[Marxism] Virginia Senator Thanks Syrian President Bashar Al Assad for Saving the Lives of Christians

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I see this was dated April 1st of this year.
ken h


http://www.perdana4peace.org/2014/virginia-senator-thanks-syrian-president-bashar-al-assad-for-saving-the-lives-of-christians/

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[Marxism] Fwd: In wake of war, leftist 'self-hating Jews' find a voice | The Times of Israel

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A hostile but informative article.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-wake-of-war-leftist-self-hating-jews-find-a-voice/#ixzz3BcBaXJmr

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[Marxism] Fwd: IS Network - Peering into the faultlines: a response to 'New faultlines in the Middle East: ISIS in a regional context'

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http://internationalsocialistnetwork.org/index.php/ideas-and-arguments/international/war-and-imperialism/483-iraq-response

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[Marxism] Fw: APOLOGY from Australians for Palestine for using images of Syrian children

[Michael Karadjis via Marxism]

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Below is the apology from Sonja Karkar from Australians for Palestine 
for inadvertently using a picture of Syrian children gassed to death in 
their sleep last year by Assad's chemical genocide to demonstrate the 
Zionist regime's mass killing of children in Gaza.


Anyone who has seen the Australian this morning saw the horrible slander 
job done by Murdoch and the Zionist lobby against Sonja and AFP. I am 
certain that this was just an honest mistake and Sonja, an extremely 
dedicated person, had no intention of causing harm to either the 
Palestinian or Syrian people by using this image.


I am a little disappointed, because I recognised the image as wring 
immediately, told Sonja, and she responded and thanked me and said it 
had already been pointed out and a correction will be made. She 
acknowledges that the error had been pointed out in her apology and says 
that "Events overtook me and the correction email was never sent to our 
lists." Again this is entirely believable. But the damage is terrible.


There are thousands of genuine images of massacred children from Gaza to 
use. Unfortunately, the Internet has been full of images of Syrian 
children massacred by the Assad regime being posted as images of Gaza 
(or as images of ISIS killings, or killings by Syrian rebel forces). 
Whoever is doing this on this larger scale I believe are not simply 
careless, but malicious. Their intent is to cause this kind of damage. 
Anyone can make an honest mistake, like AFP's, with one image, but no 
one without malicious intent posts around dozens of pictures of 
different conflicts and pretends they are from another one. This is done 
precisely in order to trap unsuspecting activists, and the enormous 
proliferation of this garbage is the reason why it was easy for AFP to 
fall into this trap.


Anybody looking for images from Gaza needs to be on full alert and check 
any image via google images before sending it out. The proportion of 
bullshit images out there right now is sensational.


MK

From: Australians for Palestine
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:56 AM
To: Michael Karadjis
Subject: APOLOGY


APOLOGY
The Australian newspaper has made a scurrilous attempt today with the 
help of a Liberal MP Mr Luke Simpkins to suggest that Australians for 
Palestine was taking advantage of tragic child victims in Syria to blame 
Israel for atrocities committed in Gaza.


In an earlier posting (10 August) to our email lists, I inadvertently 
used an image of dead children in Syria when I was intending to show 
children killed by Israel in Gaza.  Palestinian Haitham Sabbah from the 
Sabbah Report pointed out the error.


I apologised to the handful of others who also noticed and I apologise 
to everyone else now.  Events overtook me and the correction email was 
never sent to our lists.  There was no intention to deceive as is clear 
from my immediate response to Mr Simpkins.


It was the picture that was wrong, not the report about Israel’s 
slaughter of Palestinian children.  Suffice to say that there are 
umpteen images showing life and limb ripped from the innocents in Gaza. 
They are readily available on the internet.  There is no need now to 
show them here.


Children slaughtered anywhere is cause for grief.  Most people do not 
want to see the horrific images.  However, when people are being 
bombarded as the Palestinians certainly were by Israeli bombs, we need 
to report on the outrages as best we can.


Those who wish to make mileage out of some wrong images being used 
cannot negate the realities on the ground.  They are well documented in 
the media, medical teams working in Gaza and organisations like UNRWA 
and Amnesty International, amongst others. The statistics alone speak 
for the horrors and devastation that Israel has caused.


We make no apology for reporting these crimes against a besieged and 
oppressed people.  The world must know and Israel must be held 
accountable.


Sonja Karkar
Australians for Palestine


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Re: [Marxism] A win for Gaza, for Palestine and Hamas

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On Aug 27, 2014, at 6:22 PM, John Passant via Marxism wrote:


Israel did not win. The Palestinian Authority did not win. Hamas  
did. Palestine did. Gaza?s people did.


http://enpassant.com.au/2014/08/27/a-win-for-gaza-for-palestine-and-for-hamas/


There was a king of Epirus whose name was immortalized by that sort of  
"victory!"




Shane Mage

"Thunderbolt steers all things." Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64






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[Marxism] A win for Gaza, for Palestine and Hamas

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Israel did not win. The Palestinian Authority did not win. Hamas did. Palestine 
did. Gaza?s people did. 

http://enpassant.com.au/2014/08/27/a-win-for-gaza-for-palestine-and-for-hamas/

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Re: [Marxism] Lenin’s Theory of Imperialism and the Rise of Russia as a Great Power

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Whatever value there is in this treatise, it is severely undermined by 
formulations such as this:


->Finally we have the only consistent Marxist and revolutionary current, 
the Proletarian Internationalists to which

the RCIT belongs. As Bolshevik-Communists they distinguish
themselves from the other currents in their recognition
of the imperialist character not only of the Western
powers but also of Russia and China. From this they conclude
that a consistent and intransigent approach against
all these powers, one based on the Bolshevik’s program
of “revolutionary defeatism,” is imperative for the workers’
movement.<-

Even if you believe it, you only appear foolish by stating it. I 
consider myself the world's leading Marxist comedian but would not be 
caught dead saying it. (Forget I just said that.)


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Re: [Marxism] Questions for Vijay Prashad

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On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Jon Flanders via Marxism <
marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:

In Libya, since 1987, the military has been a wreck. There’s no morale. You
> know, you could walk in and out of a base without being asked questions. In
> other words, their military was a shambles.
>

That was true on most American military bases until a few weeks before
September 11, 2001. (Cue conspiracy theorists here.)

-- 
"Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen
lytlað."

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Re: [Marxism] Questions for Vijay Prashad

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On 08/27/2014 02:04 PM, Clay Claiborne via Marxism wrote:

Does it mean to you that the state shouldn't be overthrown and that the
Qaddafi regime should have been allowed to "perfect" its Green Book based
state for at least another 60 years?

Clay


Did you listen to the interview with Vijay?

Jon Flanders


But the second reason I was opposed to U.S. andNATOforce was that by the 
time the Americans started talking about intervening, a third of Libya 
was out of Mr. Gaddafi’s hands. And I’ll give you a sense of this. If 
you traveled to Libya, Egypt and Syria prior to the Arab Spring, you 
would find something interesting. In Libya, since 1987, the military has 
been a wreck. There’s no morale. You know, you could walk in and out of 
a base without being asked questions. In other words, their military was 
a shambles. When Gaddafi’s son visited Benghazi a week into the 
rebellion, he came running back to Tripoli and said, you know, "Papa, 
it’s over. We’ve lost Benghazi." You know, they essentially ceded that 
part of the country. Libya was going—Gaddafi’s rule was going to fall. 
There was no need forNATOintervention. In Egypt, the military is very 
powerful, but you will find something interesting. The soldiers have 
dark skin compared to the other Egyptians. They are recruited from upper 
Egypt. They are very disciplined, but they are not exactly with high 
morale. In Syria, the military has very high morale. You know, it has 
often been amazing to me. I keep wondering, why did the Turks and others 
believe that the Syrian regime was going to fall like the Libyan regime? 
They have completely different military structures, and the morale is 
completely different.


So, the second reason I opposed intervention in Libya was it was 
inevitable that Gaddafi was going to lose power. Let the process take 
its own way. Let them fight a little bit. Let there be a political 
dialogue within the rebellion. Let them create alternative structures of 
power. If you just give the Libyan people a destroyed country, how are 
they going to build a future? And that was the real danger of aerial 
bombardment of the style the Americans conduct. They level countries and 
then tell people, "Well, create a democracy." It doesn’t work like that. 
If the Libyans had been given three, four, eight months to fight against 
Gaddafi, already much weakened, I think a different outcome might have 
been possible.



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[Marxism] Questions for Vijay Prashad

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On Democracy Now you say:

>
> The first major leader of the National Transitional Council, Mr. Mahmoud
> Jibril, was the principal financial consultant for the then-emir of Qatar’s
> second wife, Sheikha Mozah. So, these people didn’t have a mass base. They
> flew in on a NATO aircraft,
>

Sheikha Mozah spent her youth in Bengazi. Among other things Mahmoud Jibril
work as a financial consultant in a number of Arab countries. For how long
did he manage Sheikha Mozah's financial assets?

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Jibril

>
> From 2007 to early 2011, he served in the Gaddafi regime as head of the
> National Planning Council of Libya and of the National Economic Development
> Board of Libya (NEDB)


He joined the NTC on March 5, 2011 and was its executive chair till Oct 23,
2011. So when did he fly in on a NATO aircraft? Who else do you say flew in
on NATO aircraft. Please provide verifiable details.

Also you take a position on the state that I find very
counter-revolutionary even while it is true:

What to say about Libya? I mean, again, you know, it’s the slogan that I’ve
> been trying to promote, which is, you can build a state—it takes you a
> hundred years; you destroy it in an afternoon.


Actually Qaddafi was able to build a very corrupt, very brutal fascist
state that settled tribal disputes with helicopter gunships, and stranded
ten of thousand of African immigrates in the dessert to die, in less than
40 years, but the point is taken. It is much easier to destroy than to
build in general and this also applies to the state. To me, that means
maybe we should cut the Libyan revolution some slack if they don't have a
well formed state and everything hunky-dory after 3 years. To me it means
that the real work of revolution just begins once the old state has been
overthrown.

Does it mean to you that the state shouldn't be overthrown and that the
Qaddafi regime should have been allowed to "perfect" its Green Book based
state for at least another 60 years?

Clay

Clay Claiborne, Director
Vietnam: American Holocaust 
Linux Beach Productions
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[Marxism] Alaa Abdel Fattah, Egyptian Revolutionary, Announces Hunger Strike

[A.R. G via Marxism]

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http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/19014/an-open-letter

Although it was written quite a bit earlier (18 August), it did not appear
on Jadaliyya until today.

- Amith

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Re: [Marxism] Vijay Prashad's mistranslation

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Someone called Anas writes to let me know that Jabhat an-Nusra should be 
translated as “Victory” and not "Support” Front.

Seems like Clay Clairborne agrees that I have made an error.

The word in question is Nusra. Some of you might know the name Nusrat, meaning 
Aid or Assistance. Not Victory.

Some people do call JaN the Victory Front, but that seems less literal and more 
elegiac.

Pick your translation. The point remains. It was set up, as I learned first 
hand from JaN, as the “support front” by the Islamic State of Iraq in January 
2012 to fight in Syria.

Very best, Vijay.



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(310) 581-1536

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--

Vijay Prashad
George and Martha Kellner Chair of South Asian History
Professor, International Studies.

Columnist, Frontline (Chennai, India).


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[Marxism] let's call it what it is - a growing Israeli fascism

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my apologies if this has already been posted here -

http://forward.com/articles/204563/israeli-teens-gripped-by-virulent-racism/

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Re: [Marxism] Vijay Prashad's mistranslation

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Anyone setting out to correct Vijay Prashad really has it work cut out for
himself.

Clay Claiborne, Director
Vietnam: American Holocaust 
Linux Beach Productions
Venice, CA 90291
(310) 581-1536

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[Marxism] Fwd: Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov: Politics, Praxis & Personality | Head-Fixin'

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Review of Paul LeBlanc's "Unfinished Leninism".

http://headfixing.wordpress.com/2014/07/01/vladimir-ilyich-ulyanov-politics-praxis-personality/

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[Marxism] Fwd: US giving Syria intelligence on jihadists, sources say - Yahoo News

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Beirut (AFP) - The United States has begun reconnaissance flights over 
Syria and is sharing intelligence about jihadist deployments with 
Damascus through Iraqi and Russian channels, sources told AFP on Tuesday.


"The cooperation has already begun and the United States is giving 
Damascus information via Baghdad and Moscow," one source close to the 
issue said on condition of anonymity.


full: 
http://news.yahoo.com/us-giving-syria-intelligence-jihadists-sources-145609735.html


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