Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thanks for the support of the LO NA-DVD .iso file download
On 07/20/2015 11:41 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Charles, *, On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Le 20 juillet 2015 17:21:11 GMT+02:00, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit : Le 2015-07-20 08:39, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit : Does this prevent you from uploading to our servers rather than the SF servers? I seem to recall that you had some issues with uploading to our servers. Tim just didn't want to prepare the image on the server directly, saving him his slow upload and also the need for distributing separately. If people don't want to use the infra, we won't force them. I wonder where the German DVD is uploaded? I thought it was uploaded to our servers. The German DVD is (or better was, as it is discontinued in its dvd/cd media form) prepared on the server directly. Exported from the CMS (i.e the UI people get when they insert the CD), etc. Then it's just moved to the mirror directory and syncing is triggered → distributed to the mirror-network. ciao Christian In the beginning months of the CMS, I tried its interface and abilities, but I have Browser issues where my editing via a browser seemed to never work out. My current editing process, locally, is quite fast, once I have all the file needed. The CMS editing process, to me, was just not working for me. Until I make a new design for the html files, for most part, all I have to do is use a simple find/replace for change over the file names from the old version name to the newly downloaded one. Then there are a few other edits to the html files, plus the creation of the DVD label files. The whole editing process, less the downloading of the 90+ install and pack files, takes about an hour or two. That is if I have the ability to sit down at a computer for the whole process in one go. Yes, I has to download the files first, but my download speed is a lot faster than my upload. 9-10 hours to upload a DVD, while it tales 20-40 minutes to download the same file. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thanks for the support of the LO NA-DVD .iso file download
On 07/19/2015 02:17 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Tim, Le 2015-07-18 07:57, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit : snip YES, it would be great to have the ISO file uploaded to a TDF server. If there was another free service, such as SF, for a free repository for files as large as a DVD, i.e. 3.7 to 4.0 gig in size, I would like to know. My hosting service does not allow such file sizes and no repository functioning within its service contract. My only issue for uploading the ISO file[s] is the fact that my upload speed for my Internet access is slow, where it can take 10 hours +/- to upload and my web access is almost nonexistent while the uploading is going on - i.e. do it at night with no monitoring for connection and/or system issues. Does this prevent you from uploading to our servers rather than the SF servers? I seem to recall that you had some issues with uploading to our servers. Marc I went to SF when the new design of the LO download page system changed to where it pointed to my web page instead to the ISO version on the server. Then there was some issues with the process of uploading to one server, then someone had to move it to a different one or a different folder setup one that server. Depending on how busy the assigned admin was, it could take days or weeks for the file to be placed onto the mirrors when the push to mirrors cycle came. For SF, I knew that within an hour, or less, my ISO file[s] would be ready for downloading. Yes, sometimes it seems that I/users could use a better option then what SF is providing right now, with the last downtime, but there seems to be no other free place where developers could place/host their project for free. That really is true for files the size of a DVD ISO file. They are looking into the possibility of a return of having a place for DVD developers to have their work hosted on the server system and have a place within the download page[s] for a DVD ISO file to show up, or change the existing page to show the TDF hosted DVD files. We will see how that goes, in the future - near or not so near. With the several day down time of parts of SF system, I have had no downloads of the ISO file after the 15th. At that point I had 105 downloads from SF of my 4.4.4 version of the LO NA-DVD .iso file. [LibreOffice North American Community DVD project's 4.4.4 DVD .iso file] On the 8th, I had 30 downloads listed in one day. This shows that there are some users that still want the NA-DVD project to continue. So I will continue it, as I can, when I can, how I can. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thanks for the support of the LO NA-DVD .iso file download
Hi Tim Le 2015-07-20 08:39, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit : Does this prevent you from uploading to our servers rather than the SF servers? I seem to recall that you had some issues with uploading to our servers. Marc I went to SF when the new design of the LO download page system changed to where it pointed to my web page instead to the ISO version on the server. Then there was some issues with the process of uploading to one server, then someone had to move it to a different one or a different folder setup one that server. Depending on how busy the assigned admin was, it could take days or weeks for the file to be placed onto the mirrors when the push to mirrors cycle came. For SF, I knew that within an hour, or less, my ISO file[s] would be ready for downloading. Yes, sometimes it seems that I/users could use a better option then what SF is providing right now, with the last downtime, but there seems to be no other free place where developers could place/host their project for free. That really is true for files the size of a DVD ISO file. They are looking into the possibility of a return of having a place for DVD developers to have their work hosted on the server system and have a place within the download page[s] for a DVD ISO file to show up, or change the existing page to show the TDF hosted DVD files. We will see how that goes, in the future - near or not so near. With the several day down time of parts of SF system, I have had no downloads of the ISO file after the 15th. At that point I had 105 downloads from SF of my 4.4.4 version of the LO NA-DVD .iso file. [LibreOffice North American Community DVD project's 4.4.4 DVD .iso file] On the 8th, I had 30 downloads listed in one day. This shows that there are some users that still want the NA-DVD project to continue. So I will continue it, as I can, when I can, how I can. Thanks for the answer. I wonder where the German DVD is uploaded? I thought it was uploaded to our servers. Perhaps Charles could look into this? Is the German DVD being reposited on the TDF/LibreOffice servers? IMO you serve quite an important part of the LibreOffice distribution network. Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thanks for the support of the LO NA-DVD .iso file download
Hi Charles, *, On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Le 20 juillet 2015 17:21:11 GMT+02:00, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com a écrit : Le 2015-07-20 08:39, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit : Does this prevent you from uploading to our servers rather than the SF servers? I seem to recall that you had some issues with uploading to our servers. Tim just didn't want to prepare the image on the server directly, saving him his slow upload and also the need for distributing separately. If people don't want to use the infra, we won't force them. I wonder where the German DVD is uploaded? I thought it was uploaded to our servers. The German DVD is (or better was, as it is discontinued in its dvd/cd media form) prepared on the server directly. Exported from the CMS (i.e the UI people get when they insert the CD), etc. Then it's just moved to the mirror directory and syncing is triggered → distributed to the mirror-network. ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thanks for the support of the LO NA-DVD .iso file download
Hi Tim, Le 2015-07-18 07:57, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit : On 07/15/2015 08:53 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2015-07-15 08:11, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Now that you're mentioning it: no. But I do think we should put this ISO somewhere on our servers first before pointing people to it. We just got out of the SourceForge sh*tstorm - Let me ping the infra team for that. Best, Charles. Thanks! Perhaps, seeing as Tim was away ill for all of those days (weeks) that he is not completely aware of the SourceForge debacle ... he may want to read up on it. Marc The SF debacle with the GIMP Windows install file should not affect an ISO file, hopefully. Since it does not depend on an executable file, such as .exe, to unpack and install the .iso file, there would not be any chance for them to insert some extras. Well, that said, the only way it would happen would be for them to recreate the .iso file itself. The only thing that is executable is the auto loading the DVD's initial HTML file to the browser, within Windows of course. I do that for ease of use for a Windows user, since the most OS downloads were/are from Windows systems. Of course, Debian based Linux systems just show an icon on the open desktop when the DVD is inserted in the reader/burner. Much prefer Linux's security, and free software, over Windows for most of my needs. YES, it would be great to have the ISO file uploaded to a TDF server. If there was another free service, such as SF, for a free repository for files as large as a DVD, i.e. 3.7 to 4.0 gig in size, I would like to know. My hosting service does not allow such file sizes and no repository functioning within its service contract. My only issue for uploading the ISO file[s] is the fact that my upload speed for my Internet access is slow, where it can take 10 hours +/- to upload and my web access is almost nonexistent while the uploading is going on - i.e. do it at night with no monitoring for connection and/or system issues. Does this prevent you from uploading to our servers rather than the SF servers? I seem to recall that you had some issues with uploading to our servers. Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thanks for the support of the LO NA-DVD .iso file download
On 07/15/2015 08:53 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2015-07-15 08:11, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Now that you're mentioning it: no. But I do think we should put this ISO somewhere on our servers first before pointing people to it. We just got out of the SourceForge sh*tstorm - Let me ping the infra team for that. Best, Charles. Thanks! Perhaps, seeing as Tim was away ill for all of those days (weeks) that he is not completely aware of the SourceForge debacle ... he may want to read up on it. Marc The SF debacle with the GIMP Windows install file should not affect an ISO file, hopefully. Since it does not depend on an executable file, such as .exe, to unpack and install the .iso file, there would not be any chance for them to insert some extras. Well, that said, the only way it would happen would be for them to recreate the .iso file itself. The only thing that is executable is the auto loading the DVD's initial HTML file to the browser, within Windows of course. I do that for ease of use for a Windows user, since the most OS downloads were/are from Windows systems. Of course, Debian based Linux systems just show an icon on the open desktop when the DVD is inserted in the reader/burner. Much prefer Linux's security, and free software, over Windows for most of my needs. YES, it would be great to have the ISO file uploaded to a TDF server. If there was another free service, such as SF, for a free repository for files as large as a DVD, i.e. 3.7 to 4.0 gig in size, I would like to know. My hosting service does not allow such file sizes and no repository functioning within its service contract. My only issue for uploading the ISO file[s] is the fact that my upload speed for my Internet access is slow, where it can take 10 hours +/- to upload and my web access is almost nonexistent while the uploading is going on - i.e. do it at night with no monitoring for connection and/or system issues. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thanks for the support of the LO NA-DVD .iso file download
On 07/15/2015 08:11 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le 15.07.2015 12:24, Marc Paré a écrit : Hi Tim, Le 2015-07-14 10:17, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit : Since July 8th, when the ISO file for my LibreOffice NA-DVD [English] when online, I have had 90 downloads. It had been a while, due to hardware and health issues, since I was able to upload an ISO file. These numbers tell me that there are people out there that want my English DVD available for download. So here is the break down of the Countries where the system is located and the OS of the system that has downloaded it. Top OS is Windows - 73% Top Country is the USA - 26% [hopefully the HTML table works in this post] CountryLinuxMacintoshUnknownWindows Total 1. United States 17% 0% 4% 79% 24 2. Japan 0% 0% 0% 100% 17 3. Germany 18% 0% 45% 36% 11 4. Russia 100% 0% 0% 0% 11 5. Italy 0% 0% 0% 100% 8 6. Canada 0% 0% 0% 100% 3 7. Portugal 0% 0% 0% 100% 2 8. Poland 0% 0% 0% 100% 2 9. United Kingdom 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 10. Israel 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 11. Australia 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 12. Malaysia 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 13. Denmark 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 14. South Africa 0% 100% 0% 0% 1 15. Mexico 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 16. France 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 17. Morocco 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 18. Thailand 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 19. Argentina 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 20. Hong Kong 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 90 Nice stats and congratulations! And most of all, thanks for taking care of creating the DVD. It looks like the US is still the largest zone where a DVD is needed. Although, if we were to market the DVD a little more aggressively, we may find that the DVD may be popular in other zones. Has the DVD availability been announced on the LibreOffice blog/FB/Twitter? Now that you're mentioning it: no. But I do think we should put this ISO somewhere on our servers first before pointing people to it. We just got out of the SourceForge sh*tstorm - Let me ping the infra team for that. Best, Charles. Since I rarely use Social Media - though I do have a FB account - I have not talked about this DVD there. One reason why the USA has the most downloads is for the fact that the DVD pages are in English. If I had the pages translated into French, Spanish, or other language, then it might have more downloads in those regions that use those languages as primary or secondary languages. ALSO. . . . If you have a faster access than I have, I have no issues for you to copy it to the LO servers. Then I would have the LO server as the first download option for the ISO file. It takes me 9+ hours to upload the ISO file, of it makes using the Net impossible when I upload the file. So I have to start it before I go to bed and not have any monitoring till morning. I then update my demo site reflecting the changes/updates. That is about 5+ hours, since most of the time is for the new installs - currently 2.4 gig for 4.4.4 installs with the added help/language packs I include. Also, I use Filezilla for ease of use for SSH uploads. Using rsync for SSH keeps telling me the servers are not available or not found, when Filezilla's SSH access works fine. [I have the SSH passcode/etc. setup in the .ssh folder] -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thanks for the support of the LO NA-DVD .iso file download
Le 15.07.2015 12:24, Marc Paré a écrit : Hi Tim, Le 2015-07-14 10:17, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit : Since July 8th, when the ISO file for my LibreOffice NA-DVD [English] when online, I have had 90 downloads. It had been a while, due to hardware and health issues, since I was able to upload an ISO file. These numbers tell me that there are people out there that want my English DVD available for download. So here is the break down of the Countries where the system is located and the OS of the system that has downloaded it. Top OS is Windows - 73% Top Country is the USA - 26% [hopefully the HTML table works in this post] CountryLinuxMacintoshUnknownWindowsTotal 1. United States 17% 0% 4% 79% 24 2. Japan 0% 0% 0% 100% 17 3. Germany 18% 0% 45% 36% 11 4. Russia 100% 0% 0% 0% 11 5. Italy 0% 0% 0% 100% 8 6. Canada 0% 0% 0% 100% 3 7. Portugal 0% 0% 0% 100% 2 8. Poland 0% 0% 0% 100% 2 9. United Kingdom 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 10. Israel 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 11. Australia 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 12. Malaysia 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 13. Denmark 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 14. South Africa 0% 100% 0% 0% 1 15. Mexico 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 16. France 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 17. Morocco 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 18. Thailand 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 19. Argentina 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 20. Hong Kong 0% 0% 0% 100% 1 90 Nice stats and congratulations! And most of all, thanks for taking care of creating the DVD. It looks like the US is still the largest zone where a DVD is needed. Although, if we were to market the DVD a little more aggressively, we may find that the DVD may be popular in other zones. Has the DVD availability been announced on the LibreOffice blog/FB/Twitter? Now that you're mentioning it: no. But I do think we should put this ISO somewhere on our servers first before pointing people to it. We just got out of the SourceForge sh*tstorm - Let me ping the infra team for that. Best, Charles. Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
