to hybrid pdf? 
What message exactly?
Can we format it in a QA for everyone?

Thanks
Palo


-Original Message-
From: William Gathoye will...@gathoye.be
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Please tweet about Hybrid PDF +
several
Twitter account managers
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 16:46:17 +0200


Hi guys.

I'm back [1].

Since the exam period started a few weeks ago, I see a lot of students
complaining on social networks about the eternal DOCX/ODF format
interroperability problem. Indeed, students (I'm still one) usually
share course summaries between them. One of their solution would be to
use Hybrid PDF [2]. It's unfortunate that community managers haven't
tweeted about it.

I know Charles is still the main @tdforg and @libreoffice maintainer,
and @asklibreoffice has a new maintainer since a few months [3].
Sometimes it can become rather difficult to manage all social networks.

As explained in my previous mail, I follow the LibO community since
the beginning, read most ML messages, and I sometimes tweet myself
about LibO [4]. I'm able to put some tweets in the name of
LibreOffice. If you need me, I'm there.

I'm not asking to become a full time community manager, but be part of
the team. AFAIK, Twitter doesn't still allow to have several
maintainers for a corporate account. In that usecase, only one email
address is allowed.

I don't know how you are managing such a limitation, but having
several community managers on a single Twitter account is possible. It
would be nice to have a kind of mailing list, Twitter community
managers will subscribe. In that way, all community managers will
receive a notification and not only the one manager like it currently
is.


Regards,


[1]
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/wget-is-back-Membership-committee-application-td4111729.html
[2]
http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2012/03/the-magic-of-editable-pdfs/index.htm
[3]
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Volunteer-to-maintain-AskLibreOffice-twitter-account-td4105358.html
[4] @willubuntu on Twitter (yes, I'm still waiting an answer from
Twitter officials to get the registered but unused @wget account).



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Conference 2014 on website slide banner

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le Sun, 01 Jun 2014 07:53:37 -0400,
Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit :

 Just wondering if there could be a slide added to the banner
 advertising our upcoming LibreOffice Conference 2014?
 
 My suggestion would be to add a slide to the LibreOffice landing
 page[1] and also add one on the Events section[2].
 
 ALSO, I would like to add a big thanks to whomever is organizing the 
 Accommodations page[3]! The extensive list of accommodation locales 
 and information is impressive! It would be nice if this kind of
 strategy were used in our advertised conferences. Really useful for
 planning purposes!


Yes indeed. For the banner on the website, the events section is indeed
the obvious place. For the homepage we should avoid making a sloppy job
with it, but let's see.. Do we have a banner ready for the web or
should we make one?

Thanks,

Charles.

 
 Cheers,
 
 Marc
 
 [1] http://www.LibreOffice.org
 [2] http://www.libreoffice.org/events/
 [3] https://conference.libreoffice.org/2014/accommodation/
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Events: Upcoming events in Japan

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le Fri, 30 May 2014 17:11:16 -0400,
Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit :

 Le 2014-05-29 13:51, Naruhiko Ogasawara a écrit :
  Hi,
 
  I'm very sorry, I totally forgot to I mentioned several
  events which attends Japanese LibreOffice members,
  such as GNOME.Asia summit[1]  finished last weekend
 
 
  Anyway, we now preparing a event names
  LibreOffice mini Conference 2014 Tokyo/Japan,
  and I add it to event wiki[2] and create new page about
  this event[3].
 
  Please add it to official calrendar.
 
  --
  LibreOffice mini Conference 2014 Tokyo/Japan
  place: Japan, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo
  date: 2014-06-07
  contact: Naruhiko Ogasawara (naru...@gmail.com)
  --
 
  [1] http://2014.gnome.asia/
  [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events#Asia
  [3] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/LibOCon_mini_JP
 
 
  Thanks,
 
 
 Done. Could you have a look to see if the event needs any corrections
 or if you would like to add to the description on the calendar?[1]
 
 BTW ... how did the Gnome summit go? Did you get a lot of visitors at 
 the booth? Any photos?


Yes, that would be useful. That reminds me that we should conduct an
interview of the Japanese team members! :-)

Best,

Charles.

 
 Marc
 
 [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/EventsCalendar
 



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] A report on LibreOffice India community Ideation meet up - Marketing event

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Chandrakant, all,


Le 21.05.2014 10:34, chandrakant dhutadmal a écrit :

Hi Charles.

* set up of an Indian mailing list for marketing and advocacy (do you
want it? Do you need one?)

- Yes. It would be better to have a India specific marketing mailing
list. Kindly arrange to add Rajesh Ranjan, Chandrakant Dhutadmal and
Prof. Kannan as the administrator of the mailing list.



Done, you should have received a message today.



* I need to get more familiar about the Ambassadors Programme from
Fedora, and it needs to be adapted for LibreOffice (also, we need a
bit of input from the board of directors): Action Item for Charles.


- You may update us when you discuss this matter with the board of
directors. Having Ambassador kind of program will entrust more
responsibility on the part of community members and will also give
them the sense of pride being Ambassador of the product.  :)



based on early talk and also on what's existing inside the LibreOffice 
project, we see the growth of project memberships to be more useful and 
more inline with how we work:
http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/statutes/  (see §10, board 
of trustees)
and: 
http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/application-for-tdf-community-membership/


While Ambassadors as described in Fedora are not the same, we have been 
historically reluctant to award titles with little or no consideration 
of actual achievements or contribution; but we feel being a member of 
the foundation  itself is a badge worth having that comes with actual 
rights and demonstrates active involvement.





* Question: do you foresee the need at some point to set up a
dedicated NGO for these operations or is one of your agencies carrying
the administrative workload?


- We will discuss this point within community members to come to a
consensus. Give us some time to respond on this point.



Let me know if you made some progress on this, otherwise let's talk on 
the new Indian list.


Best,

Charles.



Regards,
Chandrakant Dhutadmal
C-DAC, Pune , India.


On Monday, May 19, 2014 3:44 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:



Chandrakant,

Waow, impressive news and events. May I suggest a follow-up from my 
side

and a couple of ideas.

* set up of an Indian mailing list for marketing and advocacy (do you
want it? Do you need one?)
* I need to get more familiar about the Ambassadors Programme from
Fedora, and it needs to be adapted for LibreOffice (also, we need a bit
of input from the board of directors): Action Item for Charles.
* Question: do you foresee the need at some point to set up a dedicated
NGO for these operations or is one of your agencies carrying the
administrative workload?

Please let me know, and thank you so much for this brilliant meeting.
And thanks be given to Red Hat!

Best,

Charles.



Le 19.05.2014 11:18, chandrakant dhutadmal a écrit :

A report on LibreOffice India Community Ideation Meet-Up

 Date of the meet: 16-MAY-2014
   Time:
03.00 P.M.-05.00 P.M. IST.

Venue: Red
Hat Office, Tower 10, Magarpatta City, Pune, India.


irc@freenode:
libreoffice

   event
hashtag: #libreofficeindia



Background

LibreOffice is one of the flagship products of a movement called
'FOSS'. It is one of the best office application suite which is
available free of cost for most of the platforms and in many languages
across the world. The application is useful for everyone from a
student to a researcher and across various domains. Rajesh Ranjan and
Chandrakant Dhutadmal were in a discussion for quite some time about
the promotion and proliferation of this beautiful product and were not
quite sure about the reach of this product in India. Hence, we had
started a thread on marketing list of LibreOffice. After discussions
with Charles-H. Schulz and Prof. Kannan from IIT Mumbai, we thought of
having an Ideation meet up in India to discuss the current state of
penetration of LibreOffice in India and how to increase the reach with
the help of the Community.

Agenda of the meetup

1. Get to know each other
2. Introduction about LibreOffice marketing movement in India
3. Raise brand awareness on LibreOffice in India
4. How to attract volunteers to contribute to LibreOffice
5. Plan of Action


1. Get to know each other

Initially we thought the response to this event would be poor as it
was planned on a short notice and also with small budget, but there
were around 14 people face-to-face and one online who participated in
the event. Thanks to Red Hat for hosting this event. We all got to
know each other as well as the areas of interest where the
participants could contribute. The members were from literally all
aspects of LibreOffice community Viz

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Improving LibreOffice download numbers on download sites

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Jay,

AFAICT LibreOffice is already listed there.  The question being then: what can 
we do to grow our brand awareness?

That is what we try to do in various waysn we do have contacts with other sites 
though,  not with them. What do you suggest?  Should we talk to download.com ? 
I think their listing reflects the brand awareness of their users more than 
their own.

Cheers,

Charles. 

On 25 mai 2014 08:26:10 CEST, Jay Philips philip...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Jean-Francois,

Yes i do agree with you that libO should never link to such website
that
would repackage libO, which download.com and filehippo.com
(softpedia.com as well) do not do. On these sites, OpenOffice and
Kingsoft Office are ranked higher than LibO.

Jay Philips

On 05/25/2014 09:45 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
 Jay,

 Le 25/05/2014 04:52, Jay Philips a écrit :
 I think the marketing team should come up with a strategy improve
 libreoffice's popularity on download sites like download.com and
 filehippo.com, as many users discover new software from sites like
this.
 I've seen some software makers direct downloads of their software to
 such sites to increase its popularity.

 The problem I see with such thirdparty websites (at least here in
 France) is that they often repackage the software they offer for
 download. The repackaging unfortunately adds some unwanted goodies,
 such as IE toolbars or Firefox addons. If the user starts the install
in
 automatic mode (almost all do), these things are silently installed
and
 suddenly the user PC becomes cluttered with what I consider
virus-like
 items.

 As a hotline employee, I very often get questions about the PCs being
 suddenly very slow or some unwanted websites opening when
starting IE.

 So, unless these sites change their way of promoting software, I
 wouldn't go this route at all.

 YMMV


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] A report on LibreOffice India community Ideation meet up - Marketing event

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Chandrakant, 

On 21 mai 2014 10:34:23 CEST, chandrakant dhutadmal cpdhutad...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
Hi Charles.

* set up of an Indian mailing list for marketing and advocacy (do you 
want it? Do you need one?)

- Yes. It would be better to have a India specific marketing mailing
list. Kindly arrange to add Rajesh Ranjan, Chandrakant Dhutadmal and
Prof. Kannan as the administrator of the mailing list. 

I will file a task on RedMine asap.



* I need to get more familiar about the Ambassadors Programme from
Fedora, and it needs to be adapted for LibreOffice (also, we need a bit
of input from the board of directors): Action Item for Charles.


- You may update us when you discuss this matter with the board of
directors. Having Ambassador kind of program will entrust more
responsibility on the part of community members and will also give them
the sense of pride being Ambassador of the product.  :)

Yes indeed..



* Question: do you foresee the need at some point to set up a dedicated
NGO for these operations or is one of your agencies carrying the
administrative workload?


- We will discuss this point within community members to come to a
consensus. Give us some time to respond on this point.


Thank you again for all this work and let's keep the ball rolling!

Charles. 

Regards,
Chandrakant Dhutadmal
C-DAC, Pune , India.


On Monday, May 19, 2014 3:44 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 


Chandrakant,

Waow, impressive news and events. May I suggest a follow-up from my
side 
and a couple of ideas.

* set up of an Indian mailing list for marketing and advocacy (do you 
want it? Do you need one?)
* I need to get more familiar about the Ambassadors Programme from 
Fedora, and it needs to be adapted for LibreOffice (also, we need a bit

of input from the board of directors): Action Item for Charles.
* Question: do you foresee the need at some point to set up a dedicated

NGO for these operations or is one of your agencies carrying the 
administrative workload?

Please let me know, and thank you so much for this brilliant meeting. 
And thanks be given to Red Hat!

Best,

Charles.



Le 19.05.2014 11:18, chandrakant dhutadmal a écrit :
 A report on LibreOffice India Community Ideation Meet-Up
 
  Date of the meet: 16-MAY-2014

   
Time:
 03.00 P.M.-05.00 P.M. IST.
 
 Venue:
Red
 Hat Office, Tower 10, Magarpatta City, Pune, India.
 

   
 irc@freenode:
 libreoffice
 

   event
 hashtag: #libreofficeindia
 
 
 
 Background
 
 LibreOffice is one of the flagship products of a movement called
 'FOSS'. It is one of the best office application suite which is
 available free of cost for most of the platforms and in many
languages
 across the world. The application is useful for everyone from a
 student to a researcher and across various domains. Rajesh Ranjan and
 Chandrakant Dhutadmal were in a discussion for quite some time about
 the promotion and proliferation of this beautiful product and were
not
 quite sure about the reach of this product in India. Hence, we had
 started a thread on marketing list of LibreOffice. After discussions
 with Charles-H. Schulz and Prof. Kannan from IIT Mumbai, we thought
of
 having an Ideation meet up in India to discuss the current state of
 penetration of LibreOffice in India and how to increase the reach
with
 the help of the Community.
 
 Agenda of the meetup
 
 1. Get to know each other
 2. Introduction about LibreOffice marketing movement in India
 3. Raise brand awareness on LibreOffice in India
 4. How to attract volunteers to contribute to LibreOffice
 5. Plan of Action
 
 
 1. Get to know each other
 
 Initially we thought the response to this event would be poor as it
 was planned on a short notice and also with small budget, but there
 were around 14 people face-to-face and one online who participated in
 the event. Thanks to Red Hat for hosting this event. We all got to
 know each other as well as the areas of interest where the
 participants could contribute. The members were from literally all
 aspects of LibreOffice community Viz. Development, Localization,
 Marketing, Testing and Documentation. Hence we can expect good
 contribution from these members in future. Participants of the events
 : Rajesh Ranjan, Chandrakant Dhutadmal, Keral Patel Anish Patil,
 Krishna Babu, Ankit Patel, Shankar Prasad, Shantha Kumar, Saibal,
 Shubhra Joshi, Sangeeta Kumari, Vishakha Dhutadmal, Ani Peter, and
 Manoj Giri. We discussed the agenda and background of the event
 through one small presetation [1].  
 
 2. Introduction about LibreOffice marketing movement in India
 
 By the time we met for the discussion, we knew that though
LibreOffice
 is being used by many in India

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] A report on LibreOffice India community Ideation meet up - Marketing event

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le 22.05.2014 09:01, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :

Hello Chandrakant,

On 21 mai 2014 10:34:23 CEST, chandrakant dhutadmal
cpdhutad...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi Charles.

* set up of an Indian mailing list for marketing and advocacy (do you
want it? Do you need one?)

- Yes. It would be better to have a India specific marketing mailing
list. Kindly arrange to add Rajesh Ranjan, Chandrakant Dhutadmal and
Prof. Kannan as the administrator of the mailing list.


I will file a task on RedMine asap.



I've opened on here: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/422

You may consider registering to our RedMine system.

Best,

Charles.



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] A report on LibreOffice India community Ideation meet up - Marketing event

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Chandrakant,

Waow, impressive news and events. May I suggest a follow-up from my side 
and a couple of ideas.


* set up of an Indian mailing list for marketing and advocacy (do you 
want it? Do you need one?)
* I need to get more familiar about the Ambassadors Programme from 
Fedora, and it needs to be adapted for LibreOffice (also, we need a bit 
of input from the board of directors): Action Item for Charles.
* Question: do you foresee the need at some point to set up a dedicated 
NGO for these operations or is one of your agencies carrying the 
administrative workload?


Please let me know, and thank you so much for this brilliant meeting. 
And thanks be given to Red Hat!


Best,

Charles.


Le 19.05.2014 11:18, chandrakant dhutadmal a écrit :

A report on LibreOffice India Community Ideation Meet-Up

 Date of the meet: 16-MAY-2014
   Time:
03.00 P.M.-05.00 P.M. IST.

Venue: Red
Hat Office, Tower 10, Magarpatta City, Pune, India.


irc@freenode:
libreoffice

   event
hashtag: #libreofficeindia



Background

LibreOffice is one of the flagship products of a movement called
'FOSS'. It is one of the best office application suite which is
available free of cost for most of the platforms and in many languages
across the world. The application is useful for everyone from a
student to a researcher and across various domains. Rajesh Ranjan and
Chandrakant Dhutadmal were in a discussion for quite some time about
the promotion and proliferation of this beautiful product and were not
quite sure about the reach of this product in India. Hence, we had
started a thread on marketing list of LibreOffice. After discussions
with Charles-H. Schulz and Prof. Kannan from IIT Mumbai, we thought of
having an Ideation meet up in India to discuss the current state of
penetration of LibreOffice in India and how to increase the reach with
the help of the Community.

Agenda of the meetup

1. Get to know each other
2. Introduction about LibreOffice marketing movement in India
3. Raise brand awareness on LibreOffice in India
4. How to attract volunteers to contribute to LibreOffice
5. Plan of Action


1. Get to know each other

Initially we thought the response to this event would be poor as it
was planned on a short notice and also with small budget, but there
were around 14 people face-to-face and one online who participated in
the event. Thanks to Red Hat for hosting this event. We all got to
know each other as well as the areas of interest where the
participants could contribute. The members were from literally all
aspects of LibreOffice community Viz. Development, Localization,
Marketing, Testing and Documentation. Hence we can expect good
contribution from these members in future. Participants of the events
: Rajesh Ranjan, Chandrakant Dhutadmal, Keral Patel Anish Patil,
Krishna Babu, Ankit Patel, Shankar Prasad, Shantha Kumar, Saibal,
Shubhra Joshi, Sangeeta Kumari, Vishakha Dhutadmal, Ani Peter, and
Manoj Giri. We discussed the agenda and background of the event
through one small presetation [1].  

2. Introduction about LibreOffice marketing movement in India

By the time we met for the discussion, we knew that though LibreOffice
is being used by many in India, the penetration level is too low.
There are efforts done by individual organizations like C-DAC [2],
RedHat [3] and IIT Mumbai [4] on individual basis, but there is no
collaborative effort in this direction. C-DAC has been involved in
training (face-to-face) various Govt. offices and educational
institutions on how to use LibreOffice since quite some time now.
Prof. Kannan and his team has also put good efforts in terms of
creating large number of self-instructional audio video tutorials on
LibreOffice, in English (about 60), and with audio dubbed into many
Indian languages (a total of about 500) [5], SELF workshops on
LibreOffice and to a lesser extent on Linux, Tamil Nadu Govt switching
over to BOSS[6] and  some more offices are switching to Fedora and
other distributions which is good for LibreOffice. Prof. Kannan’s team
is also trying to come up
 with print edition of LibreOffice Manuals (500 copies) to promote
LibreOffice in colleges, who need a printed book for the software to
be included in their curriculum. 

Having localized version of LibreOffice is important from promotion
point of view. Currently, there are as many as 16 Indian languages
where Localization teams exist[7].  Chandrakant Dhutadmal has already
requested to create new teams for all those Indian languages that are
currently not present.


3. Raise brand awareness on LibreOffice in India

Discussion amongst the members present on how to raise the brand
awareness in India took place. Following are the point in nutshell